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Swen

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So, who of you posted this review?

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Couldn't have been me because I wouldn't pay money for your crap. :smug:
I'm okay with that, I support the poor and homeless!
 

MerchantKing

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I really don't like the Bioware/Obsidian speech check presentation like in most games. Fallout 1 did speech checks right. It didn't advertise them nor did it tell you what numbers you had to roll. You had to deduce where the checks were and either you succeeded or you didn't. And then Arcanum was even better. In Arcanum, other characters recognized my character at least as a Gnome though making some antinanatic remarks without me needing to choose any dialogue options! BG3 doesn't really do anything along those lines consistently and I notice nothing close to the quality of Arcanum in that regard when I played this. Not only that, BG3 doesn't really have Gnomes or Dwarves. Just halflings pretending to be them by making some retarded version of a mechanical golem and there are no Turnip plantations to be found anywhere! How can you have Gnomes without Turnip plantations? Plus real Gnomes would have never have had their families captured and held hostage since they would be protected by an army of well trained and loyal half-ogre bodyguards. Real Gnomes would built much better robots than those walking trashcans those halfling LARPers built.
 

Lacrymas

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I am quite the dumb-dumb, that's true, but I don't think it is. BG3 doesn't have staying power, either gameplay-wise or story-wise. Most people will play through it, probably quit in the beginning of act 3, and never think about it again.
 
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I am quite the dumb-dumb, that's true, but I don't think it is. BG3 doesn't have staying power, either gameplay-wise or story-wise. Most people will play through it, probably quit in the beginning of act 3, and never think about it again.
People do that with all games and they still manageto have an everlasting impression with society as a whole
 

Lacrymas

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They manage to make an impression because they have something to impress with. I don't see that in BG3. It did, however, get the message across that turn-based RPGs/games sell. We are currently in the beginning of the turn-based era. Yay us.
 

Rhobar121

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I am quite the dumb-dumb, that's true, but I don't think it is. BG3 doesn't have staying power, either gameplay-wise or story-wise. Most people will play through it, probably quit in the beginning of act 3, and never think about it again.
The game certainly doesn't have over 150,000 players on Steam almost half a year after its release.
 

Fedora Master

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I really don't like the Bioware/Obsidian speech check presentation like in most games. Fallout 1 did speech checks right. It didn't advertise them nor did it tell you what numbers you had to roll. You had to deduce where the checks were and either you succeeded or you didn't. And then Arcanum was even better. In Arcanum, other characters recognized my character at least as a Gnome though making some antinanatic remarks without me needing to choose any dialogue options! BG3 doesn't really do anything along those lines consistently and I notice nothing close to the quality of Arcanum in that regard when I played this. Not only that, BG3 doesn't really have Gnomes or Dwarves. Just halflings pretending to be them by making some retarded version of a mechanical golem and there are no Turnip plantations to be found anywhere! How can you have Gnomes without Turnip plantations? Plus real Gnomes would have never have had their families captured and held hostage since they would be protected by an army of well trained and loyal half-ogre bodyguards. Real Gnomes would built much better robots than those walking trashcans those halfling LARPers built.
The whole "class/race matters thing" was just another Belgian lie.
 

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Delterius

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It did, however, get the message across that turn-based RPGs/games sell.
which is definitely unimpressive. they merely buckled the conventional thinking of the past 20 years.

lacrymas do you know the saying about the one eyed king. you're being the reverse of that
When have sales corresponded to quality ever?
Is not selling a pre-requisite for quality?

Through sheer C&C and reiteration, a series of games have broken through the ceiling and put forward a game genre which, until very recently, was notoriously unpopular. Or expected to be unpopular. That is not just BG3 but also the story of D:OS. BG3 is the culimination of that story. And I think it's rather self evident that people are grasping at straws to pretend that the game is somehow bad and forgetful. But we all know Sven is gonna live rent free in the hands of people from BioWare to Bethesda to this very thread for years to come.

A bold prediction? Don't really think so. Even the most hopeful advocates of TB RPGs didn't expect the D:OS success years ago, much less this insanity. And it is not unearned. Within a week of launch, we already had articles claiming that BG3 cannot be the standard of RPGs. And those articles are right. Very few development teams could put this much effort into reiteration. If anything, I think that's the greater impediment to BG3's influence on game development going forward.
 
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Non-Edgy Gamer

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I am quite the dumb-dumb, that's true, but I don't think it is. BG3 doesn't have staying power, either gameplay-wise or story-wise. Most people will play through it, probably quit in the beginning of act 3, and never think about it again.
I think they'll quit way before Act 3 and have a decent impression of it.

I think most of the reddit crowd gave up in the Underdark or in Act 2 and then just watched clips on YouTube.
 

Lacrymas

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Is not selling a pre-requisite for quality?

Through sheer C&C and reiteration, a series of games have broken through the ceiling and put forward a game genre which, until very recently, was notoriously unpopular. Or expected to be unpopular. That is not just BG3 but also the story of D:OS. BG3 is the culimination of that story. And I think it's rather self evident that people are grasping at straws to pretend that the game is somehow bad and forgetful. But we all know Sven is gonna live rent free in the hands of people from BioWare to Bethesda to this very thread for years to come.

A bold prediction? Don't really think so. Even the most hopeful advocates of TB RPGs didn't expect the D:OS success years ago, much less this insanity. And it is not unearned. Within a week of launch, we already had articles claiming that BG3 cannot be the standard of RPGs. And those articles are right. Very few development teams could put this much effort into reiteration. If anything, I think that's the greater impediment to BG3's influence on game development going forward.
Yeap, that's true. I also didn't expect the D:OS (2) reaction and sales. However, my opinion is still that Larian's recent offerings aren't very good games and are painfully average. Marvel films are painfully average too, but they are much more popular than Larian's games. Popularity =/= quality. It's telling that you yourself are trying to convince me of BG3's virtues without naming anything that the game itself does extraordinarily well.
 

Parabalus

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Is not selling a pre-requisite for quality?

Through sheer C&C and reiteration, a series of games have broken through the ceiling and put forward a game genre which, until very recently, was notoriously unpopular. Or expected to be unpopular. That is not just BG3 but also the story of D:OS. BG3 is the culimination of that story. And I think it's rather self evident that people are grasping at straws to pretend that the game is somehow bad and forgetful. But we all know Sven is gonna live rent free in the hands of people from BioWare to Bethesda to this very thread for years to come.

A bold prediction? Don't really think so. Even the most hopeful advocates of TB RPGs didn't expect the D:OS success years ago, much less this insanity. And it is not unearned. Within a week of launch, we already had articles claiming that BG3 cannot be the standard of RPGs. And those articles are right. Very few development teams could put this much effort into reiteration. If anything, I think that's the greater impediment to BG3's influence on game development going forward.
Yeap, that's true. I also didn't expect the D:OS (2) reaction and sales. However, my opinion is still that Larian's recent offerings aren't very good games and are painfully average. Marvel films are painfully average too, but they are much more popular than Larian's games. Popularity =/= quality. It's telling that you yourself are trying to convince me of BG3's virtues without naming anything that the game itself does extraordinarily well.
It's got the best take on 5E so far.
 

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