Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

[HoboForEternity]

he really aged alot in the last 2 year.

 

[Fairfax]

Sounds a lot like a Dead Space or System Shock type of game rather than the cyberpunk open-world shooter Human Head was making. Could be good, but there's very little info about the game, let alone MCA's role in it.
Definitely not the Lead Writer, though:

Well Dishonored was fun and quite good gameplay wise. And this is by the same developer yes? Seemed to be just generic corridor shooter FPS though, I hope is not a waste of MCA.

Inb4, MCA join Bethesda full-time and working as narrative designer for TES franchise.

Dishonoured was developed by both Arkane studios (Lyon, the HQ, and Austin), while this one is made by the Austin office alone.

 

[Infinitron]

Prey thread is here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/arkanes-prey-now-with-chris-avellone.109304/

 

[Fenix]

This is true. It doesn't mean you need to introduce hierarchy though. You do need to introduce structure and process, but that's not the same thing at all.

But every big srtucture use hierarchy, every - army, government.
Actually you need it, but you can go without it if don'y mund to lose some efficience, or if you can't manage hierarchy right and you know it bring more bad then good to you at least as I see it.

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As for Prey - hey, I would be glad to get something like System Shock, maybe it would be motivation to upgrade my PC from 8600 GT lol.

 

[Barbarian]

Meh, I'm not sure if having writing bits and pieces on the sidelines can actually make a game worthwhile.

Also, a question: What exactly was Avellone's involvement with the Neverwinter Nights 2 OC? Sawyer is listed as lead designer, but I know Avellone participated in some role.

 

[Infinitron]

Meh, I'm not sure if having writing bits and pieces on the sidelines can actually make a game worthwhile.

Also, a question: What exactly was Avellone's involvement with the Neverwinter Nights 2 OC? Sawyer is listed as lead designer, but I know Avellone participated in some role.

He wrote all the companions.

 

[Roguey]

And much like Josh inherited the lead design role, he inherited those character concepts from other people.

 

[Fairfax]

And much like Josh inherited the lead design role, he inherited those character concepts from other people.

Interesting that you bring that up while Infinitron left it out.

 

[Infinitron]

Better make a Site Feedback thread about it

 

[Prime Junta]

And much like Josh inherited the lead design role, he inherited those character concepts from other people.

Is still shamefur dispray. It ought to be possible to do better with "hippie elf druid," "funny gnome bard" or "tormented tall, dark paladin" concepts than Elanee, Grobnar, or Casavir.

(Grobnar is better than I remembered though. Some of his lines are genuinely funny. Yes, I did another OC playthrough somewhat recently... )

 

[Jaesun]

And much like Josh inherited the lead design role, he inherited those character concepts from other people.

Is still shamefur dispray. It ought to be possible to do better with "hippie elf druid," "funny gnome bard" or "tormented tall, dark paladin" concepts than Elanee, Grobnar, or Casavir.

(Grobnar is better than I remembered though. Some of his lines are genuinely funny. Yes, I did another OC playthrough somewhat recently... )

Given the time constraints and the sudden hell of developing this I thought they pulled it off *fairly* well.

 

[Prime Junta]

Given the time constraints and the sudden hell of developing this I thought they pulled it off *fairly* well.

It's somewhat remarkable that they pulled it off at all.

 

[Barbarian]

Well, I'm playing NWN 2 right now. I was first convinced by people here I should give Mask of the Betrayer a try. Later I was convinced by a friend that I should play the OC first for completion's sake, and I am actually going through it. I'm in the start of act 2 now and I'm actually glad I chugged along through the most boring parts of the first act. It is far from a great game, but it is enjoyable enough so far.

As for the npcs, I'm surprised to hear Avellone wrote them. They are basically mostly boring generics. The only one somewhat interesting so far is Qara. I hope at least the other npcs you pick up along the way are more "avellonian".

Was he forced to work with concepts already laid out for him?

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

Sure, NWN2 turned out surprisingly well (although still pretty shit), all things considered, but there's no denying that the companions, with the possible exception of Ammon Jerro, are all incredibly underwhelming- doubly so when you realize they were written by MCA.

 

[Prime Junta]

Barbarian NWN2 OC is enjoyable enough if you just roll through it and, above, all DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT. If you start, you'll start noticing plot holes and general inconsistencies you can drive a battleship through. Sorely tempted to start on that, but I won't.

 

[Roguey]

It ought to be possible to do better with "hippie elf druid,"

Elanee is unique for being a romance option played intentionally creepy.

 

[Sizzle]

It ought to be possible to do better with "hippie elf druid,"

Elanee is unique for being a romance option played intentionally creepy.

It was intentionally written that way? Did MCA or JS (or someone else) say that somewhere?

 

[Prime Junta]

It ought to be possible to do better with "hippie elf druid,"

Elanee is unique for being a romance option played intentionally creepy.

Uh... yeah I guess.

It's still poorly executed, even for that. If you snub her politely when she declares her undying love for you, she's like "Eh, okay I guess." That is not how creeps behave when snubbed. Would've expected an Elemental Swarm and Storm of Vengeance at least.

 

[Roguey]

It was intentionally written that way? Did MCA or JS (or someone else) say that somewhere?

No, but I imagine Avellone doesn't think it's normal, appropriate behavior for an adult woman to secretly leer at a kid while he's bathing and pursue him romantically when he's an adult.

 

[Rivmusique]

Hot.

 

[Sizzle]

It was intentionally written that way? Did MCA or JS (or someone else) say that somewhere?

No, but I imagine Avellone doesn't think it's normal, appropriate behavior for an adult woman to secretly leer at a kid while he's bathing and pursue him romantically when he's an adult.

No, of course not. I just thought that, given his dislike of romances, he might have intentionally made it that way as a subversion and logical conclusion of a "love at first sight" between long living fantasy races.

Given that some people still thought it was sweet, maybe they should have made it even more overt :D

 

[Grauken]

you can't beat perverts at their own game, just don't do romances or better, include romantic options that never lead anywhere

 

[LESS T_T]

Logic Artists Presents:

 

[Fairfax]

"Avallone" I wonder if it's intentional?

Also, his favourite game seems to change every week. He just had an interview about his favourite game and said it was close between Wasteland and System Shock 2, now it's Chrono Trigger.

Chaotic Neutral.

Equilibirum would have to be a pretty heavy shooter, interesting pick.

"Codex or Watch?"
"Ooh...different reasons, Codex"

 

[Infinitron]

That was the best thing ever.

LESS T_T Where'd you get the link to it?