Battlefield 1 - set in World War 1

[Endlösung]

Which a shame, because WWI was the last time France really shone on a strategic level. Even the Battle of the Marne, which we often picture as a hastily-mounted desperate counter-attack, was in fact a deliberate withdrawal and counter-offensive that played on all the German weaknesses.

Please, the only good thing the frogs did, was motorizing the massive arty ammunition supply, and even that didnt help em. Strategic army movement was irrelevant for one and one reason only, the reason WW1 played as it played - light, portable, fun machine guns. Changed everything. No matter how you move your armies, divisions, battalions, as soon as there is contact, machine guns stop everyone, even the dreaded Fahrradkompanie. There are countless examples of ze Germans being outnumbered and outgunned 2 to 1, 4 to 1, and more and the Allies not being able to make a dent into a frontline with all the ammo tonnage in the world. Reddit tier post on Reddit is Reddit tier. Dude is a retard. Telephone poles lol.

KWA didnt do shit either, war was completely lost in 1917 at Cambrai - 'Moral gegen Material' doesnt work.

Id also like to take this moment to shit on german command - senile, retarded, arrogant. If your notion of innovation after losing half a million souls to try a 5 waves attack instead of 3 on a 100 meter front instead of 1000 than you deserve to die in a fiery hell.

 

[pippin]

This is genius.

Now we can seal the deal and make the historical record show that America is solely responsible for winning WW1. Any Euros that try to argue against this are racist white supremacists trying to erase the black man's part of history. And also probably nazis.

Hopefully the next Battlefield can fix the unfortunate inaccuracy where the European war in Vietnam is mistakenly attributed to the USA, because as we all know America had nothing to do with it and said it was foolhardy from the start.

Yeah because everyone learns history by playing BF.

You would be surprised if you saw how many kids are learning stuff from games in general when it comes to history. I say this as an History teacher actually. So yes, spreading the lie that the Americans "won" WW1, just as they "won" WW2, has an effect on people.

 

[Average Manatee]

Hey now, USA definitely won WW2. Let's not joke about that.

 

[Irenaeus]

Hey now, USA definitely won WW2. Let's not joke about that.

Right?

 

[pippin]

No, ww2 was won by certain (((people))).

 

[Sodafish]

No, ww2 was won by certain (((people))).

:russia:

 

[Makabb]

USA is the only country in the world to drop a nuke on other country but it's ok since it was a freedom bomb and it ended the war, right ?

 

[Noxius]

It's gonna cater to the lowest common denominator.I wonder how they'll manage to slap in lockon launchers and noob friendly gadgets this time

DICEA made it clear that they wanted CoD's share since MW3.And were happy when bf3 managed to grab a good portion of it.Now it's only a matter of riding the train

 

[Morgoth]

Yes it did.

 

[an Administrator]

USA is the only country in the world to drop a nuke on other country but it's ok since it was a freedom bomb and it ended the war, right ?

yes

 

[Edward The Mediocre]

USA is the only country in the world to drop a nuke on other country but it's ok since it was a freedom bomb and it ended the war, right ?

Yes, if America had to resort to a land invasion it would be a major meat grinder for both sides. In fact not a single purple heart has been manufactured since 1945 because they expected that much bloodshed from invading japan. Also consider the fact that the tokyo firebombings resulted in just as many deaths each of the nuclear bombs did and yet they did not surrender.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

So you drop a nuke off the coast or at a small military target and then offer them a chance to surrender. If they don't then you drop a nuke on a city. The yanks didn't do that though, nope. They hopped right on over to dropping two of them on huge population centers.

Makes me wonder how amusing it'd be if the same brand of retards who claims that was justified were teleported to an alternate reality where the Germans won the war by nuking New York and Washington and they had to spend their time arguing against such brutal tactics with their alternate selves. Heh.

As for battlefield ONE? Fuck it. I have no interest in some soft-core military game which glorifies that which shouldn't be. Verdun, for all of its shittyness, was a better ww1 game than this will ever be.

