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It's a cruel world lol..

There probably isn't a hope in hell that anyone will have these but I'll try anyway...

I'm in the middle of a Civ2 website search side project as part of my bigger scenario hunting work (that I've posted about here before) to feature in a video series. I located a webarchive backup of an old Civ2 website called The Zandanian League by DSquared (it was also described as 'Dustin Dunn's Civ2 Site' in the link to it). This long lost site hosted a number of scenarios not found in any other repository I've searched through. Some of them relate to topics of great interest to me!

I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan especially the retro SNES/Super Nintendo ones and so I've been keeping an eye out for Civilization 2 scenarios based on it. Other than a vanilla Civ2 scenario with no changed graphics or sounds I'd found nothing in all the big repositories I've searched through. Yet on this site sits a full total conversion Final Fantasy 4 (2 in US) modpack for Civ2 by a fellow named Frank Johnson. As you can see in the surviving picture the trees, grass and hills are taken directly from the original game as well as the units and even the friggin cities are built from castles and villages you'd find on the world map. But of course this modpacks main download and 4 sound downloads were not backed up by webarchive.. such a shame that something this cool is likely lost forever.. :(

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Then just as I'm reeling from that teasing discovery I then visit his scenarios section to find that there is a Starcraft scenarios called Starcraft Terran War by aland007. I'm also a big Starcraft fan and have been hunting for any scenarios or modpacks related to it and was surprised to find none considering it's a late 90s game with 2.5D isometric graphics that would convert in pretty well. Now sure enough it appears someone did.. and of course the bloody download for that is not backed up either lol. Even the screenshot wasn't backed up so I don't know how good it is, however the site describes it as having "new graphics".

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Then after that it gets even better lol! There's also 3 Dune scenarios on his site that appear to be different from the Dune Arrakis scenario I've found elsewhere and already know about.

Sands of Dune by James Dahl
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Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru
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The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown
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They're about 3/4 down this page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030829213113/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/scenlist/d/d.php

No screenshots (other than those maps) and wow.. no luck.. Dustin links to the authors homepages.. I find their backups and go to their downloads sections and while some of the other downloads work fine but the dune ones fail.. coooommmoooon... give me something universe haha

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And just to top it all off I've just found ANOTHER FF scenario called Final Fantasy Civ by Jomb on dustin's website (about 5 or so down on this page)..
https://web.archive.org/web/20030829214038/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/scenlist/f/f.php
total conversion again with awesome imported graphics except this time it's from the classic NES era instead of SNES.. once again no luck lol.. it links to authors page where there's NO webarchive backup of the download... this is torture lol!

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I wonder what happened to Dustin Dunn / DSquared .. his Civ2 site was huuuuge.. Such a shame none of his stuff got backed up!

I don't suppose by some insanely flukey chance that someone here has these old scenario buried away somewhere lol?

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I have none, these old scenarios will go extinct unless they get uploaded to SLwiki or CF.
 

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I have finally completed my massive Civilization 2 website archive search & rescue project and created huge list of over 400 sites that either have or had scenarios, maps, graphics, strategies and general info on Civ2. I've downloaded quite a few long lost scenarios from them and will be adding them to the CivFinatics downloads area over the weeks to come (& eventually other places too) however there's plenty more on these sites I didn't get to so if you're looking to expand your personal Civ2 scenario collections or simply want to browse and reminisce over that great late 90s era (where every man & his dog had a cool looking Civ2 fan page on geocities lol) then go check it out! I've posted a copy of it across all the big Civ sites so hopefully it'll be a useful resource to the Civ2 community for years to come! :)
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ-fanatics-civ2-information-thread.355722/#post-16071407

I have none, these old scenarios will go extinct unless they get uploaded to SLwiki or CF.

Thanks for checking mate, yeah it breaks my heart.. While doing the above search I managed to find a site called SciFilization which specialised in Scifi Civ2 Scenarios and was hosted at Sidgames giving it it's own download file hosting that had the Starcraft scenario and 2 of the 3 Dune scenarios! But yeah.. once again downloads not backed up by Webarchive.. so close but so far.. especially as I used to be a member of the sidgames forums back in 1999 and chatted a couple of times with it's 'infamous' owner Whistler.
https://web.archive.org/web/20000903074847/http://scifi.sidgames.com/other.cfm

I also notice both this site and Dustin's have a Dawn of the Dead scenario too that is apparently a full total conversion zombie survival scenario set in the US where you have a small by powerful force surviving against a huge hoard of zombies. No sign of its files in Poly backups, here at CFC (other than some forums posts where people talk about how great it is) or anywhere else so that's another cool one I'll have to chalk in as lost forever too.
https://web.archive.org/web/20021116191412/http://dsquared.fiwh.com/civ2/scenlist/d/d.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20000903074949/http://scifi.sidgames.com/genscifi.cfm
https://web.archive.org/web/2000052...imesSquare/Chamber/1550/Previews/daydead.html
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Considering I've finished my website search I think that's it for these ones unless someone comes forward on one of the forums I've posted about them at. You win some you lose some haha!

