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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

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Gamedev generally is like that, but there are better places.
Better how? Maybe to someone who's passionate about shooters they'd be just as happy putting out the next doom, ut, battlefield or whatever.

The CDPR devs who could do better elsewhere but were putting up with the sacrifices required because they were passionate about the kind of games CDPR made are not gonna feel the same way about bringing to life Todd's next little Retardolandia, Ubisoft's next collectible neurectomy or Biobsidian's next racist freakshow. Inxile and the Disco Elysium guys are the only other ones not putting out abhorrent crap in their games but those are hardly comparable experiences to cdpr's games.

Closest fit would be warhorse.
 
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flyingjohn

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Gamedev generally is like that, but there are better places.
Better how? Maybe to someone who's passionate about shooters they'd be just as happy putting out the next doom, ut, battlefield or whatever.

The CDPR devs who could do better elsewhere but were putting up with the sacrifices required because they were passionate about the kind of games CDPR made are not gonna feel the same way about bringing to life Todd's next little Retardolandia, Ubisoft's next collectible neurectomy or Biobsidian's next racist freakshow. Inxile and the Disco Elysium guys are the only other ones not putting out abhorrent crap in their games but those are hardly comparable experiences to cdpr's games.

Closest fit would be warhorse.
Passion,bwahahahah.

They have no choice.They aren't competent enough to be hired for senior jobs and are too expensive to be hired for junior jobs.
Those that left are just changing one crunch for another.
So they either crunch or clean toilets at potato McDonald's.
 

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Yeah, but why would they work for CDP? Judging from what I gathered over the years it's a shitty place to work at.

I don't understand why anyone would work for any large, specially AAA, vidya company. Years and years of verified horror stories don't seem to deter them, so I can only guess they're idiots who "follow their passion" or they're not good enough to be hired anywhere else. For a software developer/engineer worth a damn, working at a vidya company is probably the worst choice you can make, both financially and in terms of job satisfaction (unless you get hired into a senior position straight away, not sure about that).

You're also surrounded by a metric boatload of people of who are at your level of knowledge or better, making you entirely expendable, unlike working software dev for a company that itself has nothing to do with software, where you're often treated like minor royalty.
 

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Yeah, but why would they work for CDP? Judging from what I gathered over the years it's a shitty place to work at.

I don't understand why anyone would work for any large, specially AAA, vidya company. Years and years of verified horror stories don't seem to deter them, so I can only guess they're idiots who "follow their passion" or they're not good enough to be hired anywhere else. For a software developer/engineer worth a damn, working at a vidya company is probably the worst choice you can make, both financially and in terms of job satisfaction (unless you get hired into a senior position straight away, not sure about that).

You're also surrounded by a metric boatload of people of who are at your level of knowledge or better, making you entirely expendable, unlike working software dev for a company that itself has nothing to do with software, where you're often treated like minor royalty.
Cause they got no choice.
It College grads that know jack shit can:
-Either try to get into proper it stuff like banks and big corps,which they have no chance unless they have good contacts and good knowledge
-Try to do web shit and get told they are overqualified(too expensive)
-Solo freelance work and realize how hard is it to manage your own business
Vidya is their only choice and they love the prospect of working on games.The biggest scouts that require almost zero knowledge on campuses are vidya scouts.
Everybody else is looking for talent.
 

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toro

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Do some systems programming. Gamedev is the bottom of the barrel, worse than webdev.

System programming requires C and it's not exclusive with gamedev: you can design a game engine as a OS (in fact most engines do that).
 

Twiglard

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What kind of kernel does Unity run on?

He probably means a portability layer. VFS, shader preprocessor, abstractions made out of #ifdefs. Every cross-platform project comes with one.

I found C++ more usable for systems programming due to zero-cost units of measure (think file descriptors) and RAII.

As an actual OS? Unless it's an equivalent of MSDOS on SVGA, that's fucking preposterous.
 
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Pics below. Hopefully not too big.

Okay. So I've nabbed and played Cyberpunk 2077 for around, hmmm, 31 hours now.

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I like it, once you get to Act 2, and the world can be driven around in. Shooting goons up and just vibin' while scootin' around with the a, it's fine.

Story wise, it does feel deep, but I fear it's all gonna ring hollow. Losing yourself, being subsumed, maybe even tying it to dementia and alzhemiers and all that, that hits me personally, but I dunno. And the Anti-Corpo talk is laughable. Like, Johnny, you lost this fight before you were even born, much less V.

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Lots of bugs. let me preface this with, I don't really get bugs. I get crashes, sure. But even Fallout New Vegas would crash, or a save would fail. And it's not like every single minute of CB2077 is bug laden. Just that they happen frequently and they're noticeable but nothing that breaks the game. I try to parkour a lot on foot, so I often get flung dozens of meters due to some map collision or mesh collision or whatever. Funny most of the time. Broken stretched out bodies. A few lines of dialogue got skipped in a quest once.

