Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Saravan]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Half the classes, when also accounting for the sub-classes, are carbon-copies of each other with one minor detail changed that typically amounts to a different passive variable. This is then taken as gospel of the vAriEtY the game offers in builds. It's like a shitty NFT.

Still better than BG III and magic missile bots

"My shit is still shinier than this shit" is not an argument.

 

[Sunri]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Just like classics BG/IWD/Arcanum that's why Pathfinder is true spiritual successor.

Arcanum is tb game, fag.

No i don't think it is

 

[rusty_shackleford]

arcanum is a turn-based game

 

[Sunri]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Half the classes, when also accounting for the sub-classes, are carbon-copies of each other with one minor detail changed that typically amounts to a different passive variable. This is then taken as gospel of the vAriEtY the game offers in builds. It's like a shitty NFT.

Still better than BG III and magic missile bots

"My shit is still shinier than this shit" is not an argument.

It is when it's the best what industry has to offer right now.

 

[Reinhardt]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Half the classes, when also accounting for the sub-classes, are carbon-copies of each other with one minor detail changed that typically amounts to a different passive variable. This is then taken as gospel of the vAriEtY the game offers in builds. It's like a shitty NFT.

Still better than BG III and magic missile bots

"My shit is still shinier than this shit" is not an argument.

It is when it's the best what industry has to offer right now.

Running around the table?

 

[Cryomancer]

in tb?

Since OwlCat took away the option to speed up animations 10x(in WoTR the limit is 3x), I rarely play in TB.

You mean the trivial one imp encounter that takes as long as a large encounter yet has no difficulty whatsoever? Then you have to spends quite a bit of time going through those trivial encounters until you're finally allowed out of the tutorial to play the game?

Yep. The encounters aren't hard, are just tedious. Part is due Larian's fault and part due WoTC 5E fault. Enemies like Intellect Devourer in 3.5E are CR 7. In 5E they are CR 3. And in BG3 a enemy where you at level 1 alone face two at the same time and win with no problem.

Swen would never put 4E stuff into the game

Swen criticized spell slots and spell levels many times and even Paizo, a company which got his success by not following 4E footsteeps decided to ... Make PF2e simular to D&D 4E.

one minor detail changed

No, completely wrong. Lets look to the last 3 Arcanist subclasses. One of then give spontaneous healing for a INT based arcane caster. Other changes his spellbook into a druid "spellbook", allowing him to use druid spells + arcane exploits unique for his class. Phantasmal Mage is focused on illusion, is a gnome only subclass and you can get not only very hard to resist DC's but also an Azata Phantasmal Mage can force enemies to do 4 saves or die to phantasmal killer and this in mid levels. In high levels, he can cast two Weird spells, each one requiring 4 saves. And there are a wand which allow him to bypass immunities. And classes are merely one layer of customization. Having the same companion focused his feats and mythic feats in a different weapon considering how powerful magical weapons are in the game, can make him play completely different. Critical focused builds in WoTR are amazing. At least according to my experience.

No i don't think it is

Arcanum can be ""played"" in Rt but RT in Arcanum is 100% broken. Harm + Real time wins almost every encounter, except vs archers that can fire his bows faster than a MG 42 in real time.

It is when it's the best what industry has to offer right now.

Check KoTC2. Pink Eye was a massive owlcat fanboy and now he said that he prefers KoTC2 over it. I din't played yet but soon as it launches in steam/gog I will check. I loved kotc1.

 

[underground nymph]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

 

[AwesomeButton]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Just like classics BG/IWD/Arcanum that's why Pathfinder is true spiritual successor.

You just outed yourself as someone who didn't play Arcanum anywhere past the blimp crash area.

 

[Yosharian]

The whole point of 5E is to streamline the system for TABLETOP so that the emphasis is less on spreadsheets and more on fast-paced gaming with greater focus on role-playing

5E isn't a terrible choice for a CRPG but you better bring your fucking A-game with the story and characters because your game won't be carried much by the deep gameplay

 

[Sunri]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The whole point of 5E is to streamline the system for TABLETOP so that the emphasis is less on spreadsheets and more on fast-paced gaming with greater focus on role-playing

5E isn't a terrible choice for a CRPG but you better bring your fucking A-game with the story and characters because your game won't be carried much by the deep gameplay

D&D was always simplified compared to things like GURPS, BRP, rolemaster, etc., you dip

 

[underground nymph]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Familiar rhetoric. I may guess real timers and trannies are of the same seed.

