Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[rusty_shackleford]

WotR will be the greatest rpg ever made

it will be more mediocre eurojank overhyped by slavboos
aka 80% of the games on this site

 

[Sweeper]

it will be more mediocre eurojank overhyped by slavboos
aka 80% of the games on this site

RPGs can't be good if they don't have jank.

 

[Storyfag]

Doesn't exist, never has, never will.

Sure it does.
Combat > story
(...)

No, u.

There, your precious purported consensus goes out the window

 

[Storyfag]

WotR will be the greatest rpg ever made

it will be more mediocre eurojank overhyped by slavboos
aka 80% of the games on this site

And how the very Belgian BG3 will *not* be eurojank?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

WotR will be the greatest rpg ever made

it will be more mediocre eurojank overhyped by slavboos
aka 80% of the games on this site

And how the very Belgian BG3 will *not* be eurojank?

Well, for starters, we can assume we'll be able to actually finish it at launch unlike a certain other game.

 

[Raghar]

I'm more side-eyeing that Win 10 requirement.

Windows 7 is not spported anymore and Windows 8.1 market share is insignificant. It's much better to target W10 from the get go which allows you to use current and future W10 exclusive DX12 libraries.

But Win 10 isn't the best thing in the world and "upgrading" to it will break who knows how many compatibilities with old games.

I play quite a bit of old shit and didn't have any problems on W10 (nothing beyond what was already a problem on W7, anyway). And yes, it is upgrading. The OS offers much better performance and features for game engines to utilize. No one's going to bother supporting end of life OS with ~6% market share when the most popular one is at almost 90% and is superior in every single way from the developer's standpoint.

About what are you talking about? Games are programs that are isolated from the rest of the system. Most gaming incompatibilities were done by linking W10 library when someone didn't bother to set W7 library in linker. (Or when they used DX12, that MS abomination which MS wanted to use to lock new games out of W7. Vulkan works similarly, and it works on W7.)

 

[Sweeper]

No, u.

There, your precious purported consensus goes out the window

U got me bro.
My entire view of the world, life and existence itself is now completely and utterly destroyed.

Well, for starters, we can assume we'll be able to actually finish it at launch unlike a certain other game.

Except the Belgian shit isn't even worth finishing.

 

[Lacrymas]

The game starts with the main character captured by mind flayers and thrown into the midst of the blood war between devils and demons in hell. I think we can safely say that the "not too over the top" ship has already sailed.

It still could be if the focus is on a group of adventurers trying to survive an all-out supernatural war. But it won't be that.

 

[Sweeper]

If Larian is so good at ARRPEEGEES, where the fuck is the D:OS 2 build thread?
Kingmaker has 160 pages of build discussion.
The entire Underrail thread is basically just builds.
I rest my case. Larianfaggotry only appeals to the braindead who want to look at bright colors and break open barrels.
Fucking retards.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If Larian is so good at ARRPEEGEES, where the fuck is the D:OS 2 build thread?
Kingmaker has 160 pages of build discussion.
The entire Underrail thread is basically just builds.
I rest my case. Larianfaggotry only appeals to the braindead who want to look at bright colors and break open barrels.
Fucking retards.

people actually play dos2 instead of spending time thinking about playing it and then never actually playing it

 

[Sweeper]

people actually play dos2 instead of spending time thinking about playing it and then never actually playing it

Yeah, people actually have to spend time to plan out their builds when they play good RPGs.
And they actually have questions about mechanics cause they're not so simple a 4 year old could understand them.
I know, shocking.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

people actually play dos2 instead of spending time thinking about playing it and then never actually playing it

Yeah, people actually have to spend time to plan out their builds when they play good RPGs.
And they actually have questions about mechanics cause they're not so simple a 4 year old could understand them.
I know, shocking.

They figure it out themselves by playing the game instead of asking for other people to tell them how to play the game.

 

[Longes]

Plot and story isn't everything. We know plenty.

Typical binary thinking. You assume I think plot and story are everything, and conversely you treat them as if they're nothing.

You're pissed off about the gameplay system design choices, which is fine. But you can't say "it has nothing to do with BG" when you know pretty much nothing about the story.

It has nothing to do with the bg series*

*Barring any potential empty story references or cheap character re-emergences thrown in as an after thought, the game takes place many many years in the future. It's easy to connect things afterwards with a couple of words thrown in as an after thought, they would only be significant if parts of the games were built with these things in mind and were influenced by them.

I have to ask - what the fuck did you expect? The story of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 is thoroughly done and tied up. Since then three editions of D&D came out and the setting had massive changes.

It's called "Baldur's Gate 3" because "Baldur's Gate" is a known brand and, presumably, some game time will be spent in Baldur's Gate. Expecting it to be a narrative sequel to Baldur's Gate 2 is retarded, and I don't know why you'd want it to be that way.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

The issue is that it's dishonest marketing, Longes. It's not a Baldur's Gate game, but a different CRPG set in the same Forgotten Realms setting whose labeling as Baldur's Gate only serves to capitalize on the brand recognition of the previous games and to mislead the public.

