Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars.

D&D had it since at least 1989 - mind flayers in general since 1st Edition.

ESG has been around less than 10 years.

 

[N'wah]

I was pretty disappointed when Shadowheart

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turned her hair white. For the sake of inclusivity she should have at least given herself a penis. The story was very high fantasy so there is no logical reason why she couldn't. I multi-classed her into a Cleric / Wizard so it would've made total sense, and well Larian must have added penis sliders for a reason. Imagine what a brave move it would have been if Larian turned her trans as a symbolism for the change in identity she was undergoing.

Is that the good route? Evil route just has her part her bangs to try to look more like Shar.

Both are kind of lame ideas. It's what you expect some dumb modern cunt to do after her boyfriend dumps her, not what someone would do when changing what's probably the most important part of their whole life.

Yup. I was actually pretty tolerant of her faith in Shar, all it seemingly took was high approval and/or passing the first persuasion check when you encounter the Nightsong to get her to abandon her faith.

 

[Elthosian]

Yo, I'm too lazy to dig through this thread and read 256 pages of drivel so somebody tell me, what's the general consensus of this game so far?

Unusually good RPG mechanics and overall, but 5E sucks and Larian put a bunch of tranny stuff in the game. Probably not as much trannyism as Wrath, but it may seem worse, since its cinematic.

Is 5E worse than 4E? I don't know shit about it mechanically but I remember people always bitching about 4E when I played the Neverwinter MMO and didn't have much problem with the worldbuilding in that game. Are the 5E problems just mechanical or from a worldbuilding POV too?

Troon stuff I'm not surprised about, but damn I was hoping it wouldn't be in this game. I bet the troons are hard to insult/kill/fuck over without a million consequences too. Gay bullshit like that is in every game that supports it.

lso is this bitch an annoying rug munching dyke like she looks like or is she supposed to just be more of an amazonian dommy mommy thing?

Not a dyke, but if you're into burn-victim demons, you have other problems.

I'm perfectly fine, my characters on the other hand...well...singed pubes might just have to be a character flaw I give them.

Xelocix

Karlach is the Reddit companion.

Goddamnit.

Otherwise, the game is both painful to play and pure joy at times. Long time since I have been this conflicted. It contains lots of typical modern shit, but at the same time, it's clear a lot of passion went into the game. The writing is so-so, beyond the oversexualized stuff I don't really care that much for any of the companions. The general story I feel is way too epic in scale, involving everything from aliens to gods, to angry devils. You don't have to have played the earlier games. It helps lore-wise, but there is so much stuff in BG3 that I feel lost, so I don't think it matters much.

The way you describe the writing makes it sound like a marvel capeshit movie. I was going to try playing BG1 and BG2 before BG3 but if I do I feel like I'm setting myself up for disappointment now. Like playing the Mass Effect trilogy and hoping into Andromeda right after.

I watched Guardians of the Galaxy 3 today and I just had the realization that all of these movies and games are interchangeable: talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. They all have the same ultra-epic alien invasion, world ending plots. They all have the same slapstick ironic humor. They all have the action cut scenes / sequences. They are all have a few tranny/negro/asian cardboard cutouts set front and center for the hero to sleep with.

Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

What I don’t get is why you people even bother with capeshit. It wasn’t good in the 80s nor in the 00s and not now. Wasted time and money.

 

[JamesDixon]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars. D&D had it since at least 1989. ESG has been around less than 10 years.

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

 

[Fedora Master]

I was pretty disappointed when Shadowheart

Spoiler

turned her hair white. For the sake of inclusivity she should have at least given herself a penis. The story was very high fantasy so there is no logical reason why she couldn't. I multi-classed her into a Cleric / Wizard so it would've made total sense, and well Larian must have added penis sliders for a reason. Imagine what a brave move it would have been if Larian turned her trans as a symbolism for the change in identity she was undergoing.

Is that the good route? Evil route just has her part her bangs to try to look more like Shar.

Both are kind of lame ideas. It's what you expect some dumb modern cunt to do after her boyfriend dumps her, not what someone would do when changing what's probably the most important part of their whole life.

Yup. I was actually pretty tolerant of her faith in Shar, all it seemingly took was high approval and/or passing the first persuasion check when you encounter the Nightsong to get her to abandon her faith.

