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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

TemplarGR

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If they're clever they are gonna license their engine for exactly that sort of thing though…

Icewind Dale III, make it happen! :grpg:

Yeah, just licence the engine and DnD rights to Sawyer and that would be a dream come true. Sadly, like Bethesda, they wil never do it, cause it will make their trash look bad in comparison. Imagine if Icewind Dale 3 overshadows DOS 1/2 and BG3, Swen couldn't handle it.
 

Robber Baron

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Swen couldn't handle it.

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If they're clever they are gonna license their engine for exactly that sort of thing though…

Icewind Dale III, make it happen! :grpg:

Yeah, just licence the engine and DnD rights to Sawyer and that would be a dream come true. Sadly, like Bethesda, they wil never do it, cause it will make their trash look bad in comparison. Imagine if Icewind Dale 3 overshadows DOS 1/2 and BG3, Swen couldn't handle it.

Imagine icewind dale 3 made in cryengine... With M$ investing a lot of money expecting to outclass P$5 exclusives...

Sadly, they will focus too much on "wide audience" and "balance" and the game will be a trash.
 

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Didn't Larian hand over their previous iteration of the Divinity engine to some studio that was making an XCOM clone?
 

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They want to become a spelljammer studio!
I think that the trailer was clear.

LOL. Imagine a spelljammer themed expansion for BG3. That would be epic. There is only one spelljammer themed game and it is fl76 level of buggyness.

But Vincke is right. Become too dependent on a third party IP is not reliable. I believe that other companies who are adapting TT games like CD Projekt red fells the same way.

PS : BG1 is a low level game, but at least doesn't start with mindflayer spelljammer ship fighting dragon riders.

PS2 : We need more adventures outside of sword coast. Imagine how cool a adventure about escaping Carceri and eventually being involved into demons VS devils conflicts or something similar. I an glad that we got a little of Feyworld on kingmaker and will get some of Abyss on WoTR.
Well the thing with wotc is: if they bring money they get freedom.

is true for the magic the gathering D&D setting books, for acquisition incorporate book , for critical role book, for stranger things etc...

if BG3 is succesful wotc will allow them of select the IP they want and maybe even making a larian D&D book.
 

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It’s not hate if it’s true.
What is truth? All I see here are some retards who call others retards. Not much of an argument can be had with something like that. And who are those "larian retards"? Everybody who said something positive about BG3 after the last gameplay reveal? I have to admit I was surprised at how warm the reception was here, considering previous gameplay impressions. I will give him this much: at the very least he is brave enough to voice is opinion, quality of said opinion aside.

It sounds like you are in the wrong place. -> click
*sigh* If you want to hit somebody at least try to hit where it hurts. I don't even know what that is. How is that relevant?
 

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What is truth? All I see here are some retards who call others retards. Not much of an argument can be had with something like that. And who are those "larian retards"? Everybody who said something positive about BG3 after the last gameplay reveal? I have to admit I was surprised at how warm the reception was here, considering previous gameplay impressions. I will give him this much: at the very least he is brave enough to voice is opinion, quality of said opinion aside.

The most funny thing is that here I an called Larian cultist by Larian haters and Larian hater by larian cultists like Swen. When BG3 was announced, i was thinking that it would be a Sword Coast Legends clone, mainly after some Vincke comments about missing, leveling and spell slots. After the first gameplay video, i become more neutral and now have positive expectations. The unique thing that i really wish to see more on the lives is more spells and items which can explore the map verticality. Low level guys fighting underdar/mindflayer can be gimmicky but i need to wait for more information before i judge(lets be real, i posted a video soloing 2 dragons as a lv14 sorc on NWN1).

I really wish to see more spells on the stream. See a caster casting fly for eg(not sure if will be in game), see a warlock using Repelling Blast in the enemy and the enemy taking fall damage. But even something which is boring in 99% of RPGs like Goblin village was cool in BG3.

Also really wish that the early access was earlier. Is not as if i have better things to do. I mean, Gyms, Shopping malls, theaters, nightclubs (...) are closed.
 