 

[mediocrepoet]

The whole point of 5E is to streamline the system for TABLETOP so that the emphasis is less on spreadsheets and more on fast-paced gaming with greater focus on role-playing

5E isn't a terrible choice for a CRPG but you better bring your fucking A-game with the story and characters because your game won't be carried much by the deep gameplay

D&D was always simplified compared to things like GURPS, BRP, rolemaster, etc., you dip

It's not even like 5E is much simpler than any other edition. The only edition that had any sort of complexity is 3/3.5E and it's not like it was some terribly Byzantine spreadsheet system. Assuming the players aren't retarded anyway.

 

[AwesomeButton]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

 

[Sunri]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

I think you didn't read my post correctly I said that rt allows you to play the way you want, and you are not restricted by dev vision like in tb and I completed arcanum by clicking harm button

 

[rusty_shackleford]

something tells me the devs never wanted to make a realtime game but were forced to by the publisher

 

[AwesomeButton]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

I think you didn't read my post correctly I said that rt allows you to play the way you want, and you are not restricted by dev vision like in tb and I completed arcanum by clicking harm button

In other words you chose to ignore the combat mechanics of an RPG for most of the time, yet you come to argue if it's an RT or a TB game?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh, someone is butthut

 

[Sunri]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

I think you didn't read my post correctly I said that rt allows you to play the way you want, and you are not restricted by dev vision like in tb and I completed arcanum by clicking harm button

In other words you chose to ignore the combat mechanics of an RPG for most of the time, yet you come to argue if it's an RT or a TB game?

Using spells equals ignoring combat mechanics, that's a nigga moment

 

[AwesomeButton]

So just Benny Hill-style kiting around the table. Many rpg! Very build!

Just like classics BG/IWD/Arcanum that's why Pathfinder is true spiritual successor.

Arcanum is tb game, fag.

No i don't think it is

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

I think you didn't read my post correctly I said that rt allows you to play the way you want, and you are not restricted by dev vision like in tb and I completed arcanum by clicking harm button

In other words you chose to ignore the combat mechanics of an RPG for most of the time, yet you come to argue if it's an RT or a TB game?

Using spells equals ignoring combat mechanics, that's a nigga moment

Here is what's a nigga moment - what are you even doing on an RPG forum?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

what are you even doing on an RPG forum?

trannies attracting trannies attracting trannies
it's going to get worse

 

[Sunri]

RT is cheese prone af. It’s hard not to cheese in BG 1 and 2. All solo playthroughs are basically an exploiting the shit out of RT
btw does anybody know of any proper mods for bg 1 and 2 that convert them into tb?

That's why rt is fun, you don't need to play the way developer wanted.

Please tell us about how you played through Arcanum in RT, "the way the developer wanted"

I think you didn't read my post correctly I said that rt allows you to play the way you want, and you are not restricted by dev vision like in tb and I completed arcanum by clicking harm button

In other words you chose to ignore the combat mechanics of an RPG for most of the time, yet you come to argue if it's an RT or a TB game?

Using spells equals ignoring combat mechanics, that's a nigga moment

Here is what's a nigga moment - what are you even doing on an RPG forum?

According to users, this is not even RPG forum but Free Speech website, and I'm having fun discussing games and other topics.

 

[AwesomeButton]

According to users, this is not even RPG forum but Free Speech website.

This is the popular conflation between "right to express an opinion" and "entitlement to be able to say any stupid shit without anyone being allowed to call me out". You will be called out, that's part of free speech too.

 

[Reinhardt]

Someone who can only run around the table arguing about rpg systems and builds...

 

[Sunri]

Someone who can only run around the table arguing about rpg systems and builds...

There were no tables in later chapters, so I had to adapt and that's part of the fun sadly in BG III there are no reason for it because magic missiles are enough to win every encounter, and they get stronger as you level up.