Oh and there's also a few more rare scenarios I've found on an old German Civilization 2 website called Civ 2 Paradise by Willi Gross:
- A German Babylon 5 scenario (so presumably different to the 2 English ones I know of)
- A English Star Wars - The Dagobah System scenario
- A English Orion - Alpha Centauri scenario
- A English Alpha Centauri scenario (no description but possibly just the regular Alpha Centuari scenario also on Apolyton).

Considering these seem to only be on a German Civ2 site there's even less chance of finding them lol. But I've created a thread over on the German Civ2 forums about these just in case and will leave it at that.

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SCORE! I believe I've obtained one of the rare Alpha Centauri scenarios I mentioned above and more lost treasures! How it all went down was pretty flukey lol!

While doing the recent Civ 2 websites archive search side project mentioned above (hunting for more rare scenarios of interest to me) I found this old Geocities Civ2 site by a guy named John Mavin:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050216065438/http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8827/civii.htm

His scenarios page seemed to be filled with scenarios he made that weren't anywhere else. Some of the names may look familiar but you'll probably find that the ones you're thinking of were made by other people and not this guy. What of course stood out to me was that he'd made a Alpha Centauri one as that's one of my big main scenario hunt search & rescue project categories. Like in the above situations I held my breath and clicked on the download links hoping webarchive had the files but sure enough they all failed... was devo!

However as I moved through the different years of webarchive backups of his site I found that John had later replaced his Civ2 site with a blog about some novels he was writing. It turns out the novels became successful and I discovered his blog still exists nowadays elsewhere. And because he's a successful writer he's got social media pages where he updates his fans on all his latest works! So I thought scr*w it, I've got nothing to lose by asking so I msged him on his facebook page and asked if he still has his scenarios lol.

Within a few hours he'd gotten back to me to say HE DID! He even thanked me for messaging him as he thought no one cared about those Civ2 scenarios and would ever message him about them lol. I was like no man, thank YOU for making these and allowing me to preserve and share them with the community after all these years lol!

Great moments like that are why I do this crazy stuff haha! As every now and then you actually DO find the treasure lol!... Actual treasure and not trash haha!!

I have of course tested each one of them and added them to the CFC Civ2 downloads area so all collectors should grab a copy (click on titles below to go to download pages).

Alpha Centauri
I was so happy to see that the scenario I wanted the most was sure enough a total conversion scenario different to other AlphaC ones out there, and is heavily influenced by Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. Which is awesome as scenarios with influenced or ripped graphics from SMAC has totally been what I've been looking for in my super scenario hunt thread! Looks like this is probably the closest we'll get to a Civ2 scenario with totally ripped and converted SMAC graphics as I've always thought that would be cool to do (hell maybe I'll make one myself one day lol).


Even though I was mainly after the AlphaC scenario I said yes to his other stuff too as I had a feeling there would be some more rare gems and cool scenarios that even if I didn't want then others would definitely want and sure enough I wasn't disappointed. Nearly all of them are total conversion and have cool title pics too (I like it when people put effort into a good title pic). The historical ones (Roman, Viking/Saxon, & Napoleon) will no doubt be of interest to the ScenarioLeague members for possible ToT conversion with Fairline's & other's existing enhanced graphics. He's done a nice job at taking on all areas as we've got scifi, fantasy and historical ones below!

The Holy Immortals
A rather impressive fantasy scenario. The strange dark farm/irrigation graphics technique seems to unexpectedly work quite well. I love the look of the cities, they're not Age of Empires so I'm guessing they're possibly from the Caesar and Pharaoh games.


The Chelonian Conquest
A space scenario which appears to be influenced by the Master of Orion Jr scenario but with some new graphics and new aliens.


Heptarchy - The Conquest of the Saxon Kingdoms
If you're a fan of the TV show Vikings like I am and recently saw it's final season then this one will be of even bigger interest to you as it's set around the end of the Viking age and focuses on Ecgberht of Wessex conquering the Saxon kingdoms and unifying Britain.