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What is truth? All I see here are some retards who call others retards. Not much of an argument can be had with something like that. And who are those "larian retards"? Everybody who said something positive about BG3 after the last gameplay reveal? I have to admit I was surprised at how warm the reception was here, considering previous gameplay impressions. I will give him this much: at the very least he is brave enough to voice is opinion, quality of said opinion aside.

The most funny thing is that here I an called Larian cultist by Larian haters and Larian hater by larian cultists like Swen.

There are no Larian "cultists". Swen is obviously a troll account. Swear to god sometimes the autism here is too much.
 

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D:OS2 is casual-friendly, true. But it also has enough stuff for the players who are actually interested in the game.

Baldur's Gate was also 'casual-friendly' (keeping in mind that players back then were much more hardcore than now), it had pretty graphics, beautifully designed areas and you could certainly make things go boom and don't give two cents about story.
And Fallout was also casual friendly.

You could just chew bubblegum and admire bloody crits in it and many players did at the time.
 

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This thread has a fun lifecycle. Whenever actual news are shown those that played BG 1+2 come out to discuss it and are generally optimistic, and when the days pass without news the band wagon riders that are just here to bitch and moan about modern video games hijack the thread again. But you are not the same without Ontopoly. His hot take are entertaining, yours are just shallow.
 

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One thing is certain: bg3 will outsell the entire IE games series (including EE versions) no matter how the game is the message will be that is a success and bioware and obsidian style will be considered pure trash (in particolar poe2).

Reddit post (“unpopolar opinion”) articles and blogs will appear everywhere explaining how terrible and pointless was rtwp and it’s return was only a matter of nostalgia, the new pathfinder games will be marketed as a turn based game with optional rtwp.

even EA will force bioware to work on a turn based RPG.
 

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One thing is certain: bg3 will outsell the entire IE games series (including EE versions) no matter how the game is the message will be that is a success and bioware and obsidian style will be considered pure trash (in particolar poe2).

Reddit post (“unpopolar opinion”) articles and blogs will appear everywhere explaining how terrible and pointless was rtwp and it’s return was only a matter of nostalgia, the new pathfinder games will be marketed as a turn based game with optional rtwp.

even EA will force bioware to work on a turn based RPG.

RTWP is inferior to turn based and can go fuck itself.

Let's See Who's More Prestigious: RPG Codex or RPGWatch!
Even the Gorgnards here agree that RTWP is a strange system that was born due to technical constraints. Its somewhat nice for the nostalgia but I take real turn based all day over rtwp.

Also if Bio returns to real turn based I might try their games again. Last Bio titles I played were Mass effect 2 and Dragon Age Origins and neither were that good.
 

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RTWP is inferior to turn based and can go fuck itself.

No, that depends a lot on the encounter design. I love to play as necromancers on Infinity Engine games. Walk around with at least a undead squad. It would just take eternities in turn based. Each animate dead on kingmaker creates D4+2 skeletons. Imagine i with 5*(D4+2) skeletons having to watch each one moving and attacking... You can't have turn based game AND extremely large scale combat. Unless you give the option to speed up the combat with a option to skip animations like Dark Sun : Shattered Lands and have concurrent turns for enemies and summons.

If you have large scale combat in a turn based game with slow animations, you have awful combat like Wizardry 8. Turn based combat just doesn't work unless is heavily modified. In general, i prefer : Turn Based with options to speed up combat > RtWP > TB.

But will not avoid a game just cuz is TB. In the worst case, i can use Cheat engine to speed up the game or download a speed mod



Wrong. People should play BG3 AND the classics. If someone ask me if i believe that BG3 will be great, i will say that yes but not great as BG2... I would prefer if BG3 was named "baldur's gate : infinity" or anything else because is not a proper sequel to bhaalspawn saga BUT is just my opinion.

My honest fear is that happens the same thing that happened with fallout. When you talk about fallout to a modern gamer, he will think on FL3/FL4. Not FL2. Same with elder scrolls. A lot of people don't even know that there are 3 ES games before Oblivion/Skyrim. And lets be real, the modern game journalists "kingmaker sucks because swords aren't effective vs insect swarms" can't play BG1/BG2. THAC0 rules would melt their brains.

PS : Shadowheart is not cutie. The succubus companion on WoTR is.
 

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