Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[ERYFKRAD]

Give me a good seed for barbarians, pretty please.

BARBARIANS is what I will be using for my lone wolf start. Damned if I know what it will do, but double damned if I use anything else.

 

[hivemind]

ROBINHOOD is very comfy for barbs

 

[AwesomeButton]

Every other one in the line having rotation is still good enough most of the time.

 

[Reinhardt]

3 battles later and he's still alive.
Training new peasants is sloooooow... I'm afraid one disaster and we are dead.

 

[hivemind]

Every other one in the line having rotation is still good enough most of the time.

don't ever fucking question me again if you know what's good for you

 

[hivemind]

i'm not kidding around I just finished reading the wikipedia summaries of the two john wick movies so i'm imbued with murderous energy

 

[Prime Junta]

i dont have aoe weapons or shieldwalls and I demolish 20+ spiders on the reg

Shields are a hindrance with spiders, your objective is to whack them before they whack you and they're insanely squishy, plus they'll use the first attack to web you anyway. Max damage is the way to go.

 

[hivemind]

Shields are a hindrance

yes

 

[Murk]

I've been fooling around with a Barbarian start, but certainly tempted towards Lone Wolf. Do people try and run along solo for a while, or try to recruit a full band of tag-alongs?

I've been running solo both by choice and by chance. I haven't recruited anyone from a town but have accepted every request to join from events (they all died though; on dead buddy #9 now).

Strangely enough, lone wolf is a great 'merchant sim' start since you don't pay any money to anyone (the hedge knight is you, so you don't pay yourself; though it makes for some funny text in events when you 'sidle' up to yourself and argue with yourself).

On day 99 with him, level 17, absolute murder machine -- but probably need to get some other sell sword/hedge knight/militia to build up for whatever crisis. Playing on expert/expert and 'soft' ironman.

 

[Reinhardt]

lone wolf is a great 'merchant sim'

 

[Riel]

I really want to play the new expansion, but I want it to be the best experience. How is the game's current state in regards to balance and bugs?

 

[Parabalus]

I've started as a cultist, but the "important" events are really rare. At day 50ish and only had one power-up.

The late tiers are extremely tempting though

Spoiler

Chosen: +10 Resolve, +2 Fatigue Recovery, +20 HP, +5 Melee and Ranged Defence, and doesn't take morale checks from allies dying, losing HPs or Fresh Injuries

.

 

[Tigranes]

What do folks think is a good way to start your Lone Wolf guy? He seems to always spawn with a greatsword, but at level 4 with the fatigue that you have, the starting sword + heavy armour combo seems really suboptimal to me.

Perhaps there's even temptation to go near-naked and Steel Brow (+Colossus?), but your mdef will be 20 at best at level 4.

I'm thinking a longsword & parry is one option, but seems like no matter what your guy will suffer from the hit bonus to being surrounded, unless you hire half a dozen tagalongs right off the bat.

 

[AwesomeButton]

don't ever fucking question me again if you know what's good for you

I know what's good for you

Spoiler

Sex

managed to kill a hexe or two and a few unholds

for one don't fight things that are economically inefficient to fight

I don't know about unholds but hexes are cost-effective to fight. Especially when they drop stuff like Mysterious Herbs, base worth 1300.

BTW, has anyone had the event with the noble family prisoner who reveals his identity to you while you are on an escort caravan mission? I think there are two possible texts for this event, and you have to read carefully. In one version there is a hint that the prisoner is a real noble. At least it seemed so to me the second time this event fired, so I betrayed my caravan and went to the town the prisoner asked me to. I got paid 3000 gold for him, and my relation with that noble house improved. This was around day 45.

 

[Elhoim]

Lone wolf talking to himself. Really feels like a scene from the Fight Club.

 

[toro]

What do folks think is a good way to start your Lone Wolf guy? He seems to always spawn with a greatsword, but at level 4 with the fatigue that you have, the starting sword + heavy armour combo seems really suboptimal to me.

Perhaps there's even temptation to go near-naked and Steel Brow (+Colossus?), but your mdef will be 20 at best at level 4.

I'm thinking a longsword & parry is one option, but seems like no matter what your guy will suffer from the hit bonus to being surrounded, unless you hire half a dozen tagalongs right off the bat.

Restart the campaign until you get a hero with some resolve instead of initiative.

Spoiler

I won this fight because of the high ground and my main bro not wavering.

I'm playing on Veteran now and the thing above was an exception. You need at least 2 guys before you venture forth.

Unfortunately this game is triggering me: I had no problem running with a company of ragtags but I cannot do it anymore because I want perfect builds from the start.

It's really annoying to recruit a miner with bonuses on melee defense and fatigue but with ranged weapon (!?) It's driving me crazy and I'm restarting again and again.

