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Current year, comrade. Current year.

These types have been around far longer than $CurrentYear; Bioware's romance since BG2 have always had these types -- and you only need to look at how popular mary sue/waifu character mods are for BG2.
Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....
 

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Current year, comrade. Current year.

These types have been around far longer than $CurrentYear; Bioware's romance since BG2 have always had these types -- and you only need to look at how popular mary sue/waifu character mods are for BG2.
Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....

It was already in the base game in BG2, and it being in the basegame is what influenced the mod growth of it.

Even now when you go to the steam page of various cRPGs, you'll see a plethora of degenerates screaming for romances.
 

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Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....
Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Haer'Dalis and Aerie will start dating each other if the male protagonist hasn't proceeded deep in Aerie's romance route. Haer'Dalis' interference can lead to a love triangle.

Anyone who willingly takes Haer Dalis and invests himself in BG2 romance deserves getting cucked.
 

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Weird how TB purists don't like games where they constantly engage in TB combat. Too much of a good thing, perhaps? It's almost as if they want fluid and efficient combat, with the ability to take their time at any given moment to engage in tactical minutiae. Hopefully a developer will devise a solution some day in the near future.

No one likes trash mobs in any format, but if they’re there TB is usually not the fastest way to bypass

I prefer less trash fights, of course. But in case of P:K I never felt that Turn Based is slower or worse then RTwP - even for those trash fights.
 

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Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....
Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Haer'Dalis and Aerie will start dating each other if the male protagonist hasn't proceeded deep in Aerie's romance route. Haer'Dalis' interference can lead to a love triangle.

Anyone who willingly takes Haer Dalis and invests himself in BG2 romance deserves getting cucked.
Also you could always kill the little faggot lol.
 

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Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....
Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Haer'Dalis and Aerie will start dating each other if the male protagonist hasn't proceeded deep in Aerie's romance route. Haer'Dalis' interference can lead to a love triangle.

Tangentially, don't forget Keldorn's intended end for his side-quest too.

Not only does he get cucked, but you also lose the character as a result if you go through the "good" cuck ending where he sucks up to his wife.

Layers of cuckoldry.

Not sure if Gaider's fault but probably. Also, I didn't realize he came out as gay. Maybe that's why Warden wouldn't stop harassing him here, some weird tsundere love/hate relationship they had.
 

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Anyone who willingly takes Haer Dalis and invests himself in BG2 romance deserves getting cucked.
Haer'Dalis is CN, meaning working best for a Chaotic or Neutral Charname/party composition, meaning if you strictly roleplay the axis, you should be in a romance with Jaheira. Also, the dialogue(s) Jaheira has with Haer'Dalis are much more telling about his... touch-and-go approach to relationships.

Also... Haer'Dalis is *never* a bad choice. Not only he has access to thief-only high level traps, he also can equip any item, and can easily switch between tornado of death, and tank.

You really want a bad choice, look no further than Nalia. That's a bad choice. lol
 

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Yeah but no one cares about a few mods, now that crap is usually in the base game....
Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Haer'Dalis and Aerie will start dating each other if the male protagonist hasn't proceeded deep in Aerie's romance route. Haer'Dalis' interference can lead to a love triangle.

Anyone who willingly takes Haer Dalis and invests himself in BG2 romance deserves getting cucked.
Also you could should always kill the little faggot lol.
:salute:
 

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You really want a bad choice, look no further than Nalia. That's a bad choice. lol
FOR THE NEEEEDYYYY.
Seriously though, she's pretty good. If you're not a caster and want to have a good aligned party, she's top tier. But yeah, if you are doing an evil playthrough, you've got much better choices.
Plus, the keep quest was a lot of fun when low level, finding ways to cheese that boss fight was peak BG2.
 

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Seriously though, she's pretty good. If you're not a caster and want to have a good aligned party, she's top tier. But yeah, if you are doing an evil playthrough, you've got much better choices.
Plus, the keep quest was a lot of fun when low level, finding ways to cheese that boss fight was peak BG2.
To me, she's always been subpar. 17 INT, so you need to Lum her up to 18. No WIS to speak of, so you need to pot to Wish. Thank the heavens she has decent DEX, or otherwise she'd be straight abysmal.

Not to mention she has a ring slot committed, which is the number 1 sin to have among arcane casters.
 

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It also goes against the spirit of D&D. Most encounters should be meaningful and in some way contribute to the story.

I've read Gygax-penned campaigns, they're full of combat, a lot of it there just to be there/decrease your resources. This whole sparse-but-difficult-combat business is some storyteller-derived business, not grognardy at all.

Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Attempts but doesn't succeed. Aerie realizes on her own that he's no good for her. If you agree to his duel over her, she dumps you both, if you tell him you're not fighting, she chooses you.
 

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It also goes against the spirit of D&D. Most encounters should be meaningful and in some way contribute to the story.

I've read Gygax-penned campaigns, they're full of combat, a lot of it there just to be there/decrease your resources. This whole sparse-but-difficult-combat business is some storyteller-derived business, not grognardy at all.

Fun fact: BG2 is literally the only BioWare game that attempts to cuckold the player.

Attempts but doesn't succeed. Aerie realizes on her own that he's no good for her. If you agree to his duel over her, she dumps you both, if you tell him you're not fighting, she chooses you.
Wait, I remember that, if you agree to the duel, she dumps you and runs away with him. Am I becoming senile?
 
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Buried beneath feature bloat there is a fairly decent spiritual successor to Neverwinter Nights. But once you take into account that Owlcat had a gigantic boulder of work taken off their shoulders (imported ruleset, premade campaign) and they *still* managed to fuck it up, I ultimately regard PKM as a failure.
NWN? Did you play pathfinder?
 
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Kingmaker was able to capture the feel for whatever reason

Not really. Kingmaker's game feel is about as far from IE as PoE was, just in other ways.
I agree. For me the main culprit was the amount of magical items you get. Insane stuff. At about mid-game I felt like every barrel had a +2 weapon.
What BG did well (for me) is how it made the player feel successful when he'd get a good weapon or armor or spell or ability etc
In P:K you are flooded with everything.

That along with the kingdom management and the bland copy-pasted areas are what made the game mediocre for me. Fun combat though most of the time (when you are not fighting the typical filler mobs)
I agree with this. The game has way too crazy magic item loot. Since the new game will have built in modding maybe someone will make a classic stern DM version of the game and re-balance the entire thing with an old school feel. Maybe I will do it, although to do that kind of balance for the entire game would mean changing every encounter etc too..it would be a full time job almost. Would need pay-pal donations. perhaps coronavirus will lead me in this direction. lol
 

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