But nothing major.

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Honestly I just want more to do in the city than kill gangbangers. It's fun. But CB2077 should dig into it and flesh out the world more. Right now it's kill, scoot, sell, scoot, kill, etc.... It's a fine pastime, but it could be more. I want more corporate espionage and movement. I want more nomad politics. Hell, I want more shit outside of NC, and inside of it, too. Half the map is empty (I include the BIotechnica flats for this) and underutilized.

Also can they turn down the fucking bloom? Fuck. Look at this LOOK AT IT THE SUN IS A FUCKING ONGOING NUCLEAR BOMB - I mean, it IS, but it's a small circular one if you've ever stared at it, not 500km from Earth itself. You can see it in the first pic too, the hell

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And it would be nice if the stores had double their stock. Can't find a look readily well.



Add: more dialogue would be nice, too. Even little things like a proper goodbye to storekeeps. 2077 NC might be a shitty hellhole and V might be an ass but still.
 
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I don't understand why anyone would work for any large, specially AAA, vidya company. Years and years of verified horror stories don't seem to deter them, so I can only guess they're idiots who "follow their passion" or they're not good enough to be hired anywhere else. For a software developer/engineer worth a damn, working at a vidya company is probably the worst choice you can make, both financially and in terms of job satisfaction (unless you get hired into a senior position straight away, not sure about that).

You're also surrounded by a metric boatload of people of who are at your level of knowledge or better, making you entirely expendable, unlike working software dev for a company that itself has nothing to do with software, where you're often treated like minor royalty.
To be honest, I'm not quite sure why people think that modders are jobless who're looking for some video game company attention to get hired.

Most of them are doing shit because they can and have some free time on their hands.

And most of them are already employed and probably have a warmer place to sit on rather than working in gamedev for pollacks.
 

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Bitch needs to ditch the dredds and wash her dirty ass hair. Blonde/blue eyed, fair skinned C-cup with no tats. Why is this so difficult, people?

Excellent. Now do bewbs
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/1530

I've moved on from CP, but it's nice to see a busy modding community, even if it's nearly all cosmetics for waifus.

Still no mod to bulk-upgrade components for perk.
 

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I actually reported a bug to CD project red that my V was only really naked in the inventory and character creation screen but wore pants in first person and during cutscenes. This was their response:

CD Projekt said:
Hi,

Thank you for contacting us.

Nudity is censored outside of the inventory and character creation.
This is not a bug. V always have underwear in FPP and Photo Mode and every other case outside of the inventory menu.
Thank you for your feedback though.

Kind regards
<censored>

I am very confused by this response. Who in their right mind would integrate nudity into a game in this half-arsed way? It can't be for modesty reasons because there is one cut scene in the game where you can see a vagina quite clearly. Did they think it would be too much effort because they would have to make the penis jiggle when jumping or something? Very weird decision and I hope some kind modder fixes this. Nudity is of course not that important but if any a game ever needed it, it would be Cyberpunk.
 

Fedora Master

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I actually reported a bug to CD project red that my V was only really naked in the inventory and character creation screen but wore pants in first person and during cutscenes. This was their response:

CD Projekt said:
Hi,

Thank you for contacting us.

Nudity is censored outside of the inventory and character creation.
This is not a bug. V always have underwear in FPP and Photo Mode and every other case outside of the inventory menu.
Thank you for your feedback though.

Kind regards
<censored>

I am very confused by this response. Who in their right mind would integrate nudity into a game in this half-arsed way? It can't be for modesty reasons because there is one cut scene in the game where you can see a vagina quite clearly. Did they think it would be too much effort because they would have to make the penis jiggle when jumping or something? Very weird decision and I hope some kind modder fixes this. Nudity is of course not that important but if any a game ever needed it, it would be Cyberpunk.

The entire nudity thing was only to get brownie points with the socjuice crowd.
 

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I thought the game looked worse and worse the more I heard/saw of it before it was even released. That seems to be continuing even after release as I have found the game is full of "children" that that look like mutated, deformed, dwarfs.
 

undecaf

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I like it, ... the world can be driven around in. Shooting goons up and just vibin' while scootin' around with the a, it's fine.

You’ll get over it once you start noticing that’s all there is to the game with little variety.

No need to thank me, these words of comfort come for free.
 

Twiglard

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The entire nudity thing was only to get brownie points with the socjuice crowd.

Was it? I thought the Social Justice crowd is super prude and hates nudity of all forms.

They only hate normal, good-looking people being naked. They absolutely love ugly, obese degenerates making others uncomfortable.
 

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