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Harthwain

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It's not that simple. The industry is heavily influenced by USA and that country is like a big pile of crap slowly draining on other countries as well. Somehow anything that happens in US is worth imitating which is so funny it's not even funny anymore.
O rly?

Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...

If it was only US everyone else would just laugh at how dumb you guys are. Because you are so dumb it hurts. Everything you do is against all logic that ever existed.
 

Tramboi

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It's not that simple. The industry is heavily influenced by USA and that country is like a big pile of crap slowly draining on other countries as well. Somehow anything that happens in US is worth imitating which is so funny it's not even funny anymore.
O rly?

Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...

If it was only US everyone else would just laugh at how dumb you guys are. Because you are so dumb it hurts. Everything you do is against all logic that ever existed.


He has a point, though, in a cultural way. Lots of younger people in European game studios are very influenced by the modern Twitter US culture.
 

cosmin haraga

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to me it looks like entrapment, the ugly girl revenge thing.
the k girl practically set him up from the beginning, maybe she was mad for being ignored by a somewhat known playboy. it happens.
she was living their relation as j girl's best friend. we all know the type : the one that whispers in your girlfriend's ear all the crazy female tests and finding ways you failed ...
or maybe I'm just bitter over torment 2
 

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she was living their relation as j girl's best friend. we all know the type : the one that whispers in your girlfriend's ear all the crazy female tests and finding ways you failed ...
Nah. Chris just failed a simple perception/wisdom/streetwise check when Karissa suggested he should hit on her friend. That's woman talk for "I really want you but cant admit it or want to initiate anything, so I'll set you up with my best friend and hopefully be close to you that way."

If a single girl suggests you to date a friend of hers, she secretly wants you to date her instead. The only "trustworthy" people that set you up with their friends, are girls in relationships/married chicks, and even then half they time they want you for themselves anyway.
 

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Nah. Chris just failed a simple perception/wisdom/streetwise check when Karissa suggested he should hit on her friend. That's woman talk for "I really want you but cant admit it or want to initiate anything, so I'll set you up with my best friend and hopefully be close to you that way."

If a single girl suggests you to date a friend of hers, she secretly wants you to date her instead. The only "trustworthy" people that set you up with their friends, are girls in relationships/married chicks, and even then half they time they want you for themselves anyway.
You forget she has a child. One can totally understand MCA for not wanting to get involved with a woman that has offspring with someone else.
 

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Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...
To update an RPG list:

Australia - Warlock of Firetop Mountain, Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar
Britain - Kenshi
Canada - Outward
Czech Republic - Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Finland - Legend of Grimrock, Legend of Grimrock II
France - Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, Solasta: Crown of the Magister
Japan - Demon's/Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma
Korea - Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children
Poland - The Witcher series
Serbia - UnderRail
Various - Age of Decadence

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Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...
To update an RPG list:

Australia - Warlock of Firetop Mountain, Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar
Britain - Kenshi
Canada - Outward
Czech Republic - Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Finland - Legend of Grimrock, Legend of Grimrock II
France - Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, Solasta: Crown of the Magister
Japan - Demon's/Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma
Korea - Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children
Poland - The Witcher series
Serbia - UnderRail
Various - Age of Decadence

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Not to mention Pathfinder Kingmaker and ATOM from Russia. About the influence of the US in rpgs, if you go by all those titles one by one, it's pretty clear that most of them were inspired by american rpgs, especially from the 90's and early 00's. On the other hand, most good wrpgs in the last decade were not made in the US. It will be interesting to see which of those games will become references for new developers. But judging by numbers alone, the US influence in this (admittedly niche) market tends to go down.
 
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Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...
These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
The only major non-American influence on the cRPG market is Gothic.
 

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Battle Brothers is German. Solasta: Crown of the Magister and The Dungeon of Nahuibek are both French. Death Stranding is Japanese. Divinity: Original Sin series and Baldur's Gate 3 are Belgian. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are Polish. Kingdom Come: Deliverance and ARMA are Czech. Total War series is made by British, Minecraft and Europa Universalis/Hearts of Iron/Crusader Kings are Swedish, Disco Elysium comes from Estonia...
These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
The only major non-American influence on the cRPG market is Gothic.

