People News Chris Avellone grows a pair and fights back against being cancelled

[Dycedarg]

It was absolutely not the correct choice. Do remember that around the same time Chris' accusers "came forward", pretty much the same thing happened to Seven Pesos Pedro. Except he's the one who handled it correctly. He immediately went in full offense mode, used all of his public platforms to vehemently deny the accusations and defend himself, got lawyered up within a day or two and started threatening/throwing lawsuits at his accusers.

Fast forward a year, Enraged Enrique's reputation is still 99.9% intact*, his career didn't take so much as a scratch and almost no one even mentions that case anymore. Compare that to Chris who chose to beg and grovel (or strategically do nothing as you claim ), who has been dropped and abandoned by p. much all of his "friends" and is entirely unemployable in the vidya industry because of his reputation as a sex molester.

*he did get banned from RetardEra, but it's, you know, RetardEra (although that may have been because of his "transphobic" review of The Last of Us 2, I can't remember)

Pretty much this. And frankly, some of Avellone's statements in his post sound completely delusional. Not necessarily because he was lying, but because that is not how those things work:

Others suggested the legal route. I didn’t want to do this. Often, the legal system is used to silence others. I do not believe any good ever comes of this. I do not want to silence anyone — I want the opposite. I want Karissa’s and Kelly’s story to be not only heard, but elevated, and I want them to speak more about what happened.

And after they have spoken, I want my response and the responses of others who witnessed the allegations to be heard as well… but Twitter and Facebook are not the place for these conversations because they are unlikely to be heard.

Angry Joe handed the situation correctly because he treated his accusers as enemies and the legal system as a weapon to silence and destroy them. If you're accused of something as heinous as sexual assault, that's how you are supposed to act.

 

[cherry blossom]

Drunk women also misconstrue their demeanor as "enthusiastic consent" until the morning after. If you are looking for simping for drunken thots, you are in the wrong thread.

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

edit: Good to know we have potential rapists here at the Codex.

 

[Fenix]

Drunk women also misconstrue their demeanor as "enthusiastic consent" until the morning after.

Only bad ones tee-hee.

 

[mondblut]

Drunk women also misconstrue their demeanor as "enthusiastic consent" until the morning after. If you are looking for simping for drunken thots, you are in the wrong thread.

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

Unless they are men, hurr durr.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

And if Chris was drunk and she made a move on him... Pah, why do I even bother. Begone, thot.

 

[Poseidon00]

So Chris was drunk and misconstrued her demeanor as "enthusiastic consent" so his recollection is that of a consensual thing.

I don't know about her but men are capable of doing really ugly fucking shit without even realizing doing it because it is the culturally enforced thing. I doubt Chris is all that innocent

I agree but this is just con culture and they all bear responsibility.

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

Can't agree here, context matters and literally everyone knows cons are one big orgy. Getting drunk with a member of the opposite sex in the first place at a con is implied consent in my wholly honest opinion.

 

[Fenix]

Drunk people can not give consent.

People can't give concent at all, let's stop at the last station of clown world.

 

[Togukawa]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

They were both drunk, but Chris is responsible for his actions whereas she is not responsible for hers...

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Drunk people can not give consent.

reminder that avellone was also drunk therefore she raped avellone

 

[mondblut]

People can't give concent at all, let's stop at the last station of clown world.

Only twitter hivemind can give consent on behalf of people. Thou shalt love the feminine penis and the like.

 

[Lambach]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

2/10, made me reply.

 

[cherry blossom]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

They were both drunk, but Chris is responsible for his actions whereas she is not responsible for hers...

Do we know they both were? If they were, Chris should also admit to it. I'll admit I don't know where or how to draw lines when both parties are drunk.

 

[cherry blossom]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

2/10, made me reply.

If you don't agree with this very fundamental principle on consent, you are a potential rapist.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

How come a person is liable for their behavior when it comes to drunk driving but not when it comes to drunk sex?
Really makes u think....

 

[prengle]

oh he stopped drinking soylent. cool!

