KickStarter BATTLETECH - turn-based mech combat from Harebrained Schemes

[MadMaxHellfire]

with roguetech i ragequit every other mission.

 

[Cael]

There is so little point in the HBS game without a campaign. What are you really doing? There is no end goal. Even the Flashpoints gave you SOMETHING to aim for. Roguetech and other mods seem pretty pointless as they are all PvE and the E is dumber than stumps. MekTek has better AI than the HBS game.

EDIT: Still one of the best scenes in the HBS game:

Medium laser to the face in an otherwise undamaged 'mech. Taking all the armour off the head to put into the torsos and then running it into the valley under the guns of the enemy paid off.

 

[Dadd]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

 

[Cael]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Only if you like repetitive busywork. Game's underlying mechanics is trash.

 

[Dadd]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Only if you like repetitive busywork. Game's underlying mechanics is trash.

That's too bad. I'd like to play a deep tactical mech game with much customization that isn't very old. Still would try it if I have the opportunity.

 

[gerey]

Roguetech could really use some sort of narrative, regardless of how basic and uninspired it might be, to give context to what you're doing. Don't know if it is even possible to mod a custom campaign into the game though.

 

[Cael]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Only if you like repetitive busywork. Game's underlying mechanics is trash.

That's too bad. I'd like to play a deep tactical mech game with much customization that isn't very old. Still would try it if I have the opportunity.

Get MekTek if you want a tactical mech game without a storyline. It is far better and far more challenging. And free.

 

[Parabalus]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Just skip the game entirely, it's trash.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Only if you like repetitive busywork. Game's underlying mechanics is trash.

That's too bad. I'd like to play a deep tactical mech game with much customization that isn't very old. Still would try it if I have the opportunity.

Get MekTek if you want a tactical mech game without a storyline. It is far better and far more challenging. And free.

Maybe I'm just too old but I can never get Mektek to work properly. Is there a guide I can read?

 

[Cael]

Is it advisable to skip the base game and start with Roguetech?

Only if you like repetitive busywork. Game's underlying mechanics is trash.

That's too bad. I'd like to play a deep tactical mech game with much customization that isn't very old. Still would try it if I have the opportunity.

Get MekTek if you want a tactical mech game without a storyline. It is far better and far more challenging. And free.

Maybe I'm just too old but I can never get Mektek to work properly. Is there a guide I can read?

I just downloaded it, fired it up and it works. You do need Java installed, though.

 

[Kouvo]

How does BTA compare to roguetech? I feel like playing this again, but unsure about which overhaul to pick.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Kouvo
https://old.reddit.com/r/Battletech...l_update_to_mods_overview_for_hbs_battletech/
basically, every other overhaul is either negligible or an inferior, incomplete roguetech.

 

[razvedchiki]

i have played a lot the extended campaign / mercenary mode and liked it very much. its quite lightweight considering pc requirements compared to roguetech/advanced, also has a stricter approach to advanced weaponry/systems/mechs ( ie lostech mechs/weapons either drop on rare specific missions, or as rewards in difficult flashpoints).
it also features era appropriate appereance of mechs/weapons and the full invasion of the clans, missions against the clans are the end game and are really difficult to pull off.

 

[warcrimes666]

Best to go all in on roguetech. I went at it again this past week myself and there was a time when it was incredibly clunky but that has mostly passed. They have an installer and you can tune the game as to how you'd like, if you want a basic experience you can just leave most of the additions unchecked and if you want to go whole hog you can add everything. Its a completely different game and they've implemented a 'season' mechanic with an online map you can sign up for which the current one will start again soon. Although if you have less than 16 gigs ram I would avoid it and go with advanced or extended, 32gigs is the sweet spot for decent performance. Its pretty glorious at this point with every mech, experimental and pirate tech, battle armors, superheavy's, vtols and tanks and so on.

 

[Gromoer]

I didn’t get into any of these overhauls because of their extreme autism and no learning curve provided. You are expected to be familiar with tons of new mechanics and equipment from the start. That and awful modders-made new models which break the game’s visual consistency.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

something must have gone horribly wrong with roguetech. it has always been slow, but damn, 10 full minutes to load (if it doesm't even freeze), almost 2 to change a map filter, going through menus is a pain.
and fuck, it even stopped working in borderless, the game is unplayable if you're not actually doing it while watching something else.

 

[Gromoer]

Career mode in this game is of the same quality as the rest of it. It’s almost super fun. You know, I really can’t remember any game that’d given me the same amount of “OH FUCK THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH FUN” feelings. It is almost there, but it just isn’t. Shame DLCs didn’t sell well — they were on the right track by introducing new gameplay mechanics such as urban combat, artillery, support systems, ballistics (or an imitation of). This game would have tremendously benefited from more details, more gameplay mechanics, more everything. Alas.

Also I kinda dislike the implementation of Ironman they have. It begs for it to be cheesed cause it only rewrites savegame upon exiting the game. Would have been MUCH better if it made saves after each turn and upon advancing time.

 

[Cael]

something must have gone horribly wrong with roguetech. it has always been slow, but damn, 10 full minutes to load (if it doesm't even freeze), almost 2 to change a map filter, going through menus is a pain.
and fuck, it even stopped working in borderless, the game is unplayable if you're not actually doing it while watching something else.