Go on, list the products you mean. I will wait and in the meanwhile do something worthwhile with my time, like I don't know, masturbate or read a book about ancient Rome.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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About the influence of the US in rpgs, if you go by all those titles one by one, it's pretty clear that most of them were inspired by american rpgs, especially from the 90's and early 00's.
These are all knockoffs of better American products though.
There are two types of RPGs: Dungeons & Dragons and games derived from Dungeons & Dragons. :M

For that matter, the first CRPGs were created on America's PLATO system shortly after the publication of D&D, and after the development of microcomputers personal computers the vast majority of commercially-released computer RPGs were American-made for many years. Nearly every major subgenre of CRPG was established by an American-developed game. Nonetheless, in our current era of hemi-semi-demi-incline, American RPG developers have been overtaken by their overseas contenders, who have harkened back to past RPG classics in order to move the genre forward.
 

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Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.
 

likash

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Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.
Fuck that pussy. Her/His lack of integrity is disturbing. We don't know for sure what he/she is.
 

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The American/Bethesda version of Kingdom Come Deliverance would be pretty hilarious in its po-faced, estro-woke, anachronism laden anti-glory
 

Dycedarg

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There are two types of RPGs: Dungeons & Dragons and games derived from Dungeons & Dragons. :M

CRPGS have existed since the 70's and all are somewhat derived from D&D. As such, saying that a game was influenced by Dungeons & Dragons is pretty much redundant. In fact, games as different as the original Fallout and the Dragon Quest series can be put on that same category, which just shows how broad it is.

But Fallout, Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment are pretty different between themselves. And for most of the games mentioned here, it's pretty obvious which of those three was the major source of inspiration.

Nearly every major subgenre of CRPG was established by an American-developed game. Nonetheless, in our current era of hemi-semi-demi-incline, American RPG developers have been overtaken by their overseas contenders, who have harkened back to past RPG classics in order to move the genre forward

True. And since most of the genre was created and developed in America they had no choice but to go back the genre's roots, which was exactly my point. And the next step would be for non-american rpgs (which are mostly european) to influence future developers. On that regard, I think Dark Souls' influence in the action rpg subgenre is the most notable success story.
 

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Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.
 

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Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.

So it's time to get the promethium?
 

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Also, only somewhat related to the main thread, but amused me greatly. cherry blossom stuck me on ignore.

I wonder whether it was my remarks about women and drinking or the revelations about Jacqui.

Interesting. I had assumed cherry blossom was just trolling, but typically trolls won't ignore the people they are trying to troll as that would defeat the purpose. I suppose this is some evidence that cherry blossom is partly sincere in what they say, or at least that they somewhat believe the statements they are using to try to troll.

So it's time to get the promethium?
Always has been
 

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I'm not from kwanzania, but doesn't it mean he will have to convice every single one of them that Karissa was unquestionably malicious, random hoes included, in order to win ?
If yes, then like what the fuck is wrong with him, how out of touch with reality you can be ?

Yes. His high-priced lawyers believed this was less risky than a bench trial.
Idk civil libel burden of proof, but it’s not uncommon for civil suits to have a lower burden of proof for conviction against the defendant, ie 51% for civil conviction vs “overwhelming” for criminal. The OJ Simpson case in the US is the first example of this that comes to mind - the government couldn’t get a guilty verdict because each and every juror needed to be convinced "beyond a reasonable doubt" of his guilt. They were not, and he was acquitted of the criminal charges. Unlike the criminal prosecution, he was found guilty in civil trial because each juror just had to agree that it was “more likely than not” that he was guilty of the charges, which is commonly thought of as being a > 51% chance of guilt. I'm not sure what "beyond a reasonable doubt" would be in percentages, probably 90 or 95%.

this is also why every time there’s a cop shooting there’s civil charges brought as well as state / federal. It’s a lower bar of proof to secure a conviction aka get $$$$.
 
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