 

[Edward The Mediocre]

A better choice in hindsight, however the generals and white house staff probably wanted to play it safe since if japan wasn't phased by a horrendous firebombing run at a major population, why would they be phased by a coast or a outpost bombing? Or at worse they just saw it as logical to bomb a city since they all ready did it before. Anyways I digress with the a-bomb shit.

I honestly I think there will be too many machine guns for my liking for WWI game, and I don't mean machine gun nests either, I mean they'll give you the option to get a smg or a lmg from the get go without a hard cap like Red Orchestra did.

 

[Average Manatee]

So you drop a nuke off the coast or at a small military target and then offer them a chance to surrender. If they don't then you drop a nuke on a city. The yanks didn't do that though, nope. They hopped right on over to dropping two of them on huge population centers.

What purpose would just dropping a big bomb and trying to scare them do? Do you think they wouldn't just dismiss it as propaganda, or ignore it even if they believed it? Japs didn't even surrender after being nuked once for fucks sake, it took a second nuke AND the USSR invading Manchuria AND they still refused to offer an unconditional surrender, being willing to fight on if the Emperor wasn't allowed to remain, AND the army attempted to coup the government and hold the Emperor hostage to force the war to go on, which very nearly succeeded and only failed because the war minister had already decided to seppuku himself.

Makes me wonder how amusing it'd be if the same brand of retards who claims that was justified were teleported to an alternate reality where the Germans won the war by nuking New York and Washington and they had to spend their time arguing against such brutal tactics with their alternate selves. Heh.

Focusing on nukes as some unimaginable evil is a red herring when you realize that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki rank as below-average performing attacks in terms of casualties compared to major firebombing attacks on other cities.

If you want to blame someone, blame Japan's completely fucking crazy leadership. A week before the atomic bomb dropped the overall plan could be summed up as "They know they'll take millions of casualties if they invade and the Americans are too pussy for that, they'll cut us a peace and we'll get to keep Korea and shit like nothing happened". All the while the whole island is being bombed, starved to death, worked to death, and displaced everywhere. But the Jap leadership didn't give a shit, they were completely dissociated from the suffering people and would have happily sacrificed huge amounts of their populace to gain marginally better surrender terms.

 

[Endlösung]

If you want to blame someone, blame Japan's completely fucking crazy leadership.

I'd like to blame all the nips. Confucianism fucked them in the head beyond repair. 10000 japs fought on Peleliu and virtually none of them surrendered. None. Shit like that is unbelievable. Banzaaaaaaaaaaaaaai!
Even today every slanteye is hopelessly retarded.

 

[WhiteGuts]

What purpose would just dropping a big bomb and trying to scare them do? Do you think they wouldn't just dismiss it as propaganda, or ignore it even if they believed it? Japs didn't even surrender after being nuked once for fucks sake, it took a second nuke AND the USSR invading Manchuria AND they still refused to offer an unconditional surrender, being willing to fight on if the Emperor wasn't allowed to remain, AND the army attempted to coup the government and hold the Emperor hostage to force the war to go on, which very nearly succeeded and only failed because the war minister had already decided to seppuku himself.

"...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing." - Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63.

"...the Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945...up to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; ...if such leads had been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs." - quoted by Barton Bernstein in Philip Nobile, ed., Judgment at the Smithsonian, pg. 142.

And the list goes on.

 

[Average Manatee]

"Prepared to negotiate" meaning "hey, just let us keep korea and manchuria and formosa and we'll be cool, kay?" Hitler also was prepared to negotiate on similar terms once the War in the East stalled out, guess we shouldn't have bombed Germany either.

But sure, trust some retarded post-facto conclusions derived from people who weren't there and have a message they want to push rather than actual letters from the Jap high command in charge of the country at the time.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I'd love to hear an explanation as to why dropping two atomic bombs on Japan is considered to be in a separate class from the massive conventional bombing campaign that killed a vastly larger number of people in aggregate.