Napoleon - Wars of Conquest
There's a number of Napoleon scenarios out there but I've not seen John's before until now. Looks like he gave the old CiC Napoleon scenario a fresh coat of paint.


The Punic Wars
A nice Roman scenario focused on the Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage. Once again we see those dark farmlands and cool city buildings.


Axis and Allies
Not much in the way of custom graphics in this one however what makes it interesting is that John has designed the scenario and map positions along with modifying the rules and settings to best match the Axis and Allies board game by Milton Bradley.


Well now I'm going to go dip into the last great frontier of scenario hunting which is 'scenarios attached to ancient forum posts' and once that's done I really will have exhausted all possible options, hopefully I can find more of the rare and missing stuff posted previously in this thread or maybe some new stuff! Once the treasure hunt is over I can finally get everything uploaded and finish my Civ2 MGE video, not to mention release all my own scenarios which have been sitting on ice through all this lol, and then move on to ToT & beyond! :)

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Blake00 nice job man!

Heptarchy - The Conquest of the Saxon Kingdoms
If you're a fan of the TV show Vikings like I am and recently saw it's final season then this one will be of even bigger interest to you as it's set around the end of the Viking age and focuses on Ecgberht of Wessex conquering the Saxon kingdoms and unifying Britain.
Style seems similar to War of the roses scenario (can't remember the author's name) Seize the crown. Large map and units with low attack factors. A slugfest. I played that one scenario for months!

Were you hanging around Apolyton back in the early 2000s? Folks were uploading scenarios there, I remember Masis Panos doing lots of Byzantium-themed ones. I contacted him (on twitter I believe) some years ago and asked him what happened to that one scenario he said he was going to finish 20 yrs ago :D Be sure to check out Apolyton for 'ancient forum posts' work.
 
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Blake00 nice job man!

Heptarchy - The Conquest of the Saxon Kingdoms
If you're a fan of the TV show Vikings like I am and recently saw it's final season then this one will be of even bigger interest to you as it's set around the end of the Viking age and focuses on Ecgberht of Wessex conquering the Saxon kingdoms and unifying Britain.
Style seems similar to War of the roses scenario (can't remember the author's name) Seize the crown. Large map and units with low attack factors. A slugfest. I played that one scenario for months!

Were you hanging around Apolyton back in the early 2000s? Folks were uploading scenarios there, I remember Masis Panos doing lots of Byzantium-themed ones. I contacted him (on twitter I believe) some years ago and asked him what happened to that one scenario he said he was going to finish 20 yrs ago :D Be sure to check out Apolyton for 'ancient forum posts' work.

I was on Apolyton back in 99ish but spent more time on SidGames. Didn't know about CivFinactics then either. I couldn't find my old account at Poly so I made a new one in 2016 (when I joined all the other sites) and yeah I've been posted all my stuff there and also searching for things. In fact right now I'm doing huge searches of old Poly stuff for any posts with scenarios attached relating to things that interest me. Not easy though as the Poly advanced search tool is much worse than other sites. Also doing searchs of a bunch of other Civ sites too.. although finding interesting stuff as yeah..

scenarios with influenced or ripped graphics from SMAC has totally been what I've been looking for in my super scenario hunt thread! Looks like this is probably the closest we'll get to a Civ2 scenario with totally ripped and converted SMAC graphics as I've always thought that would be cool to do (hell maybe I'll make one myself one day lol).

Quoting myself here lol.. as with 24 hours of me posting the above and beginning my big forum history searches I've found this very thing, a total conversion SMAC scenario for Civ2.. Once again it's John Valdez / Civpartisan that had a similar dream to me.. except sadly he & his modding partner Andrew didn't finish it. Got quite far too! Will try to get their final files and have a think about whether I can quickly do something with it (eg merge it with John Mavin's scenario) in-between everything else I'm doing haha.

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SCORE! I believe I've obtained one of the rare Alpha Centauri scenarios I mentioned above and more lost treasures! How it all went down was pretty flukey lol!

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Dude, that is a really cool story. Thanks for taking the extra step for the gaming community!
 

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Dude, that is a really cool story. Thanks for taking the extra step for the gaming community!

Cheers Ray! :)

Had some more victories recently over at CivFinatics when a kind fellow named minipow01 saw my list and gave me 4 scenarios to match against my list! These were the results of my checks on his files...

