Incline Bhaalspawn saga fan club

[Ontopoly]

I'm no longer a fan of the Baldur's Gate series. From now on I can only consider myself a fan of the bhaalspawn saga. What's everyone's favorite thing about the saga? The combat, the writing, it's all good, but what's your favorite?

 

[ga♥]

BG1 and BG2 were in an era when disabled people, children, and the elderly were despised (rightly so). Hence, they went for RTwP which requires a bit of attention span, reflexes, and having not too many chromosomes.

People seem to forgot that PNP being turn based was a necessity and the aim was to simulate real life wich is not turn based.

BG1/2 combat was fun.

Sadly, now being the current year and all, they need to gather to the disabled and the console user.

 

[Reality]

I threw my BG 2 manual away because I decided that I was too addicted to reading it and had to so for my health. This was before installation of course.

 

[Ontopoly]

I decided to quote myself because I feel this is more relevant in this thread

I'm a huge bg2 fan, it's my favorite game. BG2 and age of empires 2 are the two games that I'm passionate about because they not only gave me a ton of enjoyment but they also led me to play other games similar. People may call that nostalgia but both games still have tons of fans today and are still getting things like spiritual sequels or definitive editions so it can't all be nostalgia. Maybe graphics don't stand the test of time but if a game is good it's good and bad graphics won't hold it back. I feel like we have a bunch of people that see these great games and judge them as bad just because they look outdated. Mechanics and writing stand the test of time, human minds aren't becoming that enlightened over time that mechanics just become trash in a 20 year gap. Mechanics are just math, and math still works the same way 20 years later. There's a lot of people that won't even touch old games and that's pretty disappointing to me because once you get past the graphics it's a normal game underneath.

I still remember everyone discussing BG and the great spells that can only be used in combat and how great mage vs mage battles were. I remember everyone planning builds. I remember people trying to solo or Beat the game in interesting ways. I remember people trying out a ton of new builds. Or sharing their builds. Or getting excited over new equipment or items. I remember people sharing strategies for fights and sharing interesting ways to combo spells. I remember people asking a ton of questions on the forum about combat mechanics and game rules instead of just playing on easy mode and ignoring it all. I can't be the only one who sees a contradiction between all those things existing in a game with bad combat. These are all hallmarks of a game with great combat.

 

[Dramart]

BG1 and BG2 were in an era when disabled people, children, and the elderly were despised (rightly so). Hence, they went for RTwP which requires a bit of attention span, reflexes, and having not too many chromosomes.

People seem to forgot that PNP being turn based was a necessity and the aim was to simulate real life wich is not turn based.

BG1/2 combat was fun.

Sadly, now being the current year and all, they need to gather to the disabled and the console user.

I've heard people in BG3 presentation who said they loved what they saw, and they seemed pretty disabled to me, you are too. And TB sure it requires reflexes. Why did you find BG combat fun? Is was because it didn't require intelligence?

 

[Comte]

I love fucking Edwins boy pussy with my male Balespawn.

 

[Ontopoly]

I remember Jaheira being a real one. She's top romance material. She sticks with you through the events of all the games and even abandoned the Harper's for you. That's the type of love we all need in life. She sticks by you and defends you.

 

[Dramart]

I remember Jaheira being a real one. She's top romance material. She sticks with you through the events of all the games and even abandoned the Harper's for you. That's the type of love we all need in life. She sticks by you and defends you.

You know nothing young padawan. Imoen is the best girl.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You're all plebs.

The best romance is this.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

I absolutely loved The Watcher's Keep.

 

[barghwata]

RTwP which requires a bit of attention span, reflexes

What is it with this "TB is casual and RTwP is hardcore" narrative that BG fanboys have been pushing lately? i mean what the hell do you mean by "reflexes"? you can pause the game and think for as long as you need for god's sake, not to mention Party AI and behavioural presets that can play the game for you when fighting weaker enemies and the ability to cancel actions while they're underway in case you fuck up (which you can't do in TB so you're forced to think ahead).

As for baldur's gate, i only ever needed to stop and think when fighting bosses... everything else was a snoozfest, on the other hand TB games like KoTC and JA2 kept me focusing the entire time. I am not saying RTwP combat systems are inherently bad or inferior, i am just saying there aren't many example of great ones; the only one i know of is high calibre 7.62, everything else is mediocre at best.

 

[NJClaw]

So wait, you were a fan of the Dark Alliance games? Cool

 

[Falksi]

God BG1 & 2 were SO good.

BG3 is gonna fucking ruin all that with Divinity of Shitness

 

[Verylittlefishes]

God BG1 & 2 were SO good.

BG3 is gonna fucking ruin all that with Divinity of Shitness

Actually the plot could be good, with all this Illithid stuff. But as we all know, plot never was substantial for this saga...

 

[Infinitron]

Bhaalspawn Saga

This is now a Siege of Dragonspear thread.

 

[Ontopoly]

Bhaalspawn Saga

This is now a Siege of Dragonspear thread.

Wait. Fuck. There's too many layers I didn't even think of. I don't even know what I am. I need help.

 

[Sykar]

You're all plebs.

The best romance is this.

I wanted to romance Bodhi! I heard the rumor that it is elvish for booty!

Dat complexion is so säksy!

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Bhaalspawn Saga

This is now a Siege of Dragonspear thread.

It is this transsexual Irenicus Origins DLC?

 

[Morkar Left]

Dude the new game isn't even released...

 

[GhostCow]

I remember Jaheira being a real one. She's top romance material. She sticks with you through the events of all the games and even abandoned the Harper's for you. That's the type of love we all need in life. She sticks by you and defends you.

This is the first thing you've said I disagree with. I hate that bitch. Along with Jan, Nalia, Aerie, Anomen, Minsc, and Valygar. It's also lame that best girl Mazzy wasn't a romance option. I never realized that I hate half the cast until I typed that out. Maybe Bioware's writing wasn't top tier after all. I loved the combat though. D&D spells can be so much fun. Nothing feels better than destroying a huge group of trash mobs with a single fireball. Running around with haste is fun too.

 

[Ontopoly]

I remember Jaheira being a real one. She's top romance material. She sticks with you through the events of all the games and even abandoned the Harper's for you. That's the type of love we all need in life. She sticks by you and defends you.

This is the first thing you've said I disagree with. I hate that bitch. Along with Jan, Nalia, Aerie, Anomen, Minsc, and Valygar. It's also lame that best girl Mazzy wasn't a romance option. I never realized that I hate half the cast until I typed that out. Maybe Bioware's writing wasn't top tier after all. I loved the combat though. D&D spells can be so much fun. Nothing feels better than destroying a huge group of trash mobs with a single fireball. Running around with haste is fun too.

Mazzy is amazing I agree and I'll always have her on my team but sometimes your feelings aren't reciprocated and you have to move on. Jaheira is the best girl because she will actually return your feelings.

 

[Dramart]

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You're all plebs.

The best romance is this.

I wanted to romance Bodhi! I heard the rumor that it is elvish for booty!

Dat complexion is so säksy!

She looks like she hasn't taken a shower since she became a vampire.

 

[NJClaw]

I remember Jaheira being a real one. She's top romance material. She sticks with you through the events of all the games and even abandoned the Harper's for you. That's the type of love we all need in life. She sticks by you and defends you.

I like Jaheira, but she is a whore. Her romance feels like your aunt having sex with you while your uncle's dead body is still warm in the next room.

 

[NJClaw]

It's nice to see that Mazzy is liked by many, she is a cool companion and I have always loved her party banter

 

[Dramart]

Why don't you like Imoen? Are you gay?

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