KickStarter BattleTech Pre-Release Thread

[Country_Gravy]

I just jizzed in my pants. Now I have to be at work for the rest of the day like this and then go home and clean up and try this out.

 

[Country_Gravy]

I think it has potential. It's rough around the edges but it could end up being a really good game. Hopefully they don't fuck it up.

 

[J_C]

I don't play betas, but

 

[Alienman]

From looking at the video it doesn't seem that bullets and rockets are actual projectiles

One mech took damage even if all the rockets fired right into a tree-line.

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

From looking at the video it doesn't seem that bullets and rockets are actual projectiles

One mech took damage even if all the rockets fired right into a tree-line.

Yeah, first thing I noticed, they only seem to be cosmetic effects with calculations done in the background. So no stray shots hitting something else, meh.

 

[ArchAngel]

From looking at the video it doesn't seem that bullets and rockets are actual projectiles

One mech took damage even if all the rockets fired right into a tree-line.

Yeah, first thing I noticed, they only seem to be cosmetic effects with calculations done in the background. So no stray shots hitting something else, meh.

Actually missed shot do hit other things (like buildings) and they blow them up. But that is all cosmetic.

What I watched of the game so far, it is hide in forest and camp gameplay. Game needs a easy way to put the forest on fire and do damage to mechs hiding there.

 

[Black]

Shameless plug- http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/mechwarrior-living-legends.113167/

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

I agree with Country_Gravy. Combat is ok-ish from what I've played so far, but this game still needs a lot of polish.

I imagine Battletech 2 or 3 will be decent, if they get there.

 

[ArchAngel]

I just want a fun campaign at this point. Don't care for Skirmish or MP.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

I pre-ordered for the Battletech fluff and single player campaign. I really hope the other parts of the game help elevate the combat experience.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

The foundation of a fun game is there, but as others have said a lot of work is still needed. Seems unlikely this will be released in a few months. AI is still rough, with certain easily-exploitable tactics - although will be interesting in multiplayer to see how the different things people have come up with work against each other. And stuff like movement ranges, melee damage and headshot probabilities need careful tuning.

Obviously there will be the usual debates over the changes they've made from TT rules. I think most can accept tweaks like giving ACs some more love (although laser boaters are obviously bleating about heat in the current build), but some other changes, while well-intentioned in terms of adding variety... may be a step too far for some. Eg: this budding megathread over the "magic rocks" (mineral deposits which boost damage received/dealt by energy weapons):

https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/7227?page=1

On the desert map the mineral deposits give you a buff to energy weapon damage, and cause you to take more energy weapon damage. This doesn't feel like Battletech, and it has no place in the game.
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Yes, i also couldn't believe it for a moment. This ranks in the same league as power-ups scattered on the battlefield. Doesn't make any sense neither lore-wise nor regarding real physics.

I have no idea how or why they came up with this, and I really hope they remove it from the game.

 

[thesheeep]

Obviously there will be the usual debates over the changes they've made from TT rules. I think most can accept tweaks like giving ACs some more love (although laser boaters are obviously bleating about heat in the current build), but some other changes, while well-intentioned in terms of adding variety... may be a step too far for some. Eg: this budding megathread over the "magic rocks" (mineral deposits which boost damage received/dealt by energy weapons):

https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/7227?page=1

On the desert map the mineral deposits give you a buff to energy weapon damage, and cause you to take more energy weapon damage. This doesn't feel like Battletech, and it has no place in the game.
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Yes, i also couldn't believe it for a moment. This ranks in the same league as power-ups scattered on the battlefield. Doesn't make any sense neither lore-wise nor regarding real physics.

I have no idea how or why they came up with this, and I really hope they remove it from the game.

Well, that does sound gamey as hell. And unfitting.
Hope it can be turned off, at least.

Then again, I usually don't care about MP so

 

[Black]

No reason to think it'll only be on MP maps. I'd expect more of this kind of thing in the entire campaign.

 

[ArchAngel]

No reason to think it'll only be on MP maps. I'd expect more of this kind of thing in the entire campaign.

And there should be. Fun > TT rules

 

[Black]

Energy minerals are as fun as exploding cars in Fallout.

 

[ArchAngel]

Energy minerals are as fun as exploding cars in Fallout.

Fun as in more tactical options. Maps should play a bigger role in combat, like they do in Xcom games.

 

[Black]

Oh yeah, nucom is clearly the way to go when making tactical squad based games.

 

[ArchAngel]

Oh yeah, nucom is clearly the way to go when making tactical squad based games.

Any Xcom game has more map options than current Battletech version.

 

[Trash]

Game needs a lot more polish. Feels like it misses out on tactical options as it is. It's also a bit plodding and slow at the moment.

If they want to add more options to the map than that shouldn't be too hard. Have certain buildings explode when taking damage. E.G. power stations, fuel stations. Should shake things up. Have a mech have a chance to become tangled when moving through buildings or pylons. Have a mech have a chance to get bogged, mired or stuck when going through mud or water. Give mechs a chance to lose footing and fall down on steep inclines. Have a chance for mechs to fall when going through forest. Have stuff that catches fire and adds heat to your mech like forests. Have different planet types have different effects like heat, cold, rain, acid, mud, slippery ice and so on. Have bunkers aid or attack the player. Add minefields, tank ditches and wire fences. Add support buildings where you can get a small ammo reload or repair buffer in your current mission when you admit a mech for a few turns. Add civilian traffic or crowds (protesters for instance. Remember MW: Mercenaries?) to bring maps more to life. Add options for off map artillery or aircraft/choppers to fire at an area of a map. Useable for both AI and player or even scripted or random. Just a few ideas. Really, you can do a lot without adding silly powerups.

 

[Jason Liang]

I watched the stream, it was hard to tell apart the different mech models. Also, it didn't really look much better than Shadowrun Returns

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

I watched the stream, it was hard to tell apart the different mech models.

This isn't really a problem when playing the game imo as you can zoom in and out. It helps that I also play MWO, which, as you may know, is where the models came from.

Also, it didn't really look much better than Shadowrun Returns

At the moment, yeah. This is pretty much why I said maybe Battletech 2 or 3 might be decent games. This game will need the other parts of the game to elevate both the combat and the game overall to make it decent.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

For those with the beta, what are your thoughts on the music?

I'm not a fan. This is way beneath MW2: Mercs music imo.

 

[veevoir]

I watched the stream, it was hard to tell apart the different mech models. Also, it didn't really look much better than Shadowrun Returns

ITT: People on codex worrying about the graphix.

How is the gameplay?!

 

[Country_Gravy]

I watched the stream, it was hard to tell apart the different mech models. Also, it didn't really look much better than Shadowrun Returns

ITT: People on codex worrying about the graphix.

How is the gameplay?!

It needs some tweaking. As stated before, it's mostly find cover and try not to overheat. There is a lot to like. I like the initiative system for turns and indirect fire from a missile boat in the back that can't be seen by the enemy mechs is cool. Destroying cover is badly needed imo.

I think once they have the full mech customization and the single player campaign, it could turn out to be quite nice. I just hope that they take user feedback and implement some changes before its finalized.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

Is there a reason I suck so much at this other than a need to git gud?