1) Battle of Endor is definitely one I was after over in the CFC thread as Markus's name is in the events file, the file size matches, the intro text matches Dustin's description text on his site perfectly, and the screenshot matches too. Curiously the scenario comes with the readme file from Justin Giles's Tatooine scenario which is a bit misleading. I guess Mark used Justin's graphics and kept the readme as a credit. Missing a title.gif so I added a generic one for fun. Have created a download page for it and can tick this one off as found!


2) Ambra's Star Wars is another one I was after! This is great! His intro text didn't load though so I renamed the files to match. Have created a download page for it and can tick this one off as found!


3) Battle of Hoth by Brandon Dunaway is one that I already have and forgot to mention in my search thread (I think it's already on CFC & Poly but I'll double check that) so I've added a "not Brandon Dunaway's one" to the Hoth entry in my CFC search thread.

4) Finally I checked out his Dune scenario and it turned out to be an entirely different one I didn't know about! I've found author details in the rules file, this was by David Greenfield and he titles it CivDune. There's no intro and the map is completely different to the ones on Dustin's site so yup this is definitely another one. Great news, although that of course means the original 3 I meantioned earlier in this thread are still missing. His custom ocean replacements were incorrectly sized resulting in nasty transparency bleed errors across the whole map so I've fixed it. Missing a title.gif so I added a generic one for fun. Have created a download page for it !
 

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Oh and I just noticed I'm a bit behind with updates here..

Had some more victories with these very lost scenarios thanks to multiple helpers. A collector named Kunto contacted me with a huge file list from his collection that appears mostly from the Apolyton backups, I requested a few of them and some turned out to be ones I was after. Then Solver (who runs Apolyton) gave me access to the entire Apolyton Civ2 downloads backup (containing hundreds scenarios/mods/maps/graphics) which has these same files I was after and more! Then to top it all off Thunderfall (who runs CivFanatics) got back to me with Jeelen/Agent327's MoOJr4 scenario and also gave me a huuuuge file list of the entire CFC downloads area where it looks like even more of Jeelen's work is there which is good as he did some cool enhanced remakes of some of Kobayashi's famous scenarios.

Firstly I was able to find the missing sound files for both The Martian Scenario by James Thomson and the Star Trek Wars Scenario by Joseph Santurri in Solver's Poly backups which was awesome! I've updated their downloads at CFC and on the mirrors.

The MoonLand Modpack v3.0 by Frederic Meunie (CiC)
I'd been after this one for a while as it appears to be one of the first lunar mods that kicked oiff things as John Valdez and others took this and did some great scenarios with it. Both Kunto and Solver had it! I added a title.gif for fun. It's a bit weird with trees and pengiuns etc so not as advanced as I'd hoped but still pretty cool and was quite a popular mod back in the day from the old convos I saw so I've preserved it.
CivFanatics Downloads Area


Star Trek: Mission on Vesta Scenario v2.0 by Dirk Weber (CiC)
Another one I found existed in my giant lost website search but couldn't find the file. Turned out it made it's way to Poly but due to a slightly obscure file name I must have missed it or mixed it up with another. On closer inspection it's not as good as I'd hoped with barely any custom units or graphics but it's still got some interesting stuff going on so have backed it up!
CivFanatics Downloads Area


Command & Conquer 2 Red Alert Scenario by ?Unknown? (CiC)
No it's not my C&C2 one haha.. this is an old one out there that I'd seen mentioned on a few sites but couldn't find a working download. Both Kunto and Solver had it. On closer inspection its nothing special and has barely any custom graphics. Also while the German files hasd custom C&C unit names the english ones were still default Civ2 ones. I don't think the author spoke much English and was just going for pure compatibility with english versions instead of properly transferring all his stuff over. So I did a very quick google translate of the unit names, some events, readme, and intro text. Gave it a title.gif too. Sadly there were no author details in any of the text or Ger files, nor were they on Ultimate Civ2, Apolyton & Dave's Civ2 websites that hosted this scenario unfortunately.
CivFanatics Downloads Area


Master of Orion - MoOjr4 Scenario by J.L. Nijholt (MGE)
This was a very happy moment! I've been trying to get this one for ages and hit setback after setback. It was on WPC but the download was lost, WPC archive org backup was missing, Solver had lost his WPC downloads backup too, CFC download not working, CFC archive org backup was missing it, atomic backup was missing it, I was able to track down Jeelen himself and bring him back to CFC but he'd lost his copy too lol! But then Thunderfall delivered and found it in his backups! This one did NOT disappoint in testing.. it's a total overhaul of the original MOOJr scenario. Heaps of cool improvements!
CivFanatics Downloads Area


On top of that it looks like I can see some more of Jeleen's scenarios in Thunderfalls file list so I'll try to get them too although Thunderfall is a busy guy so it may take a while. But I think it's worth it as like I said above you can see from his old CFC thread he took some of Kobayashi's amazing scifi scenarios and enhanced them. So just as I remove 6 items off the lost list (which I've moved to the top post in this thread) I'm now gonna add 4 new ones haha.. oh dear lol.. but hopefully Thunderfall will be able to find them. Especially as I'm yet to score a Star Trek Voyager scenario as St Leo's one is still missing and now I see Jeelen made one that's missing too.

