Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[scytheavatar]

I'm wondering where Larian go from here given the financial success of BG3:

* Expansions(s)?
* Straight into a sequel?
* Adjacent D&D title in new setting?
* Return to Divinity Original Sin series?

Of course they could do more than one of the above given they can afford to run multiple teams now.

Swen sideswiping WOTC for the recent layoffs makes me question if Larian will ever work with WOTC again. Must be demoralizing that the people in WOTC who fought for Larian to work on BG3 are all gone now. With WOTC still looking like a sinking ship and TT people begging for Larian to be in charge of OneD&D (cause they have done a better job at improving 5e) I am not sure if it even makes sense for Larian to continue making 5e games.

In fact I would make a Pathfinder 2e game if I am Swen. With Owlcat seemingly done with the Pathfinder games there's a market opportunity there.

 

[Cryomancer]

Is this game any good? It looks like reskinned pathfinder

IF was reskinned Pathfinder would be good.

I honestly hated RT game mechanics. Is D&D 4e/DOS2 tier.

everyone loves my game besides a bunch of virgins on this forum and 4chan.

Many people here say that hate but play it. I have some people here in my steam. I will not dox anyone but a huge Larian hater and BG3 hater here has over 200 hours on BG3. BG3 is great, I just wish that it din't had so many pos modernsim nonsnese and a better ruleset.

When facing someone who didn't enjoy his games, his only reaction is complete confusion. "You don't like? But the press said it was 10/10"

Well, not defending Larian but if your restaurant makes food, everyone enjoys your food except a bunch of people who only like very traditional food, would you change how you make your food for less than 1% of your costumers? Larian is the unqiue CRPG dev who tries to get mass appeal. Others wanna to satisfy its "grognard" niche.

would make a Pathfinder 2e game if I am Swen

If was up to me, Larian could make a Warhammer Fantasy game and trying to be a bit faithful to P&P as 5e was.

 

[whydoibother]

 

[Lacrymas]

Most of the time it's "you can fuck this strange spider creature? Well, now you can!"

 

[whydoibother]

Most of the time it's "you can fuck this strange spider creature? Well, now you can!"

 

[Fedora Master]

Soyer is right for once

 

[MerchantKing]

One of the most overrated games in recent memory

One of the most overrated games of all time I'd say. The overwhelming hype and adoration this game receives borders on parody.

How is it overrated, everyone loves my game besides a bunch of virgins on this forum and 4chan.

The games that are actually overrated are Owlcuck games but adored on this incel forum.

Meanwhile:

Pathetic

This thread is for the discussion of Larian games and talking about how shitty and overrated they are. Bringing up a different game by yet another shitty developer that isn't nearly as overrated is not going to change the fact that BG3 is overrate trash. It's little more than an interactive marvel movie in Greenwood's fetish compilation setting. The only thing that makes this a game is that it has DOS2's mediocre gameplay with reduced barrelmancy and other gimmicks that only get shilled as the "best gameplay in crpgs" because a reddit tier reviewer on youtube soyfaces about being able to use some retarded gimmick. Meanwhile in reality, it's not really much better than other games when it comes to gameplay.

 

[Florian Gheorghe]

One of the most overrated games in recent memory

One of the most overrated games of all time I'd say. The overwhelming hype and adoration this game receives borders on parody.

for me Colony Ship was game of the year. I prefer a shorter game with big repeatability. Plus no gay propaganda.

 

[Swen]

One of the most overrated games in recent memory

One of the most overrated games of all time I'd say. The overwhelming hype and adoration this game receives borders on parody.

How is it overrated, everyone loves my game besides a bunch of virgins on this forum and 4chan.

The games that are actually overrated are Owlcuck games but adored on this incel forum.

Meanwhile:

Pathetic

This thread is for the discussion of Larian games and talking about how shitty and overrated they are. Bringing up a different game by yet another shitty developer that isn't nearly as overrated is not going to change the fact that BG3 is overrate trash. It's little more than an interactive marvel movie in Greenwood's fetish compilation setting. The only thing that makes this a game is that it has DOS2's mediocre gameplay with reduced barrelmancy and other gimmicks that only get shilled as the "best gameplay in crpgs" because a reddit tier reviewer on youtube soyfaces about being able to use some retarded gimmick. Meanwhile in reality, it's not really much better than other games when it comes to gameplay.

 

[processdaemon]

I like the game but even if I didn't I'd think the good reception was a positive thing. It wasn't necessarily the fact it's a cRPG that made it popular but its success at least demonstrates the continuing viability of cRPGs as genre and will hopefully seduce a few devs who might otherwise go down a more aRPG route back.

 

[Efe]

what is main account of swen? or is there a way to ignore all accounts of a user without needing to find out?

 

[whydoibother]

I like the game but even if I didn't I'd think the good reception was a positive thing. It wasn't necessarily the fact it's a cRPG that made it popular but its success at least demonstrates the continuing viability of cRPGs as genre and will hopefully seduce a view devs who might otherwise go down a more aRPG route back.

1. Its a good game in of itself.
2. Its a good development of the market regardless of its own qualities.
3. """People""" who disagree with 1 and 2 are not actually people and should be recycled.

 

[Lacrymas]

It's not particularly good per se, what exactly does it do in an above average way? It's mid.

 

[whydoibother]

It's not particularly good per se, what exactly does it do in an above average way? It's mid.

You just judge "the classics" by a lower standard. There's more reactivity, more recognition of who your character is and what you've done, combat is objectively superior to other offerings in the genre, and the audio-visual presentation is the best we've had.

