Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[Edija]

Does the game actually spawn enemies when you accept certain contracts? For example, you take a caravan mission and the game spawns in enemies in your path or is it all random, so just the enemies already on the map may or may not attack you?

 

[Shadowfang]

Does the game actually spawn enemies when you accept certain contracts? For example, you take a caravan mission and the game spawns in enemies in your path or is it all random, so just the enemies already on the map may or may not attack you?

I think it's random. Try saving at the beginning of a caravan run and load back at the end to see if things turn out the same. In my experience they can change.

 

[Alienman]

I gave up and savescummed to avoid my first battle with 3 alps earlier, yesterday I fought my first alps, 4 of them, and won. Levels around 5-6, 12 people in the group. Two dogs, also helped a lot.

Yeah, this was super early, only 6 men, with no dogs. Made it out alive eventually. Now every man has a war dog for these kind of situations. The new hardy dogs are really effective against spiders too, they even kill the eggs

 

[Teut Busnet]

Does the game actually spawn enemies when you accept certain contracts? For example, you take a caravan mission and the game spawns in enemies in your path or is it all random, so just the enemies already on the map may or may not attack you?

I'm sure they do - in some cases. There's a 'Brigand Hunters' group I only see right after I take a 'Patrol between three settlements in 7 days' contract. There are also the 'Big Game Hunt' contracts where you get paid per head of every (Direwolf / Spider / Nacho (?)) or every (Schrat / Unhold / Lindwurm) in a certain region. Those definetly spawn a couple of small groups of 'targets'.

Not sure about caravans, they might be random. But don't take caravan mission during 'Greenskin Invasion' or 'Undead Rising', the streets are full of enemies.

 

[Edija]

I gave up and savescummed to avoid my first battle with 3 alps earlier, yesterday I fought my first alps, 4 of them, and won. Levels around 5-6, 12 people in the group. Two dogs, also helped a lot.

Yeah, this was super early, only 6 men, with no dogs. Made it out alive eventually. Now every man has a war dog for these kind of situations. The new hardy dogs are really effective against spiders too, they even kill the eggs

Where do you get these dogs? They look different and the only one I have seen was the one you get at the barbarian start?

 

[Alienman]

Kennels sell them. They are slower but much tougher.

 

[AwesomeButton]

man dont fuk with me

Have sex.

the overall wealth you get from battles is more than if you afk deliver caravans

also exp matters too

That's newbie talk again - no one says don't take other contracts. If I'm going to a certain settlement anyway, I would take a caravan mission that would take me there, if just to cover my costs while on the way. There are reasons to take caravan missions.

 

[AwesomeButton]

exp and loot is more valuable than gold

I can't find better armors than "Worn Chainmail" (110 armor), and occasionally "Basic Mail Shirt" (115). For Mail Hauberks (150) I have to shop, and for shopping I need gold. The same applies for better than average weapons.

I see you don't have many fights against bandit leaders, bounty hunters, other mercs or regular army.

Not against groups with multiple high ranking brigands/raiders. I lack perspective here - is level 5-6 a good time to engage such enemies? I haven't began noble houses quests yet.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Kennels sell them. They are slower but much tougher.

Not all kennels.
My current map has kennels on the southern portion of the map; haven't seen a single warhound on sale.

 

[Reinhardt]

the ratio is garbage

My peasant ancient king trader militia prepared for first crisis.

Cropped inventory part so it won't trigger butthurt poorfags.

 

[hivemind]

>my op mod build is op
amazin'

 

[Reinhardt]

It's not mod, it's peasant start.

 

[hivemind]

brb gonna go have sex

 

[AwesomeButton]

the ratio is garbage

My peasant ancient king trader militia prepared for first crisis.

Cropped inventory part so it won't trigger butthurt poorfags.

So when do you suggest is the right time to start looking for gear in shops and in named locations combats? When should I start trying to win over a noble family?

 

[Reinhardt]

I don't care about nobles. They usually send you across half of the map for measly 2-3k geld. I can get more just trading.

I only take patrol missions and only if it's close and i can visit good shops. And if i already scouted some easy lairs for head chopping.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I don't care about nobles. They usually send you across half of the map for measly 2-3k geld. I can get more just trading.

I only take patrol missions and only if it's close and i can visit good shops. And if i already scouted some easy lairs for head chopping.