Typical woman, in other words

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Yup. I was actually pretty tolerant of her faith in Shar, all it seemingly took was high approval and/or passing the first persuasion check when you encounter the Nightsong to get her to abandon her faith.

Actually, if you leave it up to her but have high approval, she'll do it anyway, even if you've run an evil route the whole time.

I had to reload and encourage her to kill the Nightsong. And that ungratful cunt, Shar, still wanted her to break up with my character - which I talked her out of, of course.

 

[Elthosian]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars. D&D had it since at least 1989. ESG has been around less than 10 years.

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

Nah. It was always shit and if you ever liked it you have shit preferences too. Star Wars lol. Cringe.

 

[GaelicVigil]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars.

D&D had it since at least 1989 - mind flayers in general since 1st Edition.

ESG has been around less than 10 years.

They were all very, very different in tone back then. There was a massive difference between Wrath of Khan, Return of the Jedi, Tim Burton's Batman, and Conan the Barbarian in tone. You knew they were very different settings. Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 felt nothing like Star Wars in tone.

These same franchises today are all interchangeable. You could take a goblin from Baldur's Gate 3 and plop him into Marvel or Star Wars and give him a new name and nobody would bat an eye today.

 

[JamesDixon]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars. D&D had it since at least 1989. ESG has been around less than 10 years.

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

Nah. It was always shit and if you ever liked it you have shit preferences too. Star Wars lol. Cringe.

You just have shit taste as evidenced by liking this steaming pile of shit game.

You're one of those edgy zoomers that think that everything before you were born was idiotic. Well all the things you currently enjoyed are here because of what came before. So we can already tell that you're a retard and have no appreciation for what came before. As such, I disregard your childish opinion.

I, also, noticed that you didn't say I was wrong. Quite telling.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

He's trying to say that aliens etc. are part of ESG and that's why all these IPs have them.

In reality, it's just that the writers for comic books and D&D just wanted to bring in different audiences at one point or another.

Space was popular in the 60s and 70s, so we got space in our X-Men comic books. Someone at TSR wanted to do something similar with D&D, and so we have interdimensional space empires now too.

ESG though, you're right, is a political checkbox that doesn't care if it breaks all the decades of collaborative writing just to put tranny pride parades in Waterdeep.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

There was a massive difference between Wrath of Khan, Return of the Jedi, Tim Burton's Batman, and Conan the Barbarian in tone.

The tone isn't ESG either. It's just millennial/zoomer hack writing for overstimulated audiences whose brains have been fried with porn and cellphones since childhood.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars.

D&D had it since at least 1989 - mind flayers in general since 1st Edition.

ESG has been around less than 10 years.

Like mentioned before, they just make up stuff in their heads on the fly for ragebait. It's triresome.

 

[Elthosian]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars. D&D had it since at least 1989. ESG has been around less than 10 years.

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

Nah. It was always shit and if you ever liked it you have shit preferences too. Star Wars lol. Cringe.

You just have shit taste as evidenced by liking this steaming pile of shit game.

You're one of those edgy zoomers that think that everything before you were born was idiotic. Well all the things you currently enjoyed are here because of what came before. So we can already tell that you're a retard and have no appreciation for what came before. As such, I disregard your childish opinion.

I, also, noticed that you didn't say I was wrong. Quite telling.

What are you rambling about? The movie I’ve enjoyed the most is Solaris and I have watched less than 10 movies released since 2010. If that’s the best you can do then it’s clear the capeshit destroyed all of your neurons. Or maybe you always were like that; it takes a retard to ever have liked these bullshit franchises.

 

[JamesDixon]

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

He's trying to say that aliens etc. are part of ESG and that's why all these IPs have them.

In reality, it's just that the writers for comic books and D&D just wanted to bring in different audiences at one point or another.

Space was popular in the 60s and 70s, so we got space in our X-Men comic books. Someone at TSR wanted to do something similar with D&D, and so we have interdimensional space empires now too.

ESG though, you're right, is a political checkbox that doesn't care if it breaks all the decades of collaborative writing just to put tranny pride parades in Waterdeep.

Ahh I see. He's using a bazooka to hit a fly then.

The entire space thing goes back to the 1950s though with Forbidden Planet and the like. If you really want to stretch it you can go back to the early 1900s for space stuff. HP Lovecraft's works are all about space aliens that want to destroy humans.

