People News Chris Avellone grows a pair and fights back against being cancelled

[Dycedarg]

Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...

To update an RPG list:

Australia - Warlock of Firetop Mountain, Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar
Britain - Kenshi
Canada - Outward
Czech Republic - Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Finland - Legend of Grimrock, Legend of Grimrock II
France - Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, Solasta: Crown of the Magister
Japan - Demon's/Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma
Korea - Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children
Poland - The Witcher series
Serbia - UnderRail
Various - Age of Decadence

Not to mention Pathfinder Kingmaker and ATOM from Russia. About the influence of the US in rpgs, if you go by all those titles one by one, it's pretty clear that most of them were inspired by american rpgs, especially from the 90's and early 00's. On the other hand, most good wrpgs in the last decade were not made in the US. It will be interesting to see which of those games will become references for new developers. But judging by numbers alone, the US influence in this (admittedly niche) market tends to go down.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...

These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
The only major non-American influence on the cRPG market is Gothic.

 

[Karwelas]

Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...

These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
The only major non-American influence on the cRPG market is Gothic.

Go on, list the products you mean. I will wait and in the meanwhile do something worthwhile with my time, like I don't know, masturbate or read a book about ancient Rome.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I will wait and in the meanwhile do something worthwhile with my time, like I don't know, masturbate or read a book about ancient Rome.

 

[Steel Soul]

Does anybody know what kind of dirt we might get to see after discovery? And how soon?

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

About the influence of the US in rpgs, if you go by all those titles one by one, it's pretty clear that most of them were inspired by american rpgs, especially from the 90's and early 00's.

These are all knockoffs of better American products though.

There are two types of RPGs: Dungeons & Dragons and games derived from Dungeons & Dragons.

For that matter, the first CRPGs were created on America's PLATO system shortly after the publication of D&D, and after the development of microcomputers personal computers the vast majority of commercially-released computer RPGs were American-made for many years. Nearly every major subgenre of CRPG was established by an American-developed game. Nonetheless, in our current era of hemi-semi-demi-incline, American RPG developers have been overtaken by their overseas contenders, who have harkened back to past RPG classics in order to move the genre forward.

 

[Tacgnol]

Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

 

[Togukawa]

These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
The only major non-American influence on the cRPG market is Gothic.

American cRPGs used to be pretty great.

 

[likash]

Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Fuck that pussy. Her/His lack of integrity is disturbing. We don't know for sure what he/she is.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Fuck that pussy.

Dude no.

 

[TF]

The American/Bethesda version of Kingdom Come Deliverance would be pretty hilarious in its po-faced, estro-woke, anachronism laden anti-glory

 

[Dycedarg]

There are two types of RPGs: Dungeons & Dragons and games derived from Dungeons & Dragons.

CRPGS have existed since the 70's and all are somewhat derived from D&D. As such, saying that a game was influenced by Dungeons & Dragons is pretty much redundant. In fact, games as different as the original Fallout and the Dragon Quest series can be put on that same category, which just shows how broad it is.

But Fallout, Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment are pretty different between themselves. And for most of the games mentioned here, it's pretty obvious which of those three was the major source of inspiration.

Nearly every major subgenre of CRPG was established by an American-developed game. Nonetheless, in our current era of hemi-semi-demi-incline, American RPG developers have been overtaken by their overseas contenders, who have harkened back to past RPG classics in order to move the genre forward

True. And since most of the genre was created and developed in America they had no choice but to go back the genre's roots, which was exactly my point. And the next step would be for non-american rpgs (which are mostly european) to influence future developers. On that regard, I think Dark Souls' influence in the action rpg subgenre is the most notable success story.

 

[darkpatriot]

Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.

 

[Storyfag]

Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.

So it's time to get the promethium?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.

So it's time to get the promethium?

Always has been

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Jurror pool below

This guy looks like he's about to split right in the middle into two by mitosis.

 

[agris]

I'm not from kwanzania, but doesn't it mean he will have to convice every single one of them that Karissa was unquestionably malicious, random hoes included, in order to win ?
If yes, then like what the fuck is wrong with him, how out of touch with reality you can be ?

Yes. His high-priced lawyers believed this was less risky than a bench trial.

Idk civil libel burden of proof, but it’s not uncommon for civil suits to have a lower burden of proof for conviction against the defendant, ie 51% for civil conviction vs “overwhelming” for criminal. The OJ Simpson case in the US is the first example of this that comes to mind - the government couldn’t get a guilty verdict because each and every juror needed to be convinced "beyond a reasonable doubt" of his guilt. They were not, and he was acquitted of the criminal charges. Unlike the criminal prosecution, he was found guilty in civil trial because each juror just had to agree that it was “more likely than not” that he was guilty of the charges, which is commonly thought of as being a > 51% chance of guilt. I'm not sure what "beyond a reasonable doubt" would be in percentages, probably 90 or 95%.

this is also why every time there’s a cop shooting there’s civil charges brought as well as state / federal. It’s a lower bar of proof to secure a conviction aka get $$$$.

