Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Spectacle]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story. And it is actually good. Being a continuation of BG2, but with different graphics, different tone of writing would be much worse. This way it will new a completely new game, just using the Baldur's Gate name as a brand. Get over it.

It's set 100 years later because that is the CURRENT_YEAR in the 5e Forgotten Realms. You can't draw any other conclusions from that.

 

[J_C]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story. And it is actually good. Being a continuation of BG2, but with different graphics, different tone of writing would be much worse. This way it will new a completely new game, just using the Baldur's Gate name as a brand. Get over it.

This isn't a matter of "hope". Larian Studios straight up said in their A.M.A. on Reddit that the game is a continuation of the series.

They said that they continue the story (I doubt it)? Or they just acknowledged that it takes place in the same universe (duh?).

 

[Shaewaroz]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story.

But they're still going to have Minsk and Boo shoved somewhere in the game. Deep in your heart you know this.

 

[Mortmal]

Of course they can continue the story nothing hard to do, what will be hard is to refrain retards to make a thread with a title spoiling eveyrthing , thats a very retarded thing you only find here.

 

[Mortmal]

The Wall you have something to add to the discussion you stinking pile of shit , degenerate autist ? No i think not.

 

[kangaxx]

But they're still going to have Minsk and Boo shoved somewhere in the game. Deep in your heart you know this.

I've said this somewhere above too, but my bet is that you encounter at least one character from the original series, petrified á la Branwen.

 

[Lacrymas]

Minsc is active in current canon, so we'll definitely be seeing him. Unfortunately.

 

[Harthwain]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story. And it is actually good. Being a continuation of BG2, but with different graphics, different tone of writing would be much worse. This way it will new a completely new game, just using the Baldur's Gate name as a brand. Get over it.

It will be a new game with a new story, but with some ties to the old games: "there are returning characters and what happened in BG 1/2/[Throne of Bhaal] leads to what happens into BG3".

 

[kangaxx]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

 

[Storyfag]

It's set 100 years later because that is the CURRENT_YEAR in the 5e Forgotten Realms. You can't draw any other conclusions from that.

Which is pretty silly, come to think of it. Weren't the original BG games rather disconnected from the Forgotten Realms CURRENT_YEAR, whatever it was back then?

 

[Prime Junta]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

I believe he was petrified and spent the interim as a statue in some square in Baldur's Gate.

 

[Prime Junta]

It's set 100 years later because that is the CURRENT_YEAR in the 5e Forgotten Realms. You can't draw any other conclusions from that.

Which is pretty silly, come to think of it. Weren't the original BG games rather disconnected from the Forgotten Realms CURRENT_YEAR, whatever it was back then?

Nothing ever changes in the Forgotten Realms so the point is really moot.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story. And it is actually good. Being a continuation of BG2, but with different graphics, different tone of writing would be much worse. This way it will new a completely new game, just using the Baldur's Gate name as a brand. Get over it.

It will be a new game with a new story, but with some ties to the old games: "there are returning characters and what happened in BG 1/2/[Throne of Bhaal] leads to what happens into BG3".

Yeah, but "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" completely breaks the events of the games, since CHARNAME, if he chooses to remain a mortal, loses his Bhaal Essence, whilst the adventure module states that he remained mortal AND kept it, as did all the other Bhaalspawn (and presumably their children, since we know for sure it carries over).

 

[Fedora Master]

They're leaning hard on the Baldur's Gate brand name - even though their target audience probably never played the original games and only recognizes the name as "that old RPG everyone says was good".

 

[Lacrymas]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

A wild mage brought his statue to life.

RE: Bhaal's essence - I think this will lead to the "twist" that all of the PCs in BG3 are going to be Bhaalspawn and that's why they were either picked by the mindflayers or that's why the ceremorphosis process works differently on them.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

I believe he was petrified and spent the interim as a statue in some square in Baldur's Gate.

I wish the writer of the adventure module mentioning that cut his balls off. The statue was 10 FEET TALL. That wasn't a petrified Minsc. What exactly is he - whether a simulacra, a resurrection, or something else - is a different matter entirely. His return was the work of wild magic, so we may never get an answer. The only hint left so far is a witch in one of the comics stating that she "knows exactly who he is", when someone tries to introduce Minsc to her.

And this is the problem in general - the games, the various adventure modules, and the comic series contradict one another.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

Re-created/resurrected through wild magic.

 

[kangaxx]

What the fuck, so there was me joking about petrifying characters to unfreeze in BG3... and they've already done it with Minsc.

Great writing.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

A wild mage brought his statue to life.

RE: Bhaal's essence - I think this will lead to the "twist" that all of the PCs in BG3 are going to be Bhaalspawn and that's why they were either picked by the mindflayers or that's why the ceremorphosis process works differently on them.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20190425144927

This is his statue. No, this isn't a petrified human, since Minsc wasn't 3 metres tall. This is a statue.