Let's see... From the Roguetech wiki:

"Storage: 35GB Base BT Installation + 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) Mod Installation. Additional 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) for launcher cache workspace required on any other storage."

Gee... I wonder why...

 

[ERYFKRAD]

something must have gone horribly wrong with roguetech. it has always been slow, but damn, 10 full minutes to load (if it doesm't even freeze), almost 2 to change a map filter, going through menus is a pain.
and fuck, it even stopped working in borderless, the game is unplayable if you're not actually doing it while watching something else.

Let's see... From the Roguetech wiki:

"Storage: 35GB Base BT Installation + 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) Mod Installation. Additional 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) for launcher cache workspace required on any other storage."

Gee... I wonder why...

Bruh I think he's storing the actual mechs in the hard drive.

 

[Cael]

something must have gone horribly wrong with roguetech. it has always been slow, but damn, 10 full minutes to load (if it doesm't even freeze), almost 2 to change a map filter, going through menus is a pain.
and fuck, it even stopped working in borderless, the game is unplayable if you're not actually doing it while watching something else.

Let's see... From the Roguetech wiki:

"Storage: 35GB Base BT Installation + 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) Mod Installation. Additional 25GB (at least... it's constantly growing) for launcher cache workspace required on any other storage."

Gee... I wonder why...

Bruh I think he's storing the actual mechs in the hard drive.

So, crypto-mech mining, eh?

 

[Gromoer]

I’m having fun actually. Especially when fighting lances of matching or bigger tonnage. The last one was a total shitshow. I opened up quite nicely flanking a Crab and fucking it good in the rear, but things got grim as soon as his friends appeared. Vindicator and Griffin along with three annoying light mechs all targeting my lance leader in a Blackjack. Managed to drill a hole in the Griffin’s back while flying around on jumpjets like a madman all that while on the extreme heat levels making a shot of hope before shutting down. Unfortunately I’ve got a very unfortunate PPC in the face and died.

 

[Jason Liang]

Vindicator + Griffin is a lot of PPCs :/

 

[Nathaniel3W]

I’m having fun actually. Especially when fighting lances of matching or bigger tonnage. The last one was a total shitshow. I opened up quite nicely flanking a Crab and fucking it good in the rear, but things got grim as soon as his friends appeared. Vindicator and Griffin along with three annoying light mechs all targeting my lance leader in a Blackjack. Managed to drill a hole in the Griffin’s back while flying around on jumpjets like a madman all that while on the extreme heat levels making a shot of hope before shutting down. Unfortunately I’ve got a very unfortunate PPC in the face and died.

Is this in vanilla? Was it a random mission? I think I ditched my Blackjack very early in the game, certainly long before I had to face a Crab.

I should give this game another try with Roguetech. It might be fun to experiment with different mechs instead of using my four heaviest on every mission.

Edit: Also, it felt kind of cheap for the game to put me up against "poorly maintained" mechs on every mission. Yeah, my lance of four is destroying twenty or more enemy mechs, which makes me feel cool, but none of the enemy mechs had any armor on.

 

[Gromoer]

I’m having fun actually. Especially when fighting lances of matching or bigger tonnage. The last one was a total shitshow. I opened up quite nicely flanking a Crab and fucking it good in the rear, but things got grim as soon as his friends appeared. Vindicator and Griffin along with three annoying light mechs all targeting my lance leader in a Blackjack. Managed to drill a hole in the Griffin’s back while flying around on jumpjets like a madman all that while on the extreme heat levels making a shot of hope before shutting down. Unfortunately I’ve got a very unfortunate PPC in the face and died.

Is this in vanilla? Was it a random mission? I think I ditched my Blackjack very early in the game, certainly long before I had to face a Crab.

I should give this game another try with Roguetech. It might be fun to experiment with different mechs instead of using my four heaviest on every mission.

Edit: Also, it felt kind of cheap for the game to put me up against "poorly maintained" mechs on every mission. Yeah, my lance of four is destroying twenty or more enemy mechs, which makes me feel cool, but none of the enemy mechs had any armor on.

Yeah vanilla, one of the random missions in the career mode. But the map was pretty cleverly done with a big obstacle in the middle, so it was beneficial to always maneuver excluding part of the enemies from the combat.
I kinda didn’t acknowledge the difficulty levels of planets at first and mostly traveled blindly, probably that’s why some missions were a total disaster for me.
I’ve opted for 4 parts to assemble a mech in difficulty settings, so a new mech is a pretty rare thing.

 

[Cael]

I’m having fun actually. Especially when fighting lances of matching or bigger tonnage. The last one was a total shitshow. I opened up quite nicely flanking a Crab and fucking it good in the rear, but things got grim as soon as his friends appeared. Vindicator and Griffin along with three annoying light mechs all targeting my lance leader in a Blackjack. Managed to drill a hole in the Griffin’s back while flying around on jumpjets like a madman all that while on the extreme heat levels making a shot of hope before shutting down. Unfortunately I’ve got a very unfortunate PPC in the face and died.

Roguetech has powerful heat producing weapons really early, unlike the vanilla game, from what I can see of Let's Plays. Also, the effects of heat is much more extreme (e.g., going unsteady instantly). I'd equip and use them.