 

[JamesDixon]

What are you rambling about? The movie I’ve enjoyed the most is Solaris and I have watched less than 10 movies released since 2010. If that’s the best you can do then it’s clear the capeshit destroyed all of your neurons. Or maybe you always were mike that; it takes a retard to ever have liked these bullshit franchises.

This is what we call a strawman. It's a logical fallacy used by retards when they can't form a coherent response to what you've said. It's a defense mechanism for the mentally deficient.

When you can actually reply to what I typed let me know child. Otherwise, have a nice evening.

Also, you sound upset.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

talking alien creatures with swords, pew-pews, and magic/psychic abilities. ... Seriously. They are all the same in tone. Marvel, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons, Star Trek, and on and on. They are all the same. Corporate, ESG funded shlock.

Nigger, comic books had all of this shit back in the 70s. As did Star Trek and Star Wars. D&D had it since at least 1989. ESG has been around less than 10 years.

The difference is that the former was never mandated and fit the setting. With the latter it's a check box that you have to check off even when it breaks the setting.

Nah. It was always shit and if you ever liked it you have shit preferences too. Star Wars lol. Cringe.

You just have shit taste as evidenced by liking this steaming pile of shit game.

You're one of those edgy zoomers that think that everything before you were born was idiotic. Well all the things you currently enjoyed are here because of what came before. So we can already tell that you're a retard and have no appreciation for what came before. As such, I disregard your childish opinion.

I, also, noticed that you didn't say I was wrong. Quite telling.

What are you rambling about? The movie I’ve enjoyed the most is Solaris and I have watched less than 10 movies released since 2010. If that’s the best you can do then it’s clear the capeshit destroyed all of your neurons. Or maybe you always were like that; it takes a retard to ever have liked these bullshit franchises.

The "It was cool when I was young"-take.

booooooooring.

 

[GaelicVigil]

There was a massive difference between Wrath of Khan, Return of the Jedi, Tim Burton's Batman, and Conan the Barbarian in tone.

The tone isn't ESG either. It's just millennial/zoomer hack writing for overstimulated audiences whose brains have been fried with porn and cellphones since childhood.

Yep. I'm honestly surprised these movie/streaming/game studios don't just share digital assets and story ideas. They are all exactly the same. Baldur's Gate 3 feels like every plot from every Disney show I've seen over the past 10 years.

First time I saw the Ithilid ship flying over the city of Baldur's Gate I thought I was watching stock footage from The Avengers.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Baldur's Gate 3 feels like every plot from every Disney show I've seen over the past 10 years.

Bruh ...

 

[Elthosian]

What are you rambling about? The movie I’ve enjoyed the most is Solaris and I have watched less than 10 movies released since 2010. If that’s the best you can do then it’s clear the capeshit destroyed all of your neurons. Or maybe you always were mike that; it takes a retard to ever have liked these bullshit franchises.

This is what we call a strawman. It's a logical fallacy used by retards when they can't form a coherent response to what you've said. It's a defense mechanism for the mentally deficient.

When you can actually reply to what I typed let me know child. Otherwise, have a nice evening.

Also, you sound upset.

Any argument you don’t like can be framed as a fallacy, and the same could be said of your lackluster replies.

Note that I didn’t defend the game’s writing. I like the level design more than anything, so I might as well agree with your criticism, but I’m not going to miss a chance to call out capeshit enthusiasts for what they are.

That being said, enjoy your evening, kid.

 

[BrotherFrank]

I still haven't seen Shadowtits. How many times are you supposed to rest?

Happened on the 2nd full rest after resolving her quest for me.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

Suspension of disbelief is the avoidance—often described as willing—of critical thinking and logic in understanding something that is unreal or impossible in reality, such as something in a work of speculative fiction, in order to believe it for the sake of enjoying its narrative.

This 5e shit is pushing passed the suspension of disbelief. It's just too bloated and not focused. We're mixing high fantasy, fairy tales, cthulu shit, sci if. Throwing too much shit at the wall

That's post-modernism. Couldn't get it it up to come up with anything new so wallowing in all the old shit at once.