 

[Irxy]

You're completely proving my point. "I wouldn't support a guy that made shit games" (ubisoft) and "We supported that guy accused by zoe quinn" (political reasons). Exactly, I know that. That's exactly what I said. 95% of people here support Avellone out of reflex, either for political reasons or for a cult of personality. It's nothing to be ashamed of, just don't pretend it's an achievement, lol.

And why the heck should someone not be proud of taking a stance for the person you respect, due to convictions or whatever, and going against the mainstream crowd and specific individuals betraying their friend and colleague out of fear? Also codex is not a hivemind, there are many different people with varied opinions on everything here, you are not special - at least in that way.

I for one don't care much about Avellone as a person nor a writer, he has done some decent shit in the past, but his face trading during the past half decade has been more annoying than anything. That said, even if everything said by the sluts is true, I still fail to see anything wrong with that. Getting drunk and trying to get laid? That is like totally ok for every party involved unless you live in some puritanic society, which is not the case here. What is not ok is how that transforms into vague "sexual predator" and "abuse", and then to "rape", "assault" and a witch hunt. One has to be mentally chellenged to not see how wrong and ridiculous this whole thing is.

 

[Quillon]

Yeah we are biased but %95 or 99 or 100% of people here support Chris cos there is no tangible evidence against him other than their word and there are many inconsistent stuff surfaced clashing with their story. Also no one here thinks about their twatter creditz, prolly most don't even have an account there.

I was beginning to doubt Chris/questioned the part about Christy Dena in his statements when I saw her latest replies but thankfully it was refuted almost immediately in the next post. They just need to show a bit of irrefutable evidence if they can lol

 

[Krivol]

If Chris tried to rape anyone, he should not only be cancelled but also spend some time in prison. No doubts here. But we can't judge him according to twitter gossips. No one can. There should be an investigation and he should be sentenced by the court.

I understand statements from another side - "rape victims are usually too scared and ashamed to do anything" etc. But we really did not develop a better way to do justice. I can write on Twitter that Klarissa gang-raped me with her friends - would it have any meaning? Everyone can say anything about anyone.

 

[mastroego]

If Chris tried to rape anyone, he should not only be cancelled but also spend some time in prison. No doubts here. But we can't judge him according to twitter gossips. No one can. There should be an investigation and he should be sentenced by the court.

I understand statements from another side - "rape victims are usually too scared and ashamed to do anything" etc. But we really did not develop a better way to do justice. I can write on Twitter that Klarissa gang-raped me with her friends - would it have any meaning? Everyone can say anything about anyone.

I'm afraid this amounts to White Supremacy these days. You realize that, don't you?

 

[Sentinel]

And why the heck should someone not be proud of taking a stance for the person you respect, due to convictions or whatever, and going against the mainstream crowd and specific individuals betraying their friend and colleague out of fear? Also codex is not a hivemind, there are many different people with varied opinions on everything here, you are not special - at least in that way.

I already explained this for over >10 pages, if you can't be bothered to read it's because you're not interested in the answer. Don't quote me faggot.

 

[mondblut]

"rape victims are usually too scared and ashamed to do anything"

Good.

 

[TF]

I recognize the possibility that Avellone's nigh-alcoholic past erased some thing from his memory. Every time he says "I don't remember any of this" in his post I can't help but think "does he not remember because it didn't happen, or does he not remember because he was drunk out of his mind?"

My skepticism doesn't mean I believe the woman's accounts of the events btw. She's 100% personally motivated and only wants to destroy his life.

Way to totally fail to understand the presumption of innocence, or happily sodomise it in order to have it both ways

 

[Sentinel]

I recognize the possibility that Avellone's nigh-alcoholic past erased some thing from his memory. Every time he says "I don't remember any of this" in his post I can't help but think "does he not remember because it didn't happen, or does he not remember because he was drunk out of his mind?"

My skepticism doesn't mean I believe the woman's accounts of the events btw. She's 100% personally motivated and only wants to destroy his life.

Way to totally fail to understand the presumption of innocence, or happily sodomise it in order to have it both ways

So leaving aside the fact that presumption of innocence doesn't even apply in the court case we're talking about, do you believe that principle to be universal and do you apply it no matter who the accused is, or do you only bring it up when it's convenient for you?