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[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

Heavier objects fall faster.
a=F/m=(mg+Ffr)/m=g+Ffr/m, where Ffr is the friction force. Thus, out of two objects with the same friction, the heavier will fall faster.
In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

So what you're saying is, if Volourn and a 700 pound elephant were to jump off the leaning tower of piza, Volourn would land first?

R00fles!

No. He's full of hot air.

 

[Relien]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... pic=585112

This was said in the context of the RPG of the year:

Okay - Oblivion has it's own flaws (no game can be perfect) but they are minor (ie - repetitive combat and not enough variety of monsters)

After playing NWN 2 (even with it's giddying array of stats and spells) - i just couldn't accept the bland graphics - (not even a decent sky or water effects etc) and the clumsy control method that just took away from the immersion that Oblivion can offer.

 

[galsiah]

In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

But heavier objects will still hit the ground sooner (or rather the ground will hit them). Newton's third law and all that.

 

[Data4]

Holy shit, someone get me a fucking valium...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... &p=8504071

-D4

 

[spacemoose]

In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

But heavier objects will still hit the ground sooner (or rather the ground will hit them). Newton's third law and all that.

you might want to think about that some more

 

[KreideBein]

Holy shit, someone get me a fucking valium...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... &p=8504071

-D4

Argh, one more reason to hate Grumftheld. The definition he tries to attribute to RPGs is so open that pretty much anything can be considered an RPG.

 

[Data4]

Holy shit, someone get me a fucking valium...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... &p=8504071

-D4

Argh, one more reason to hate Grumftheld. The definition he tries to attribute to RPGs is so open that pretty much anything can be considered an RPG.

I tried my best to respond to that cleveland steamer of a post... I know it's for naught, but dammit... there's a principle at stake here!

-D4

 

[KreideBein]

Holy shit, someone get me a fucking valium...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... &p=8504071

-D4

Argh, one more reason to hate Grumftheld. The definition he tries to attribute to RPGs is so open that pretty much anything can be considered an RPG.

I tried my best to respond to that cleveland steamer of a post... I know it's for naught, but dammit... there's a principle at stake here!

-D4

I'll bet you $100 that he'll try to use the "Well that's your opinion" line next. He, along with most of the other posters on that forum, is stuck in a bizarre relativistic world.

 

[Romanian_Dude2005]

I gaved it a shot it too, I read his post 3 times and still couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying except that Oblivion has chooices. I also used some quotes from VD's review, I hope he doesn't mind... oh and atleast I know now who D4 is

 

[Lumpy]

In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

But heavier objects will still hit the ground sooner (or rather the ground will hit them). Newton's third law and all that.

you might want to think about that some more

No, he's right. The acceleration of the object is constant, but the acceleration of the planet towards the object is bigger, the heavier the object.

 

[JrK]

The force is GMm/r^2. In both cases:

GMm/r^2 = m (d^2x/dt^2) so:
GM/r^2 = (d^2x/dt^2)

As you can see the mass dependance of the attracted object falls out. The Attracting's object's mass, however, does not. So in this case, the 'heavier' object attracts earth more than the 'lighter' object.

 

[Monica21]

Holy shit, someone get me a fucking valium...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... &p=8504071

-D4

There's no way to win an argument with someone who thinks RPG = Make Believe. Which is, unfortunately, what the majority of Oblivion players seem to think.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

The force is GMm/r^2. In both cases:

GMm/r^2 = m (d^2x/dt^2) so:
GM/r^2 = (d^2x/dt^2)

As you can see the mass dependance of the attracted object falls out. The Attracting's object's mass, however, does not. So in this case, the 'heavier' object attracts earth more than the 'lighter' object.

Talking about mathematical equations does not make this the Best Thread Everâ„¢.

 

[galsiah]

In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

But heavier objects will still hit the ground sooner (or rather the ground will hit them). Newton's third law and all that.

you might want to think about that some more

No, he's right. The acceleration of the object is constant, but the acceleration of the planet towards the object is bigger, the heavier the object.

I'm right if the mass of the earth is assumed constant in both cases.
I'm not right if the lighter/heavier objects are also part of the earth when testing the heavier/lighter objects.

Presumably that's what Spacemoose means. Assuming constant mass of the entire system (which I wasn't, but perhaps it makes sense), the objects will collide sooner the higher the difference in mass (in void). I.e. the lighter one hits first. [EDIT: nonsense - they'll collide at the same time. Funny old world.]

If my thinking is flawed, that's because I'm not doing much of it .

 

[Lumpy]

In void, though, all objects fall at the same speed.