That is what I hate about all modern D&D and most RPG games in general is that they all feel they have to be so epic and dramatic all the time. I really enjoyed more 'grounded' D&D games that I played when I first encountered D&D back in the early 80's. Its funny to talk about orcs and magic swords and dwarfs a little cave with goblins as being 'grounded' because our parents would have thought we were doing something fantastic and out there...but now if you made something like that people would say its 'boring' probably. Had to roll my eyes at the very powerful +1 Morning-star with +1 damage even when you miss costing something like 149 gold, and some other super powerful hand crossbow with very powerful unlocked skills costing 124 gold or something. In the original AD&D games those would have cost 5000-8000 gold or something. Everything is dumbed down and soft and ghey. I do like the game, but it does also annoy me...its hard to explain..modern design shit is REALLY fucking decline, like in 10 years shits going to be unplayable.

This game is pretty powered down compared to Wrath or D:OS II tho. It's really nice all the subtle effects they've included without having to make everything +100 to hit vs 95 AC, which also ends up being a problem with MMO design and Diablo clones.

Totally, its why I can play it. I did not even try to play Wrath after quitting Kangmaker partway through for this exact reason. The +68 to hit, and the 59 Armour and the +4 I got to every attribute on all of my characters eventually by wearing rings, or hats, or belts whatever other bullshit so that they all had 18's in every attribute and most even had 20's and 22's if I remember right as you advanced in level unless you tried on purpose to handicap them; which I actually did with my main character, but it did not even matter because shit is so over powered and ridiculous. The plus and minus bonus for every attack roll is hilarious to read even 1/3ed the way through the game, it just got so silly I could not keep playing.

Anyway, so far this game is not like that and I will keep playing it so long as it remains this way. That is why I said did actually enjoy this game so far despite being annoyed by certain design aspects every so often. What happens is I just get this feeling, like how good a game could actually be if it had better design choices and I get this sinking feeling because I honestly can't imagine anybody ever making such equivalent decisions such as were made for Icewind Dale or Baldurs Gate ever again, and which at the time the games were released many people considered many of these choices 'Decline'-- but holy shit if those same choices could just be applied to a modern game such as this I would be so happy, but that seems to be very unlikely to ever happen.

 

[JamesDixon]

What are you rambling about? The movie I’ve enjoyed the most is Solaris and I have watched less than 10 movies released since 2010. If that’s the best you can do then it’s clear the capeshit destroyed all of your neurons. Or maybe you always were mike that; it takes a retard to ever have liked these bullshit franchises.

This is what we call a strawman. It's a logical fallacy used by retards when they can't form a coherent response to what you've said. It's a defense mechanism for the mentally deficient.

When you can actually reply to what I typed let me know child. Otherwise, have a nice evening.

Also, you sound upset.

Any argument you don’t like can be framed as a fallacy, and the same could be said of your lackluster replies.

Note that I didn’t defend the game’s writing. I like the level design more than anything, so I might as well agree with your criticism, but I’m not going to miss a chance to call out capeshit enthusiasts for what they are.

That being said, enjoy your evening, kid.

Except that you did exactly what I said you did. You never replied to a single point of my original comment then proceeded to build a strawman to attack. If you care to take on what I said feel free. Otherwise your tendies are getting cold and your mother will disapprove of you not eating again.

 

[Elthosian]

Baldur's Gate 3 feels like every plot from every Disney show I've seen over the past 10 years.

Bruh ...

I honestly don’t understand why people subject themselves to such trash content. At least this game has some decent gameplay to redeem the writing.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Baldur's Gate 3 feels like every plot from every Disney show I've seen over the past 10 years.

Bruh ...

I honestly don’t understand why people subject themselves to such trash content. At least this game has some decent gameplay to redeem the writing.

This retard obviously has only Marvel movies as a reference which makes it extra cringe. "Oh no, the new Marvel movie I just watched (WHY?) reminds me of that 80s spelljammer shit. It's sooooo bad."

This guy, Justicar and JamesDixon combined probably might somehow reach a three digit IQ, but honestly I doubt it.

 

[Elthosian]

JamesDixon You said it felt different to have all the checkboxes in old school capeshit because they weren’t mandated, I think it’s pretty obvious that it’s the same old shit done to cater the lowest common denominator. The fact Star Wars’ setting was built around all the shit we see everywhere now doesn’t make it any better.

I could have said it in a less dismissive way but the intent was clear.