I thought getting on good terms with the nobles and raising the opinion of fortresses can bring down the costs of the better gear that's sold there?

Or you rely entirely on trade for money?

 

[Jimmious]

Reinhardt I wanna see more pics of your trading, fuck the haters

 

[Alienman]

the ratio is garbage

My peasant ancient king trader militia prepared for first crisis.

Cropped inventory part so it won't trigger butthurt poorfags.

Nice militia army.

My peasant gang ended with this battle:

Spoiler

3 militia groups including mine fighting the hordes of the undead. Battle was fun as hell. Not too often you get into these large brawls, but took too many casualties and the band had to be disbanded.

 

[Reinhardt]

Or you rely entirely on trade for money?

Yes. And when i'm bored i kill orkz.

 

[toro]

long post

Spoiler

This guy is fucked

Some skirmish in the woods.

Yeah, at least he didn't killed himself

Fights start to be interesting

Seems fair ... if the orcs were a starting company

Poor orc

Boring.

I waited 20 hours for this battle ... and I won The Lone Wolf was perfect against the necromancer. Forgot to screenshot during battle.

My Lone Wolf is complete

Entire company: 1 greatsword guy + 2 hammers + 3 flails + 6 polearms which basically it's a wall

The hardest fight was against some armored brigands (when I learned about the benefits of having a hammer guy in your team).

Unfortunately I did not find any special items but to be honest, I did not search too much for them.

 

[Murk]

Day 126 as Lone Wolf -- I am joined by a brawler and a squire. They will die soon, like the 14 others before them. I will cherish their friendship while it lasts.

 

[hivemind]

how does scaling work in lategame with single unit?

what types of enemies do you fight?

 

[Murk]

So far I am too hesitant to risk fighting more than 1 Unhold (and Schratts are right out). A single unhold I can indom + slug it out with effectively. Their regen is a pain in the ass but I can outdamage it. Same with Hexes or Alps, unless I want to risk a resolve-off (lost one Lone Wolf that way to 2 Hexes and some randos). If it's possible to get trinkets to resist the charm effect of Hexes, that could be doable pretty easily.

Otherwise all physical fights are fine. Archers (marksman and higher; especially with xbows) are a bigger threat than say Chosen, Orc Warriors, or Hedge Knights (unless there's like 20 of them at which point fatigue management is an issue).

A few fights with masses of raiders (two groups merged into 32, mostly thugs but about 10 raiders) I resorted to using multiple arming swords to riposte my way to victory (sword kept breaking so I'd swap to another and riposte).

Also a few times when shit got 2real I would resort to fleeing the fight than risk losing my character -- some close calls with nearly dying to archers while running.

I haven't reached a crisis yet and am pretty sure that I wont' be able to handle an orc or goblin capital unless I can kill a few -> retreat -> come back. Not sure if they respawn in that process.

Still, I have been on the lookout for some good bros to recruit but have had absolutely SHIT luck there with a few good backgrounds resulting in poor star placement. I am hoping I get the noble war but who knows, it's on random.

The strategy for any major fight I can't avoid is to try to lure other NPCs into it to soak up damage while I flank to their ranger characters. Those times where an event triggers giving me a volunteer/recruit I sometimes use to distract -- often I'll put a wardog on them and have them run around. The AI seems to prioritize attacking my weakest unit, which means if I send my chars in spread directions I can make an opening to exploit with my main dude.

Oh right and morale is my best weapon -- when surrounded, triggering morale breaks (have the wolf pelt armor to assist) with big hits is a huge bonus for a lot of enemies, and the free hits on fleeing enemies is huge (often helping snowball the morale break further). In many fights I'll often try to find a good spot that blocks archer sight and makes it so there are only 3ish hexes adjacent to me that they can attack from, not only to limit how many chances at damaging me the enemy gets but also to avoid the 2-fatigue loss at dodging melee attacks, which can realllly add up.

edit: spelling, I'm typing haphazardly while at work so I'm sure my writing is shit.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Young orcs seemed to do well against Thralls and Reavers.
Sadly that drummer got away and I still don't know what loot (if any) they drop.

 

[Reinhardt]

Actually necrosavants are pretty cool guys. They just teleporting around the map and smashing eggs.