But heavier objects will still hit the ground sooner (or rather the ground will hit them). Newton's third law and all that.

you might want to think about that some more

No, he's right. The acceleration of the object is constant, but the acceleration of the planet towards the object is bigger, the heavier the object.

I'm right if the mass of the earth is assumed constant in both cases.
I'm not right if the lighter/heavier objects are also part of the earth when testing the heavier/lighter objects.

Presumably that's what Spacemoose means. Assuming constant mass of the entire system (which I wasn't, but perhaps it makes sense), the objects will collide sooner the higher the difference in mass (in void). I.e. the lighter one hits first.

If my thinking is flawed, that's because I'm not doing much of it .

M is always greater than -m1-m2, obviously. If m1 is greater than m2, then M(m1-m2)>(m2-m1)(m2+m1), thus Mm1-Mm2>m2^2 - m1^2. m1(m1)=m2(m2), thus m1g/(M+m2)>m2g/(M+m1), so a1>a2.
Thus, the heavier object will hit the ground earlier, even if the other object is on the ground.

 

[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... pic=585854

A sad, sad thread.

 

[KreideBein]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=585854

A sad, sad thread.

Is it just me, or is Nick trying to establish himself as the most massively retarded person on the ESF? His posts are all horrifically content-free advertisements for Oblivion. I'm surprised that Darkflame's latest troll was banned while Nick is still around posting his tripe.

 

[galsiah]

m1g/(M+m2)>m2g/(M+m1)

Yes

so a1>a2.

No.

a1 = G(M+m2)/r^2

So you'd need to show that:
M+m2 > M+m1
=> G(M+m2)/r^2 > G(M+m1)/r^2
=> a1 > a2


However from the assumption that m1 > m2, it's trivially true that M+m1 > M+m2.

The heavier object actually accelerates more slowly in a vacuum. This is what you'd expect, since its mass cancels, and the world is lighter (since you've removed a heavy object).

They'll still hit at the same time though, since the heavier object pulls the world towards it slightly more quickly than the lighter object.

In both cases you end up with a total acceleration of: G(M+m2+m1)/r^2

Either as: G(M+m2)/r^2 + Gm1/r^2
Or as: G(M+m1)/r^2 + Gm2/r^2
[always assuming the same total mass]

I still think the lighter object ought to hit first (assuming fixed mass of the system), but the laws of physics tend to imply otherwise. Who can say which is right .


NB: you should use G rather than g if you're using the mass of the earth in the calculation. G is the fundamental constant. g is only used when you want the mass of the earth already factored in - not true when you're considering it as a variable.

 

[Romanian_Dude2005]

BEST.TROLL.EVER.

thumbsup to however the fuck is Dorio

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (printed)

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (original thread) probably will get deleted in 3 minutes, in which case refer to the link above

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (2nd printed version) Wow! It survived more then expected, I guess Summer is finaly getting some sleep for a change

 

[Monica21]

Is it just me, or is Nick trying to establish himself as the most massively retarded person on the ESF?

Could be. There's this little gem:

Remember at the end when Martin had no choice but to shatter the amulet of kings and transform into the dragon and fight Mehrunes? Well he sacrificed himself to save the entire empire, just like Jesus died for our sins on the cross.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

BEST.TROLL.EVER.

thumbsup to however the fuck is Dorio

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (printed)

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (original thread) probably will get deleted in 3 minutes, in which case refer to the link above

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (2nd printed version) Wow! It survived more then expected, I guess Summer is finaly getting some sleep for a change

Damn! I was too late. Summer's built-in brain chip must've woke her up so that she could delete it!

 

[KreideBein]

BEST.TROLL.EVER.

thumbsup to however the fuck is Dorio

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (printed)

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (original thread) probably will get deleted in 3 minutes, in which case refer to the link above

The phylosofy behind Oblivion (2nd printed version) Wow! It survived more then expected, I guess Summer is finaly getting some sleep for a change

Damn! I was too late. Summer's built-in brain chip must've woke her up so that she could delete it!

So those were actual threads, and not just a way for Romanian_Dude2005 to Vaan us? If the former, what was in the thread?

Could be. There's this little gem:

Remember at the end when Martin had no choice but to shatter the amulet of kings and transform into the dragon and fight Mehrunes? Well he sacrificed himself to save the entire empire, just like Jesus died for our sins on the cross.

Dear God. He's either a moron or he's twelve years old. Or maybe both. Whatever the case, he should be kept away from all computers for the good of society.

 

[JrK]

Or he's a troll. Great way to upset everyone.

 

[Ahzaruuk]

Or he's a troll. Great way to upset everyone.

He was already told by summer to stop spamming on one occasion.


EDIT: http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/inde ... pic=585994

Seriously...What the fuck?

 

[Thrawn05]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=585758