Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

[Master]

This show was spectacle from episode 1 (or maybe 2). Dont see whats the big deal now.

 

[Orma]

 

[Yosharian]

This show was spectacle from episode 1 (or maybe 2). Dont see whats the big deal now.

Ummm

 

[aeroaeko]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

 

[Butter]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

Seems like he's getting a sweet rate for writing one weekend/month.

 

[RickOmbo]

Witch hugs and sleazy businessmen in hiding, gotta love them.

 

[Duckard]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

Maybe he doesn't want it. Being project director comes with its own share of baggage, I'm sure.

 

[Mikeal]

Somewhere, sometime ago he said, he doesn't want to be lead on any big time project. I bet Roguey will serve da quote.

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

I think he actualy said that he doesn't want to be a lead on any big project at Obsidian.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

Avellone has critical acclaim, but his actual record at earning for his bosses is pretty spotty. Quite a few of his projects flopped at launch even though critics were raving about them. His fame makes him an expensive investment and his actual record means that he is unreliable. Those are not traits money men want to see in the people they appoint to head major projects.

 

[Neanderthal]

His actual record means that he is unreliable.

He sings too?

 

[Thal]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

Avellone has critical acclaim, but his actual record at earning for his bosses is pretty spotty. Quite a few of his projects flopped at launch even though critics were raving about them. His fame makes him an expensive investment and his actual record means that he is unreliable. Those are not traits money men want to see in the people they appoint to head major projects.

Also, leadership positions and implementation positions require different traits. And in many cases leadership is just delegation and oversight, which may not be the best use of creative talents. I think people often hope that by promoting a talented designer you somehow multiply his talent, but it may not be so. Maybe MCA is better used in actual design. Would he even like being a boss? Look at James Ohlen, his best work was early career and later he was so high up in the food chain that he couldn't even design anything anymore.

 

[Cael]

Why doesn't Chris Avellone get more lead writer / project director roles? Pretty much everything he's been attached to has been golden / all time great tier.

Avellone has critical acclaim, but his actual record at earning for his bosses is pretty spotty. Quite a few of his projects flopped at launch even though critics were raving about them. His fame makes him an expensive investment and his actual record means that he is unreliable. Those are not traits money men want to see in the people they appoint to head major projects.

Also, leadership positions and implementation positions require different traits. And in many cases leadership is just delegation and oversight, which may not be the best use of creative talents. I think people often hope that by promoting a talented designer you somehow multiply his talent, but it may not be so. Maybe MCA is better used in actual design. Would he even like being a boss? Look at James Ohlen, his best work was early career and later he was so high up in the food chain that he couldn't even design anything anymore.

This is true, and is something that most companies run afoul of. A good salesman doesn't mean he is a good manager. Similarly, a good tech might not be a good manager. However, they are the ones most likely to get promoted, and in most companies, it is the sales guys who get to the top echelon like CEO. This is generally a mistake because one of the things sales guys tend to be good at is bullshitting and talking crap. When you hit GM, CEO or MD level, that bullshitting usually ends up being very detrimental to the organisation.

 

[Quillon]

Don't think the problem is people don't trust him to lead a game, its he doesn't wanna, otherwise he would have by now, easily. So stop sucking his dick cos it won't get better than he's being 1 of the 8 writers for a game, and more often than not we won't know what he actually wrote in the games he's part of.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

otherwise he would have by now, easily. So stop sucking his dick cos it won't get better than he's being 1 of the 8 writers for a game

By your own reckoning, he could change his mind tomorrow and decide to take a leading position on a team. And I have no idea what sucking his dick would have to do with it either way.

 

[Quillon]

By your own reckoning, he could change his mind tomorrow and decide to take a leading position on a team. And I have no idea what sucking his dick would have to do with it either way.

I reckon he won't, we've only been hearing that he's part of this and that game & this number of unannounced projects, he can't just take on a leading position while he's part of all that. And codex' sucking his dick for the prospect of an MCA-lead RPG, all I'm saying there is no point to it unless you like sucking dicks.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

And codex' sucking his dick for the prospect of an MCA-lead RPG, all I'm saying there is no point to it unless you like sucking dicks.t

aeroaeko raised the quiestion about lead roles yesterday, and after that there are 6 posts saying either MCA doesn't want to lead projects, or that he might not be great in that position anyway. Are you fucking high?

 

[Quillon]

I've never been high

 

[Nutria]

stop sucking his dick

Make me!

 

[Quillon]

stop sucking his dick

Make me!

I'm trying, yo.

 

[Alpan]

There's some classic MCA passive aggression in the Eurogamer piece about Fallout: NV's missing post-game:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...what-happened-to-fallout-new-vegass-post-game

"The loss of post-game content was a big hit in many respects," Avellone told me over email. "It didn't feel like a compromise - it felt more like a surprise."

[...]

"Designing post-game content is not hard to do if you're keeping it in mind with each NPC and quest as you're designing it (like doing a Karma check, faction check, or just another global reactivity check, which we had to do anyway) - sometimes all it needs is a post-endgame line," Avellone explained.

"But if you haven't planned for it throughout your design process for your areas and characters, it can be a lot of work to go back and add later on. And while some designers had planned for it - for example, our lead writer had lines for Mr. House in place for post-game reactivity and Strip Securitrons - not all areas had post-game design work."

 

[2house2fly]

Every moment spent on post-Hoover content was a moment wasted. Let the game end at the end. There's not a lot I respect about Deadfire, but I respect that they didn't have a postgame even though a lot of people wanted it

 

[Alpan]

Agreed, most of the time all the post-game really amounts to is an interactive ending.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Ugh, I'm missing all the cool drama!!!

 

[Roguey]

Apparently there's a long story behind why there will never be a Switch port of New Vegas.
https://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/status/1135439977041387522

Man, if you guys announce a Switch port next week...

That, unfortunately, will never happen, and not because Beths. wouldn't want it to - long story.

A technical thing or did Feargus burn a bridge?