 

[Thac0]

mislead the public.

Bruh. BG2 is so fucking old most of the public is not expecting a game that is in any way similar to it. Most people probably hope that it is not a narrative continuation because they never played each Baldurs Gate, or never got past cobold mines/irenicus lab. Calling it misleading is rich.

 

[Shrimp]

719 pages in and out of all things being 'discussed' it's still the game's title and whether or not it's a sequel.
I wish this shit could come out already just so we could move on to something else

 

[Heroic Liberator]

most of the public is not expecting a game that is in any way similar to it.

Then they shouldn't have called it Baldur's Gate, plain and simple.

 

[eilef]

I am going to wait until full product releases. I do not want to play in "acts", or play part of the game and then wait for true ending for years (hello Trespasser). Game looks interesting, but i hope story is a good one.

 

[Longes]

The issue is that it's dishonest marketing, Longes. It's not a Baldur's Gate game, but a different CRPG set in the same Forgotten Realms setting whose labeling as Baldur's Gate only serves to capitalize on the brand recognition of the previous games and to mislead the public.

Neverwinter Nights 2 wasn't a narrative sequel to Neverwinter Nights 1, and it was fine. None of the Final Fantasy numbers are narrative sequels. Icewind Dale 1 and Icewind Dale 2 aren't directly related by story.

I feel like of all the possible ways to dishonest marketing, "you've turned a series into a franchise" is so mild most people won't count it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

most of the public is not expecting a game that is in any way similar to it.

Then they shouldn't have called it Baldur's Gate, plain and simple.

I agree, bg2 should have been called something else because it didn't take place in baldur's gate.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

The issue is that it's dishonest marketing, Longes. It's not a Baldur's Gate game, but a different CRPG set in the same Forgotten Realms setting whose labeling as Baldur's Gate only serves to capitalize on the brand recognition of the previous games and to mislead the public.

Neverwinter Nights 2 wasn't a narrative sequel to Neverwinter Nights 1, and it was fine. None of the Final Fantasy numbers are narrative sequels.

I feel like of all the possible ways to dishonest marketing, "you've turned a series into a franchise" is so mild most people won't count it.

Yet NWN 2 was a sequel in terms of its gameplay. No comment on FF though since I haven't played any of them.

So given that they do not share anything other than genre and universe, there's no series to turn into a franchise - the franchise in question being the Forgotten Realms one. It'd be as preposterous as the recent Hobbit trilogy having had been called LotR 4-6 (and that might've made more sense than this since at least there is narrative overlap in that case).

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

most of the public is not expecting a game that is in any way similar to it.

Then they shouldn't have called it Baldur's Gate, plain and simple.

I agree, bg2 should have been called something else because it didn't take place in baldur's gate.

It should be called Shadows of Amn, but the general audience would be too dumb to realize that it's a sequel to Baldur's Gate.

 

[Harthwain]

most of the public is not expecting a game that is in any way similar to it.

Then they shouldn't have called it Baldur's Gate, plain and simple.

I agree, bg2 should have been called something else because it didn't take place in baldur's gate.

It should be called Shadows of Amn, but the general audience would be too dumb to realize that it's a sequel to Baldur's Gate.

Baldur's Gate 2 was literally called "Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn", indicating it takes places in Amn, while also being a sequel to Baldur's Gate 1. That was the whole point. It made sense.

Baldur's Gate 3 being called Baldur's Gate 3 wouldn't be much of a problem, if we knew what's the direct link between BG3 and the other games in the series. But, supposedly, there IS a connection. We just don't know what the connection is in detail:

We really don’t want to spoil anything but we wouldn’t call it Baldur’s Gate 3 if there wouldn’t be a link", he explained. "Let me just say that we touch upon the story of [Baldur's Gate] 1 & 2 in meaningful ways, there are returning characters and what happened in BG 1/2/[Throne of Bhaal] leads to what happens into BG3. You won’t necessarily see that at the start of the adventure but you will quickly understand once you get further into the game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

But, supposedly, there IS a connection. We just don't know what the connection is in detail:

We really don’t want to spoil anything but we wouldn’t call it Baldur’s Gate 3 if there wouldn’t be a link", he explained. "Let me just say that we touch upon the story of [Baldur's Gate] 1 & 2 in meaningful ways, there are returning characters and what happened in BG 1/2/[Throne of Bhaal] leads to what happens into BG3. You won’t necessarily see that at the start of the adventure but you will quickly understand once you get further into the game.

Fair enough, although I'm guessing that this is all PR bullshit.

 

[robinox]

The game starts with the main character captured by mind flayers and thrown into the midst of the blood war between devils and demons in hell. I think we can safely say that the "not too over the top" ship has already sailed.

That, and the party seemingly descending into underdark at lvl3 or something, is making me fear the worse indeed. We'll see.