Also, for the record, Japan's decision to surrender was a close-run thing even after the second atomic bomb. And US strategic planners estimated that American forces would incur 500,000 casualties in Operation Olympic to conquer Kyushu, which would be followed by Operation Coronet aimed at Tokyo. Japanese losses, both military and civilian, would be far higher, and of course in the meantime the war would have continued elsewhere in E/SE Asia, with not only military casualties but also many civilian deaths.

 

[Beastro]

USA is the only country in the world to drop a nuke on other country but it's ok since it was a freedom bomb and it ended the war, right ?

Because they didn't want to play a part in the Japanese mass suicide.

"Prepared to negotiate" meaning "hey, just let us keep korea and manchuria and formosa and we'll be cool, kay?" Hitler also was prepared to negotiate on similar terms once the War in the East stalled out, guess we shouldn't have bombed Germany either.

But sure, trust some retarded post-facto conclusions derived from people who weren't there and have a message they want to push rather than actual letters from the Jap high command in charge of the country at the time.

More like "Hey let's just bring everything back to the way it was before the war, yea you know, so we can rebuild and try this out in another generation. What??? You don't want that!? Then fuck you! Come at us bro, we don't mind going extinct so long as we can kill bleed you white- wait wait, wtf is this??? One bomber can take out and entire city and we can't hurt you at all? You mean we can't have our suicide fun! This isn't fair!!!"

At the end a good amount of the military preferred being nuked to extinction one by one than give up when even after they knew the game was up and the Emperor had won out they still did petty shit to completely devalue their currency to make the post-war as hard on their own people as possible.

And US strategic planners estimated that American forces would incur 500,000 casualties in Operation Olympic to conquer Kyushu, which would be followed by Operation Coronet aimed at Tokyo. Japanese losses, both military and civilian, would be far higher, and of course in the meantime the war would have continued elsewhere in E/SE Asia, with not only military casualties but also many civilian deaths.

The invasion had deep misgivings from the start and by the time the nukes were dropped it was practically cancelled. Blockade and Bombardment, beat and starve Japan into the 50s was the expected outcome.

The only person who wanted the invasion was MacArthur because his ego demanded he lead a glorious invasion to end the war while his staff continually ignored fresh information about Japanese defences to appease him.

Focusing on nukes as some unimaginable evil is a red herring when you realize that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki rank as below-average performing attacks in terms of casualties compared to major firebombing attacks on other cities.

The attacks on Japan as a whole are the Red Herring: Wtf are the people dying by the thousands daily on mainland Asia always fucking ignored by people? It's the most fucking racist thing of all, but I can understand the Japs doing it, because they only care about themselves and have never stopped doing that.

 

[Average Manatee]

The attacks on Japan as a whole are the Red Herring: Wtf are the people dying by the thousands daily on mainland Asia always fucking ignored by people? It's the most fucking racist thing of all, but I can understand the Japs doing it, because they only care about themselves and have never stopped doing that.

A lot of the post-war perception is colored by the fact that Japan quickly became the "good guys" vs. the Soviet and Communist China "bad guys". Criticizing or offending your closest ally in the region and probably the ally with the strongest war potential (after the fall of the British Empire) if the Cold War started getting Hot is a really fucking stupid idea. And for what? Scoring diplomatic points with a country whose soldiers you are directly fighting in North Korea?

Germany could have had the same situation had they only fucked up the evil red Russians rather than the always trustworthy and respectful Jewish people

 

[Morgoth]

Concept art:
http://imgur.com/a/Qhm25

 

[Makabb]

damn, if they can translate this into the final game it will be great

 

[Irenaeus]

I was expecting a joke

 

[sullynathan]

 

[Ivan]

this is going to be arcadey run and gun killstreak onl1n3 gaym yes?

not slower paced? e.g. insurgency