I know. My problem. I just want some recruits with bonuses for melee and melee defense but I guess that simply will not going to happen.

Edit: Wtf is happening!? I thought I was replying in another thread. Jesus.

 

[Murk]

Update posted:

Elhoim it makes way more sense if you have the paranoid feat, causing the lone wolf to accuse himself in 3rd person of plotting against himself.

 

[Sarissofoi]

To be honest it would be much better if all starts have player character/avatar.
Most if not all scenarios would benefit from it and narration also would improve.
Like cultist start - you play as high resolve prophet, poacher start as Rob in the Hood, base start as a retired soldier with a bunch of new hires, the fresh start as either other sellsword or adv. noble, etc.
Lone wolf start just feel natural. To bad there is no unique perks.

Overall this Dlc have plenty of cool stuff. Not yoo much but both new starts and rules and barbs with new weapons are enjoable. Much more than beast dlc for sure.

I must admit that Lone wolf start is the only were "losing is fun" keep some merit.
Still it could be deeper or have more stuff but its fine.
Its fun. Sadly both x piratez and Starsector also released updates recently.
Sadly... heh

 

[Maculo]

My nimble Lone Wolf character (predictably) ended in tears, endlessly bullied by brigands and orcs. I don’t know how you make that work without pumping melee defense and perhaps initiative for the Dodge perk.

I went back to sword build for frenzy and berserk in another run, and I don’t regret it.

 

[Tigranes]

toro You know, double threads, Codex lyfe. I also thought this was the other thread.

You do need to abandon that inner desire for perfect builds and whatnot. I would also think that makes the game a lot less fun in the long run. That 50 attack no-trait daytaler that you picked up just to be fodder & die in the next fight? Sometimes ends up a level 15 hundred-fight veteran with many glories to his name.

I'm fooling around with the lone wolf to see how far I go. I started out picking up two losers early on, both of whom copped it in the very next fight (which probably helped the lone wolf clean everything up). Fatigue is certainly the big thing to overcome in these early ddays I think. But then LW is meant to be the 3-skull background start.

 

[jungl]

shulufuego good seed if you want full damage lone wolf. This makes the early game even harder but with that fatigue, decent resolve and attack damage potential makes for wicked axe user.

 

[Country_Gravy]

best seed is COUNTRYGRAVY.

Just ask your girl.

 

[Dr Skeleton]

Man, these new origins are fun.

Militia is a lot harder than it seems because you start with almost no weapons and armor and the games throws more at you because you have 12 men. You also spend a fortune on food, tools, medicine and replacing losses. After you get over that and get even low-mid tier weapons it starts to shine. Maces and stun are a lot better. Low melee skill doesn't matter as much when you overwhelm everyone. At one point I had 5 men with slingstaffs and 40-50 ranged skill and they killed raiders and barbarians through sheer rate of fire.

Lone Wolf is the opposite, you have tons of money to spare because of little upkeep and good initial gear. You can randomly die to stun or puncture but after you get 2-3 support bros and some dogs it gets more manageable. I love caravan missions especially because you get attacked by groups 8-9 thugs/raiders and get their gear and rewards for them because they ai calculates that a group of 3 is weaker than them. 12 men limit seems like it might be annoying at some point though, because of injuries and unless you stay at 11 you won't even be able to hire new recruits to check their stats without firing someone first.

Poachers are interesting with a ranged skill focus and always being able to scout locations. Maybe it's possible to make a bow/crossbow focused company if you really pick and choose your fights but you'd be completely screwed if you get attacked by some enemies even once.

I tried the deserters once but both my first-liners fled after the enemy got into melee because they had like 18 resolve, so there's also that.

 

[Agesilaus]

how do I suck less? Playing Beasts & Exploration. I'm at day 80-90 on easy, I'm doing alright I guess, but I dunno what I should be focusing on. I can kill brigands pretty easily, managed to kill a hexe or two and a few unholds. I'm scared of the stronger orcs. Fuck lindwurms and those shielded tree things. I've got like 7 shield bros (several flails, couple axes, sword or two, military pick etc), 1 crossbro, 2 archerbros, 2 ranged melee bros. Decently armored up but idk how people afford the really good shit (or have enough fatigue for it, although I'm doing okay right now). I read somewhere that militia is a decent mid-tier class so I've been buying up as many militiabros as I can. Also just got a sellsword who seems decent.

Been going colossus + dodge and/or steel brow + brawny so far, for most chars except ranged ofc.

Steel brow is a must have for all meleebros...

Just wear a helmet?


I get the resolve perk. No brother of mine is going to run when the ghosts screech. Most annoying way to die ever.

 

[Reinhardt]

Mandatory education for peasants! Student and gifted for everyone!