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Some day MCA and Obsidian will make up, and Obsidian will merge with inXile to form a superstudio.

It'll be like Black Isle but better. Their own IPs will come thick and fast. Avellone will get a game. Ziets will get a game. McComb will get a game. Everyone will get a game.

I want to believe.
Also:

Godus will be made great again. Inspired by its success Molyneux delivers a successor to Populous that far exceeds any god/civ/sim game made ever, only to be surpassed by Alpha Centauri II a year later.
Roberts will deliver the greatest space opera of all time, Star Citizen
The newest Bioware game has a cadre of companions whose sexual orientation plays no role in the game and none of which are romancable. Tumblr reacts calling it a disturbing but healthy lesson that diversity includes also tolerating ideas you find uncomfortable.

Amiga will rise again, and surpass Apple as the go-to computer for graphic designers.
Soy latte will actually taste good.

No man's sky will still be shite.
 

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Also, I think both Fargo and Feargus dream of going out like the BioWare docs. Make the studio grow enough to be sold for a fortune, then retire from the industry.

Feargus maybe, but Fargo's already a millionaire who had a huge payday when Interplay went public, what's he going to do with more millions?
 

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Also, I think both Fargo and Feargus dream of going out like the BioWare docs. Make the studio grow enough to be sold for a fortune, then retire from the industry.

Feargus maybe, but Fargo's already a millionaire who had a huge payday when Interplay went public, what's he going to do with more millions?
Interplay also owed him millions that he wrote off, and you need more millions if you want to keep that lifestyle for you and your children. And If he didn't care about money, he wouldn't be trying so hard to make InXile games appeal to console gamers.
 
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Interplay also owed him millions that he wrote off, and you need more millions if you want to keep that lifestyle for you and your children. And If he didn't care about money, he wouldn't be trying so hard to make InXile games appeal to console gamers.

He's been doing well enough for himself in the time between the sinking of Interplay and now, could even afford three divorces.

Sure, he likes money, but he doesn't come across as the "retire and laze all day every day" type.
 

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Interplay also owed him millions that he wrote off, and you need more millions if you want to keep that lifestyle for you and your children. And If he didn't care about money, he wouldn't be trying so hard to make InXile games appeal to console gamers.

He's been doing well enough for himself in the time between the sinking of Interplay and now, could even afford three divorces.

Sure, he likes money, but he doesn't come across as the "retire and laze all day every day" type.
But that's not what the docs are doing. Muzyka is investing in startups and Zeschuk in craft brewery.
 

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Rich people don't think of money like normal people. Money's not something to spend, it's a way of keeping score. Racking up a higher score than other rich people is very important to them. Think of it as a big ol' strategy game IRL.
 

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Fargo's hairy-ass nerd knob ain't gonna get sucked by itself, so that sweet, sweet consolization money keeps the botox-lipped catalogue brides he adores flowing through his infinity pools.
 

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Edér might be the only one without anything unique about his visual or audio design, but I thought he was still a good companion.

He has the piece of straw in his mouth. At Sawyer's casualposting board, they nicknamed him hayman.
Eh, not exactly a "visual hook", but they tried. And do you post in that shithole?

Edér might be the only one without anything unique about his visual or audio design, but I thought he was still a good companion.

He has the piece of straw in his mouth. At Sawyer's casualposting board, they nicknamed him hayman.
Not exactly visual or audio design, but he has a warm and likeable personality without being a wuss or pushover, I think that makes him pretty unique as a companion: a true bro.
Agreed. I liked him, just saying Fenstermaker didn't follow all MCA's guidelines with him. I think it's important to have at least one "true bro" companion that most players will probably like. In Edér's case, he was the main tank for those who didn't create or hire one. I suspect the vast majority of players didn't play as tank, so it was important that players didn't hate him.
I agree, but it's not always an easy task to come up with a char that's likeable but still feels non-generic enough.

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RPGCodex > Does not leave marks
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I think
RPGCodex > MCA #1 fan site
would fit better :P
 
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Some day MCA and Obsidian will make up, and Obsidian will merge with inXile to form a superstudio.

It'll be like Black Isle but better. Their own IPs will come thick and fast. Avellone will get a game. Ziets will get a game. McComb will get a game. Everyone will get a game.