 

[Reyvik]

It's not particularly good per se, what exactly does it do in an above average way? It's mid.

What's average? By your standards

 

[Lacrymas]

I wouldn't even have to resort to the classics, we've had recent RPGs that do basically everything BG3 does but better.

1. Story/Plot - MotB, Shadowrun Dragonfall, Age of Decadence
2. General writing - Bloodlines, Age of Decadence, KotOR2
3. Companions - MotB, KotOR2, Spellforce 3 and its expansions, I'd even dare say Dragon Age 2
4. Itemization - Pillars of Eternity 1/2, Tales of Maj'Eyal
5. Encounter design/difficulty - Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, Gloomhaven, King Arthur: Knight's Tale, Knights of the Chalice, Trials of Fire; yes, even PoE1/2 on PotD
6. Aesthetics - PoE1/2, Spellforce 3, UnderRail
7. Reactivity - Age of Decadence (obviously), the Dragon Ages, Mass Effects and Witchers have about the same amount of reactivity as BG3.
8. Character building - ToME, the Pathfinders, PoE2

The combat system is 5E and a bastardized version at that, so no points there, Solasta does the same thing. The only thing BG3 has going for it that is above average for the genre is graphical fidelity.

 

[Silverfish]

Unironically, this is something that the real Swen would say. He also has no understanding of why his games are shit. When facing someone who didn't enjoy his games, his only reaction is complete confusion. "You don't like? But the press said it was 10/10"
Suspicious.

I don't know, man. It seems unlikely that a guy who wore half a suit of armor to an awards show could be kind of retarded.

 

[Reyvik]

I don't know, man. It seems unlikely that a guy who wore half a suit of armor to an awards show could be kind of retarded.

It was VGA. Wearing clown costume on this event would be more proper

 

[MerchantKing]

One of the most overrated games in recent memory

One of the most overrated games of all time I'd say. The overwhelming hype and adoration this game receives borders on parody.

How is it overrated, everyone loves my game besides a bunch of virgins on this forum and 4chan.

The games that are actually overrated are Owlcuck games but adored on this incel forum.

Meanwhile:

Pathetic

This thread is for the discussion of Larian games and talking about how shitty and overrated they are. Bringing up a different game by yet another shitty developer that isn't nearly as overrated is not going to change the fact that BG3 is overrate trash. It's little more than an interactive marvel movie in Greenwood's fetish compilation setting. The only thing that makes this a game is that it has DOS2's mediocre gameplay with reduced barrelmancy and other gimmicks that only get shilled as the "best gameplay in crpgs" because a reddit tier reviewer on youtube soyfaces about being able to use some retarded gimmick. Meanwhile in reality, it's not really much better than other games when it comes to gameplay.

It's retarded to pretend some awards show that exists only as a propaganda arm of intelligence agencies means anything. The only thing it tells you is that the game has all the propaganda those agencies want to push.

 

[KeAShizuku]

I wouldn't even have to resort to the classics, we've had recent RPGs that do basically everything BG3 does but better.

1. Story/Plot - MotB, Shadowrun Dragonfall, Age of Decadence
2. General writing - Bloodlines, Age of Decadence, KotOR2
3. Companions - MotB, KotOR2, Spellforce 3 and its expansions, I'd even dare say Dragon Age 2
4. Itemization - Pillars of Eternity 1/2, Tales of Maj'Eyal
5. Encounter design/difficulty - Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, Gloomhaven, King Arthur: Knight's Tale, Knights of the Chalice, Trials of Fire; yes, even PoE1/2 on PotD
6. Aesthetics - PoE1/2, Spellforce 3, UnderRail
7. Reactivity - Age of Decadence (obviously), the Dragon Ages, Mass Effects and Witchers have about the same amount of reactivity as BG3.
8. Character building - ToME, the Pathfinders, PoE2

The combat system is 5E and a bastardized version at that, so no points there, Solasta does the same thing. The only thing BG3 has going for it that is above average for the genre is graphical fidelity.

I agree with you but the full voice acting and animations appeals to the mainstream instead of reading lots of text. What makes BG3 a hit is the production values. You can thank Tencent for that.

 

[Lemming42]

Just checked out the post-patch party ending and wow, I hate it! Usually I like happy endings but the original ending of

Spoiler

jumping into Avernus with Karlach while everyone else goes off to face their potentially-grim fates

was fine. It wasn't even a downbeat ending, there was explicitly hope for everyone, there were just still immense challenges ahead. The party ending is so dumb - "oh, everything worked out just off-screen while you were away! we're all fine now!" Come on, that sucks all the drama out. Nobody even feels in-character! Astarion's now a dashing hero, Lae'zel's a sentimental twerp, etc.

It was so self-indulgent as well, like the Citadel DLC in ME3 except that was at least funny.

I hope they let you disable it through the options menu or something in future. It's good for people who want it and I suppose it's nice that people liked the characters enough to want a saccharine send-off, but honestly when I next replay the game I'll just quit to desktop when it fades to black in Avernus.

 

[Padzi]

 

[Reyvik]

Minsc should be played by Joe Rogan

 

[whydoibother]

7. Reactivity - the Dragon Ages, Mass Effects and Witchers have about the same amount of reactivity as BG3.

I'm sorry, but no. The rest of your post is also bad, and its clear you are trying to move towards the "prestigious" position of hating BG3 by any means necessary, but this is too much. This is reaching too low. Have some self respect.

 

[Fedora Master]

I'm still waiting on people pointing out where the replayability is.