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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Larian Studios' started by Belegarsson, May 30, 2019.

  1. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    We don't expect anything better from BG3, but what about BG4? :smug:
     
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  2. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    If it happens, then more of the same (i.e. D:OS 4).
     
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  3. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    I bet 50 brofists that they are already working on it.
     
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  4. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    Well, BG3 is nothing but a big publicity stunt for Larian. After that, I imagine that they'd prefer to keep to their own IP (whether isomestric or 3D a la BG3) as to avoid design constraints imposed upon them by WotC.
     
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  5. Dodo1610 Magister

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    I really don't think that they will make BG4, Swen already said times that they don't want to become a Forgotten Realms studio, the game after Bg3 will be a Divinity title
     
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  6. Thac0 Hopeless Optimist Patron

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    I hope they dont blueball us on a 10 level game that gets never continued.
    Owlcat for 11-20 Baldurs Gate IV pls. Although maybe not because I dont want to place them beneath the corporate hand of Hasbro.
     
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  7. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    BG4 yes but only after IWD3 (RTwP for the win) and Temple of elemental evil 2!

    Did I mentioned Arcanum? Larian should make Arcanum 2!
     
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  8. Robber Baron Educated

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    It's clear that Swen wants BG3 to be a successor to BG2 and not BG1. Illithid worm kicks of the game with a clear threat and a goal for the player to work towards to. We sadly can't expect the game world to be as big as the old games so for the adventure to be meaningful and expansive without backtracking the narrative needs to be aggressive.
     
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  9. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    Nah, Swen just wants to bring more attention to Larian as well as to experiment with the preexisting D:OS format without tarnishing that series' reputation.
     
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  10. Thac0 Hopeless Optimist Patron

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    Bit of a shame, since Baldurs Gate 1 is the better game. To truly make a game in the image of Baldurs Gate 1 you need to start on a clean slate so BG3 could never come after BG1.
    I would love a Curse of Strahd 5e crpg made with the BG 1 design philosophy in mind. That could become my all time favourite game.
     
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  11. prodigydancer Arcane In My Safe Space

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    Everything that happened in the D:OS games had an explanation. So what exactly was incoherent there?
     
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  12. Robber Baron Educated

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    If you enjoy low level adventuring I can recommend Realms of Arkania games.
     
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  13. Dodo1610 Magister

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    Actually, the BG3 main story is much more inspired by BG1: You are true soul/Bhallspawn you are threatened by Cult of the absolute/Iron Thron which is led by another True soul/Bhaalspwn who unites bandits and other monsters in order to take over the city of Baldurs Gate because of the dead three/Bhaal. Source: https://i.imgur.com/wDhL6kh.png + the stuff Swen said during the stream.
    Of course, the story is much grander and more "Epic" but the similarities are there.
     
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  14. prodigydancer Arcane In My Safe Space

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    It's hard to directly compare D:OS2 with BG1 in the world size, but let's try.

    BG1 consisted of about 60 maps (including major interiors and dungeons). Those maps were relatively small by today's standards and only seemed large because of the 640x480 screen resolution. Many of them were also largely empty. D:OS2 has 4 acts and to be effectively as large as BG1 each act needs to be as large as 15 of BG1 maps. And 15 is just 5x3. Like I said, the maps were rather small in BG1, so we have no reason to say that the whole of BG1 is significantly larger (if it's larger at all) than the whole of D:OS2.
     
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  15. Robber Baron Educated

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    Sadly, of all the DoS2 maps only Reaper's coast and Arx are likely to make up for the size of 15 BG1-like maps, Nameless Isle and Fort Joy are 5-7 at best.
     
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  16. underground nymph Learned

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    loved: examine UI. gonna spend hours reading shit and looking at 3d models which are expected to be of high quality;
    disgusting: blood spills on the ground. whimsy color, ridiculous amount, shit stain-y shape. absolutely no.
     
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  17. prodigydancer Arcane In My Safe Space

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    You slightly exaggerate the size of BG1, but let's just assume you're right and D:OS2 is 25% smaller. It's hardly a meaningful difference, considering that BioWare could easily cut 25% of BG1 without actually losing any content.
     
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  18. norolim Cipher

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    You mean these two:



    OK, since I also like low level RPGs, I'll give them a go. But if they turn out to be unplayable buggy mess with terrible graphics, I'll have your head.
     
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  19. Dodo1610 Magister

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    I could live with this looking like Divinity but now I found out they stole from Kingmaker and added a giant magical Owlbear :argh:
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Robber Baron Educated

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    If you enjoy low-level adventuring you'll easily find major points of interest in these games that will overshadow their obvious low budget nature.

    I greatly exaggerate the potential size of BG3(I'll be very happy to be proven wrong) considering how vertical they are aiming for the locations to be, DoS2 areas are very cramped together leaving the scale of adventure to your imagination.
     
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  21. onemananadhisdroid Augur

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    If they're clever they are gonna license their engine for exactly that sort of thing though…

    Icewind Dale III, make it happen! :grpg:
     
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  22. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Those are the remakes, get the originals instead.
     
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  23. norolim Cipher

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    Nah, I'll stick to the originals.:smug:
     
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  24. GrainWetski Arcane

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    Why are people talking about Baldur's Gate in this thread?
     
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