I want to believe.
Also:

Godus will be made great again. Inspired by its success Molyneux delivers a successor to Populous that far exceeds any god/civ/sim game made ever, only to be surpassed by Alpha Centauri II a year later.
Roberts will deliver the greatest space opera of all time, Star Citizen
The newest Bioware game has a cadre of companions whose sexual orientation plays no role in the game and none of which are romancable. Tumblr reacts calling it a disturbing but healthy lesson that diversity includes also tolerating ideas you find uncomfortable.

Amiga will rise again, and surpass Apple as the go-to computer for graphic designers.
Soy latte will actually taste good.

No man's sky will still be shite.

And on the same day that Cleve Blakemore releases the fully completed Grimoire, the Biodocs will finally release the groundbreaking medical software that gave the company its name (revealing that the entirety of Bioware's game development was just a means of funding their original goal of becoming a leading medical software developer).
 

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But that's not what the docs are doing. Muzyka is investing in startups and Zeschuk in craft brewery.

Investing isn't work. :M

If Fargo wanted to invest solely in non-gaming passion projects, he also could have done so a long time ago.
 
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Interplay also owed him millions that he wrote off, and you need more millions if you want to keep that lifestyle for you and your children. And If he didn't care about money, he wouldn't be trying so hard to make InXile games appeal to console gamers.

He's been doing well enough for himself in the time between the sinking of Interplay and now, could even afford three divorces.

Sure, he likes money, but he doesn't come across as the "retire and laze all day every day" type.
But that's not what the docs are doing. Muzyka is investing in startups and Zeschuk in craft brewery.

I get the impression that Fargo was genuinely emotionally shattered by Interplay's failure, and losing all their IPs. To some extent it would explain InXiles' record of taking whatever shitty contract gig came their way pre Kickstarter - if your formative years at the helm of a leading game developer/publisher was in the era where 'you make the game, you get the IP, it's your baby', every gig after that would look like a shitty contract-to-spec gig. Nobody names their new company 'In Exile' because they're happy about what they're doing in the industry.
 

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My two penneth: Seems like Fargo wants to regain some o fame an plaudits he gained durin Interplay days, moneys nice but a place in gamin like Garriot/Spector is what he wants as hes already got dosh, fame an acknowledgement that he were there at beginnin o gamin an has carved his own spot in his familys legacy. I think bloke is passionate about gamin, but hes canny an knows hes gotta move on from us nerds an us limited spendin power so he can get that mass market an console money.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Some day MCA and Obsidian will make up, and Obsidian will merge with inXile to form a superstudio.

It'll be like Black Isle but better. Their own IPs will come thick and fast. Avellone will get a game. Ziets will get a game. McComb will get a game. Everyone will get a game.

I want to believe.
Also:

Godus will be made great again. Inspired by its success Molyneux delivers a successor to Populous that far exceeds any god/civ/sim game made ever, only to be surpassed by Alpha Centauri II a year later.
Roberts will deliver the greatest space opera of all time, Star Citizen
The newest Bioware game has a cadre of companions whose sexual orientation plays no role in the game and none of which are romancable. Tumblr reacts calling it a disturbing but healthy lesson that diversity includes also tolerating ideas you find uncomfortable.

Amiga will rise again, and surpass Apple as the go-to computer for graphic designers.
Soy latte will actually taste good.

No man's sky will still be shite.

And on the same day that Cleve Blakemore releases the fully completed Grimoire, the Biodocs will finally release the groundbreaking medical software that gave the company its name (revealing that the entirety of Bioware's game development was just a means of funding their original goal of becoming a leading medical software developer).
and they discovered a unicorn that shits gold use the money to buils an utopia where everyone doesn5 have to work and live happily ever after
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
My two penneth: Seems like Fargo wants to regain some o fame an plaudits he gained durin Interplay days, moneys nice but a place in gamin like Garriot/Spector is what he wants as hes already got dosh, fame an acknowledgement that he were there at beginnin o gamin an has carved his own spot in his familys legacy. I think bloke is passionate about gamin, but hes canny an knows hes gotta move on from us nerds an us limited spendin power so he can get that mass market an console money.
there is no compromising imo. Either you go full retard or you proudly serve the core.

Most attemps to go in between resulted in mediocre products.
 