 

[Dycedarg]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

Not really. But I'll let an american lawyer make my point for me:

 

[Lambach]

If you don't agree with this very fundamental principle on consent, you are a potential rapist.

Not only that, but I've also been raped myself! More than once!

I fucked a couple of times while drunk. Where's your sympathy for me, you heartless bastard?

 

[The_Mask]

If you don't agree with this very fundamental principle on consent, you are a potential rapist.

Do you post on RESETera a lot?

 

[Thac0]

Do we know they both were? If they were, Chris should also admit to it. I'll admit I don't know where or how to draw lines when both parties are drunk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intoxication_defense
You commit the crime, but the is no guilt because you are intoxicated basically.
There are also usually supporting laws against willingly intoxicating yourself to commit a crime and stuff, also different threshholds for which crimes you can commit with which BAC. You need more to get off scot free for murder than for robbery as an example.

Ideally the threshhold for losing your ability to give consent legally would be exactly the same as the one where the intoxication defense protects you fully, to not lead to any funky situations. I am not sure how high it is exactly in Kwan land however.

Also do not underestimate the amount of alcohol you need to intake to lose your legal ability to give consent, there are mountains of differences between drunk and dead drunk.

 

[mondblut]

I fucked a couple of times while drunk. Where's your sympathy for me, you heartless bastard?

Heck, I hardly ever fucked sober. I am never fully 100% sober to begin with. Halp, I've been subjected to a torrent of rape and sexual abuse for the entirety of my adult life!

 

[cherry blossom]

Drunk people can not give consent. Doesn't matter what she thought, said or felt in the moment if she was drunk and if she were, she would have every right to call it whatever she wanted to call it later on, even years later.

And if she were drunk and Chris made a move on her, that is basically sexual assault.

Not really. But I'll let an american lawyer make my point for me:

Angry men afraid that their right to coerce drunk women into sex without getting called rapists making up an absolute binary state, ignoring the gradient from drunk to incapacitated when even the definition of incapacitation is up for debate in a lot of cases. "Her eyes were open and she was mumbling, and I heard yes".

Law is often very dodgy on these things.

 

[Iskramor]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...ing-light-obsidian-developer/?sh=5b08c66329ff

Imagine unironically working for blizzard. Company that didnt produce anything meaningfull since Wotlk.....

Imagine unironically working for a steady paycheck, crazy right?

Imagine being working class

 

[cherry blossom]

I fucked a couple of times while drunk. Where's your sympathy for me, you heartless bastard?

Heck, I hardly ever fucked sober. I am never fully 100% sober to begin with. Halp, I've been subjected to a torrent of rape and sexual abuse for the entirety of my adult life!

You might like to ask yourself why it is that you almost always were drunk when you had sex, what you were really looking to get out of it.

 

[mondblut]

You might like to ask yourself why it is that you almost always were drunk when you had sex

Because I can't stand the company of other people sober.

what you were really looking to get out of it.

Ejaculation.

 

[Absinthe]

anyone know if this guy is objective or has an agenda? /haven't watched the video yet

He does not come off as having an agenda, and it is true that libel suits are typically very difficult to win. He raises some good points on the whole, and it looks like the suit could indeed have been better filed, since I am sure there are clearer statements of fact to dispute for such a case. I do think that he is overestimating how difficult it will be for Chris Avellone to prove actual malice in this case (Karissa's comments over time have been documented), however.

 

[Dycedarg]

Angry men afraid that their right to coerce drunk women into sex without getting called rapists making up an absolute binary state, ignoring the gradient from drunk to incapacitated when even the definition of incapacitation is up for debate in a lot of cases. "Her eyes were open and she was mumbling, and I heard yes".

Law is often very dodgy on these things.

Not as dodgy as your clearly idiotic statements. You said that "drunk people can not give consent" and later doubled down when someone called you out on your clearly retarded statements by calling him a "potential rapist". And you never even brought up the difference between incapacitaded and drunk before the tweet I quoted. It's almost like you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.