Here's a copy of my latest lost & found scenario list from over in the CFC thread...

MISSING:
  • Final Fantasy II/IV Modpack by Frank Johnson – ff2damod.zip (225kb) / ffsound1.zip (267kb) / ffsound2.zip (337kb) / ffsound3.zip (338kb) / ffsound4.zip (477kb) Source1
  • Final Fantasy NES Civ by Jim N. / Jomb – FFciv.zip (208kb) Source1
  • Starcraft: Terran War by aland007 - terran.zip (1mb) Source1
  • Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru – dune.zip (246kb) (Puor L'epice! = For the spice!) Source1
  • Dune - The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown – dune.zip (163kb) (not David Emery's Battle for Arrakis) Source1
  • Sands of Dune by James Dahl – dune.zip (293kb) Source1
  • Alpha Centauri Modpack v1.5 by Carlos Alb. Romero DĂ­az - AlphaC15.zip (795kb) Source1
  • Dawn / Day of the Dead by Blackclove / Peter F. Delaney – dawndead.zip (203kb) / deadsnd.zip (503kb) Source1 Source2 Source3
  • German Babylon 5 by unknown - baby5.zip Source1
  • Orion (Alpha Centauri) by unknown- orion.zip Source1
  • Star Wars The Dagobah System by unknown - star.zip Source1
  • (Star Wars) Battle at the Hoth System by J.BĂ©langer – hoth.zip (396kb) (not Brandon Dunaway one) Source1
  • (Star Wars) TATOOINE by J. BĂ©langer – tatooine.zip (71kb) (not Justin Giles one or Chris & Steve's one) Source1
  • Star Wars Rebellion by C. Kerdrain – rebellion.zip (1.3mb) Source1
  • (Star Wars) Battle of Hoth by unknown – hoth.zip (1.55M) Source1
  • Star Trek 7of9 (Voyager) by St Leo – stleo_7of9.zip / stleo_7of9snd.zip Source1 Source2
  • Star Trek First Contact (Kob ST-BAQ Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – first_contact.7z (1.8MB) Source1
  • Star Trek Voyager by Jeelen / Agent327 – voyager.7z (1.3MB) Source1
  • Star Trek Dominion War (Kob ST-DW Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – warp_9.7z (1.9MB) Source1
  • Star Trek TNG by Jeelen / Agent327 – tng.7z (3.1MB) Source1
FOUND:
  • Alpha Centauri by John Mavin – Centauri.zip Source1
  • Battle of Endor by Markus – Endor.zip (351kb) (not josh adams one) Source1
  • Star Wars by Ambra – starwars.zip (2.5mb) or st_1 and 2 zips Source1
  • Moonland 3.0 by Frederic MeuniĂ© – mlv3main.zip / mlv3snd.zip Source1
  • Star Trek: Mission on Vesta by Dirk Weber - trekv2_0.zip (636kb) Source1 Source2
  • Command & Conquer 2 by unknown - cc2_scn.zip Source1
  • SOUND FILES for The Martian Scenario by James Thomson – martia49sound.zip Source1
  • SOUND FILES for Star Trek Wars Scenario by Joseph Santurri – STWSound.zip
  • Master of Orion Jr 4 by Jeelen / Agent327 Source1 Source2 Source3
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Well your posts got me into Civ2 again, I'm playing Angband currently. Also the Dune scenario is just terrible. The sandworms don't move and don't attack even when you're next to them.
 

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Well your posts got me into Civ2 again, I'm playing Angband currently. Also the Dune scenario is just terrible. The sandworms don't move and don't attack even when you're next to them.

Yeah I saw your 2 star review of it (which goes on my account unfortunately haha but oh well). I had a feeling it wouldn't play all that great but was still a nice surprise to find. I suspect the best Dune Civ2 scenarios are those 3 missing ones I mentioned a few posts back, hopefully they surface one day.