Around the Year of True Omens, 1409 DR, the merchant the Wide in honor of Minsc, who had saved Lewel's life. The statue, known as the Beloved Ranger, depicted Minsc cupping Boo in his hands. It was a popular landmark and meeting point in the busy commercial district. ----- This is from "A Murder in Baldur's Gate"

Unbeknownst to anyone at the time, the statue was actually the real Minsc and Boo under the effects of petrification magic. --- The retard writer of "Descent into Avernus" added that on a whim, clearly having no idea what he's doing.

 

[Storyfag]

It's set 100 years later because that is the CURRENT_YEAR in the 5e Forgotten Realms. You can't draw any other conclusions from that.

Which is pretty silly, come to think of it. Weren't the original BG games rather disconnected from the Forgotten Realms CURRENT_YEAR, whatever it was back then?

Nothing ever changes in the Forgotten Realms so the point is really moot.

The divine roster tends to be on the active side of things.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

A wild mage brought his statue to life.

RE: Bhaal's essence - I think this will lead to the "twist" that all of the PCs in BG3 are going to be Bhaalspawn and that's why they were either picked by the mindflayers or that's why the ceremorphosis process works differently on them.

I've been proposing that since day 1 of the announcement, under my old account. Welcome to the club. Although I would add that they may be not necessarily children/descendants of Bhaal, but of all of the Dead Three.

 

[Harthwain]

Yeah, but "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" completely breaks the events of the games, since CHARNAME, if he chooses to remain a mortal, loses his Bhaal Essence, whilst the adventure module states that he remained mortal AND kept it, as did all the other Bhaalspawn (and presumably their children, since we know for sure it carries over).

Sven said: "Bhaal and maybe a couple of other guys are still around. What’s gonna happen with that? You’re gonna discover when you play BG3", so the question would be: can Baalspawns keep the Essence of Bhaal if Bhaal is back?

 

[Storyfag]

What the fuck, so there was me joking about petrifying characters to unfreeze in BG3... and they've already done it with Minsc.

Great writing.

Oh please, were you expecting anything else? And while it might not be stellar writing, but it utilises the established setting in a coherent manner. This happens rarely these days.

How did Minsc escape the ravages of time? As a human presumably he's excluded from the BG3 timeline?

A wild mage brought his statue to life.

RE: Bhaal's essence - I think this will lead to the "twist" that all of the PCs in BG3 are going to be Bhaalspawn and that's why they were either picked by the mindflayers or that's why the ceremorphosis process works differently on them.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20190425144927

This is his statue. No, this isn't a petrified human, since Minsc wasn't 3 metres tall. This is a statue.

Around the Year of True Omens, 1409 DR, the merchant the Wide in honor of Minsc, who had saved Lewel's life. The statue, known as the Beloved Ranger, depicted Minsc cupping Boo in his hands. It was a popular landmark and meeting point in the busy commercial district. ----- This is from "A Murder in Baldur's Gate"

Unbeknownst to anyone at the time, the statue was actually the real Minsc and Boo under the effects of petrification magic. --- The retard writer of "Descent into Avernus" added that on a whim, clearly having no idea what he's doing.

But what if he was petrified moments before his Enlarge Person buff wore off?

 

[Xamenos]

Some of you guys are still clinging hard to the hope that this game will be a continuation of the original BG games in some way. And with that you set yourself up to a big disappointment.

The game is not a sequel to BG2. There is a reason they set it 100 years later, so they can start a new story. And it is actually good. Being a continuation of BG2, but with different graphics, different tone of writing would be much worse. This way it will new a completely new game, just using the Baldur's Gate name as a brand. Get over it.

It will be a new game with a new story, but with some ties to the old games: "there are returning characters and what happened in BG 1/2/[Throne of Bhaal] leads to what happens into BG3".

Yeah, but "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" completely breaks the events of the games, since CHARNAME, if he chooses to remain a mortal, loses his Bhaal Essence, whilst the adventure module states that he remained mortal AND kept it, as did all the other Bhaalspawn (and presumably their children, since we know for sure it carries over).

I am far more interested in them retconning the circumstances of his death and his long, lonely existence as Duke of Baldur's Gate. It's been years since I read it and I'm still angry.

 

[Storyfag]

Yeah, but "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" completely breaks the events of the games, since CHARNAME, if he chooses to remain a mortal, loses his Bhaal Essence, whilst the adventure module states that he remained mortal AND kept it, as did all the other Bhaalspawn (and presumably their children, since we know for sure it carries over).

Sven said: "Bhaal and maybe a couple of other guys are still around. What’s gonna happen with that? You’re gonna discover when you play BG3", so the question would be: can Baalspawns keep the Essence of Bhaal if Bhaal is back?

Was Hercules supernatural while Zeus was around? I imagine all Forgotten Realms demigods retain a plethora of powers and special traits regardless of the status of their divine parent. Granted, with Bhall back, the Bhaalspawn might not be AS unique as they used to be.