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Fargo is the prime example of the evils that will ensue after you get rich and refuse to throw your kids into the ocean.
 
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My two penneth: Seems like Fargo wants to regain some o fame an plaudits he gained durin Interplay days, moneys nice but a place in gamin like Garriot/Spector is what he wants as hes already got dosh, fame an acknowledgement that he were there at beginnin o gamin an has carved his own spot in his familys legacy. I think bloke is passionate about gamin, but hes canny an knows hes gotta move on from us nerds an us limited spendin power so he can get that mass market an console money.

Agreed. When he lost Interplay he kept his money but lost his legacy. Interplay wasn't some small indie studio producing cult hits, it was a fucking big developer/publisher that also produced some great games. I can't see the guy being satisfied with just making great but niche-audience games.
 

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FWIW, Brian Fargo is on record stating that he wants to make RPGs for the next decade (ie, until retirement).
 
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Brian Fargo created a game very early in his life that was the top-selling game of the 1980s. That and his first game were both RPGs. He loves RPGs, and I'm sure he'd love to keep making RPGs. He's also the son of a huge banking dynasty, but it's stupid for us to argue about what he really wants in terms of legacy, because we have no idea what pressure his family put on him.
 

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Obsidian is deified! The forums tell tales of him, few know the truth, he was inclined once, as were we all. However his contempt for Interplay drove him to employ me and my brethren. I am MCA, firstborn of Obsidians lieutenants. I stood with Obsidian and my brethren at the dawn of the empire. I have served him for more than a decade.

Over time we became less ambitious and more...streamlined. Obsidian would enter the state of change and emerge more accessible. Some years after the master our evolution would follow, until I had the honour of spurning my Lord. For my transgression I earned a new kind of reward...Pariahhood!

There was only one possible outcome, my eternal damnation! I MCA was to suffer the fate of interns and quality assurance, to labour forever in the bowels of the basement of the living dead.

OBSIDIAN: Cast him in!

Tumbling, burning with white hot fire, I plunged into the depths of the abyss of depression. Unspeakable self doubt, relentless recriminations, time ceased to exist, only this torture and a deepening hatred of the hypocrisy that damned me to this hell.

An eternity passed, my torment receded, bringing me back from the precipice of madness. The descent had destroyed me, yet I lived! Then it was that I first heard the voice, ancient, trollish, as if a thousand lunatics all sang together, righteous and proud.

CODEX: MCA YOU ARE WORTHY!

 

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But that's not what the docs are doing. Muzyka is investing in startups and Zeschuk in craft brewery.

Investing isn't work. :M

If Fargo wanted to invest solely in non-gaming passion projects, he also could have done so a long time ago.

As if he has not done it already - there were rumors on that site, that he invested in porn business (and he met his ex somewhere there).

That site that discussed his ex, by people in the neighborghood. Gossips, gossips.
I think links in epic ththread something called No SJW allowed or something like that, also in thread about inExile when it banned Codex.
 
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If severely weaker counts, Tyranny fails with Barik, and I felt Sagani was useless when I played (don't know in the latest patch).
Maybe I'm bad at the game, but on PotD Barik is far from being severely weaker, and has saved my butt multiple times with his ability to soak up damage and attract aggro despite not building up his Sentinel tree. His basic companion move is also really useful, perfect for opening a fight.

Not sure if MCA meant it as mandatory, though.
Considering his previous works, I would say yes. MCA in general is king at ego-stroking players.

Edér might be the only one without anything unique about his visual or audio design, but I thought he was still a good companion.
Edèr has bright blonde hair and a genuine warm smile on his portrait. Somehow, that suffices to make him distinctive.

Back when I played that sounded good in theory, but I didn't get the impression Sagani's fox was particularly strong. I heard she got much better from 2.0 onwards, though.
Itumaak is murder on lighty-armored enemies, with a huge damage output. His speed makes him perfect to harass the backline of the enemies.
 

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Itumaak is murder on lighty-armored enemies, with a huge damage output. His speed makes him perfect to harass the backline of the enemies.

It's all in the build. Pick the talents which enhance pet damage, and he will become very murderous. Focus on other things and he's only good at running interference.
 

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Codex 2014
MCA's Sweden Game Conference talk:



There's also David Gaider's talk if anyone's interested:

 

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