Speaking of long lost Civ2 scenarios I just posted a big update to my search and rescue thread which included lots of Civ2 stuff.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...y-tc-scenarios-mods-hunt.135601/#post-7410351

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Back to my own scenarios (which I keep forgetting to post about) here's another 2 new dev diaries from my big Civilization 2 Red Alert 2 scenario. :)

RA2 Dev Diary 04 - Final Super Buildings in the Civilization 2 - Red Alert 2 Scenario
In this fourth dev diary we hit our stride and finish off all building types - big ones, little ones, and the biiiig difficult 3x3 super skyscrapers!
https://www.moddb.com/mods/civilization-2-red-alert-2-siege-of-new-york-scenario/news/final-super-buildings



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RA2 Dev Diary 05 – Finishing Bases & the Map for the Civilization 2 – Red Alert 2 Scenario
In the fifth dev diary we finally finished all city buildings and base buildings allowing us to finalise the design of the map.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/civilization-2-red-alert-2-siege-of-new-york-scenario/news/finishing-the-bases-map



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I think I might remember every single unit icon in Civ II. I loved that fucking game so much, it hurts even looking at Civ V/VI.
 

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I just now discovered this thread and I fully agree with the subject line. I love this fucking game. I have played it for decades and it's never gotten old. I recently downloaded it and played it again for the first time in years and it's no less fun as it was then. Amazing how much a game can endure. Thank you for this thread.
 

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The original releases of Civilization 2 and it's addons were 16bit windows applications that will not run on modern systems so the only way to run them is via a nice XP virtual machine (XP is the better option than 98 as it supports modern resolutions which Civ2 will work in). However the final release of regular Civ2 known as the Multiplayer Gold Edition (MGE) was 32bit as was the followup Test of Time (ToT) re-release too, so because they're 32bit they will run on modern systems HOWEVER they will not truly work. If you start a new game and try to name your ruler or new city or rename a city the text box will cause a crash to desktop on a 64bit OS. Fortunately there are 64bit compatibility patches made by fans for both MGE and ToT that stop the crashes and make them fully functional on modern systems. If GarlandExCon has successfully accessed those text boxes without a crash then it possible that warez site has already applied the fan patches.

Btw I haven't been posting in here about my Civ2 mod projects much as I've been busy working on my preservation project for saving other peoples mods and scenarios. Ended up being a LOT of work (like years of work lol) but hopefully it'll ensure peoples hard work stops getting lost forever as thousands of scenarios were made for Civ 2 and sadly many have been lost forever. More details about the preservation project here:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...oject-log-157-processed-5-collections.671035/

Have managed to rescue a lot of lost MGE scenarios though thanks to private collectors coming forward and CivFanatic/Apolyton admins giving me access to old server backups. Earlier in this thread I was posting about some of the amazing and cool looking scenarios I've found.. Here's a few more amazing ones (download links are in the above thread link). As you can see below I'm taking nice HD screenshots of them which I'll eventually be using to showcase them and hundreds of others in a big Civ2 video series to really show people just how good Civ2 can still be these days. :)

A Star Control scenario
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A Colonization like scenario called Colonialism
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A Warcraft scenario
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A Babylon 5 scenario
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Skulb's Star Trek scenario has really nice graphics, I almost thought it was for ToT not MGE
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An enhanced Mars scenario with freaky units called Martian Dawn
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A really cool Chinese scenario called Zhan Guo
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A Roman Riots scenario where you're literally battling on the Streets of Rome
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An enhanced Master of Orion scenario
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Aliens film moon colony scenario
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Millenium 004 where everyone lives under the sea
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Homeworld video game scenario
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Wing Commander video games scenario
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Transformers cybertron scenario
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Quest for Eldorado soyth american jungle survival scenario
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of course there's countless awesome looking world war 2 scenarios.. eg like Blitzkrieg 1942
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And Red Front
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Mafia city battle scenario
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Hammer of the north vikings scenario
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The Crusades with Cross & Crescent
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Orient express railroad building
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UnderDark fantasy
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Pax California
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How does one run civ2 on a modern machine?

I was able to run it on my laptop without any major adjustments. I was pretty shocked. Windows 10.

I think I just downloaded it at the link below and, as it says, you just run the .exe file and it should work

https://gamesnostalgia.com/game/sid-meiers-civilization-ii
I also recommend using this small mod which adds all sorts of UI QOL features, my favorite being the ability to use the scroll wheel in the production queue. I couldn't live without it.

https://github.com/FoxAhead/Civ2-UI-Additions/releases

It also allows for custom end dates.
 

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