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Civilization VI - Now available, so you can sink all your free time into it

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Turisas, May 11, 2016.

  1. kris Arcane

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    I haven't listened to all music pieces carefully, but two themes have whats sounds like samplings of other songs. Egypt have a bit that sound just like "el condor pasa" by simon and garfunkel. Yet it is stranger still with Germany as the intro to their song is an exact copy of a famous older Swedish song called "jag kan ro utan åror" by Ted Gerdestad. I just kept on singing that song when playing Germany. Considering that someone else said the main theme seemed to have parts from other songs, you might wonder.
     
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  2. Mr. Pink Travelling Gourmand, Crab Specialist

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    it's so deep. theres so many layers (of UI)
     
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  3. rezaf Arbiter

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    A very, very important difference between Civ and the Warlock games is that the latter truly embraced their "hybrid nature" - Civ is at heart still a global strategy game and tries to limit itself when it comes to how far units can move in a given turn and stuff like that.
    In Warlock, having a unit that moved 8 or 10 tiles a turn was not that rare - and under those circumstances, traffic jams are much less likely to occur.
    On the other hand, in Civ, for the vast majority of the game, you're going to move around formations of units being able to only move one or two tiles per turn. 1UPT is always going to cause problems in such conditions.

    The first 1UPT game I remember playing was the original Panzer General. At some point, I played a WW1 mod somebody had tried to make for it.
    It also had many slow moving units, and this caused exactly the same problems Civ5/Civ6 face.
     
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  4. Renegen Arcane

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    The UI is truly terrible because half the time it offers no information. Can anyone tell me how spreading religion works? It's even more opaque than in Civ5. But it's more than just the interface, the whole game is a clusterfuck of "choices" which all prove meaningless because they carry little consequence in light of the time spent deliberating.
     
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  5. MadMaxHellfire Arcane

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    well, "up to civ4" not "until civ4". i thought grammar was on my side :V
     
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  6. ArchAngel Arcane Sad Loser

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    It is worse than that, Egypt kept making their unique chariot while I had Cannons, Knights and others. And it kept buying and spamming them. And it did get me to back off mostly because I had to transfer my reinforcements over water, and also because he had way more money than a 3 city civ should. And the game said they were ahead in technology and culture than me.
    And the worst part, Cleopatra kept telling me how my military is weak and pathetic before and after that war lol (although she gave me very good terms so I stop attacking).
    Everything in the game is borked.

    Later I was in war with Russia that was 1 and half era of technology and culture ahead of me but it basically made no troops. I rolled it easily with Tanks, Battleships and Artillery. It looked like 1st year WWII and I was the Nazi.. which is fitting since I switched my government to Fascism for that war :D
     
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  7. Jimmious Arcane Patron

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    The music pieces for each Civ are based on real songs from each country. Germany's song that you mention is actually based on a pretty famous folk German song named "Ich hab die nacht geträumet".

    Russia's is based on Kalinka(awesomeness) and so on
     
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  8. Commissar Draco Codexia Comrade Colonel Commissar Patron

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    Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
    So is Civ IV still the best of new lot?
     
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  9. an Administrator Self-Ejected

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    Persia's song was great in Civ V
    Waiting for DLC :(
     
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  10. Vival Augur

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    Holy shit the AI is so bad it's downright comical. So i started out as Germany on king difficulty. When my capital was at size 3, i had only a slinger defending it and i got visited by a bunch of barbarians. They parked a horseman and a slinger right next to my city and one more slinger and a warrior were on their way. I thought that was it for sure but nope, they just stood there and took it in the ass from my slinger, didn't pillage, didn't choose a rally point away from the city, nothing.

    Then some time later i had three measly defended cities when my neighbors Arabia and Kongo both declared war out of the blue. Not a bad move since i was a juicy target for their much stronger military. So i prepared to get culturally enriched but again nothing happend, they didn't even visit me with a single unit. After some time Saladin wants peace and offers me gold on top. I see he's got a great work in his basement, "the tooth of the prophet" and i demand that as well and he happily hands it over the fucking retard! The Kang of Kongo came right after that with a white peace offer and that concluded the whole damn war where i should have been a massive underdog but instead gained something without a single fight. What the fuck! I think the AI in this might be rivalling that old 4x game Ascendancy with its nonexsistent AI.
     
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  11. Dickie Arcane Patron

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    I do wish things were better explained in the civilopedia, but here's how archaeologists work:
    Building an archaeologist requires an archaeological museum. The archaeologist is tied to this museum and will disappear once that museum is full of artifacts. You can't move an artifact from a museum that isn't full, so you can't just have one guy fill up all of them. I hope this helps.

    My question is how does border growth work? Is it still base on culture? Is there any way to see how close you are to popping another tile?
     
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  12. kris Arcane

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    The AI shouldn't punish the player, it should give you gifts. Civ6 is your safe space.
     
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  13. Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    Thread seriously needs a DECLINE tag.
     
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  14. Vival Augur

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    I'm down with what feels like the bubonic plague and played this to dull the suffering. Maybe the game has some sort of retard detection routine running in the background and dicided i've got down's syndrome and adjusted the Ai accordingly. Food for thought!
     
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  15. Zboj Lamignat Arcane

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    In other news, I just tried loading a save (tiny map, only played a few turns). That was the longest loading time I've witnessed on any game, any PC, ever. Lol, yeah, fuck this game.
     
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  16. MadMaxHellfire Arcane

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    but if you ask anywhere else people are saying this thing is the best invention ever since the discovery of the pussy.
     
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  17. Jimmious Arcane Patron

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    Well the truth is probably lying somewhere 2/3 of the distance between here and there.
     
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  18. MilesBeyond Cipher

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    The grammar's not wrong, just ambiguous. "Up to" can be interpreted either way. But we're talking about a language where a "lawnmower" can be both a machine that cuts grass and the person that uses the machine, so I wouldn't sweat it.
     
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  19. MadMaxHellfire Arcane

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    fair enough.

    so let me try again: civ1-4 were aiming at complexity. civ5 and 6 are following revolutions instead.


    edit: i'm scared o_O i went to pcgamer to have a laugh at all the circlejerking and instead users are bashing the game. of course it got 93% but people are saying it's crap and even explaining why. small signs of incline. small. but incline.
     
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  20. rezaf Arbiter

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    Stupid question: How do you create great works?
     
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  21. Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    Not by working at Firaxis
     
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  22. baturinsky Arcane

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    Civ6 is complex enough. But it's not the deep kind of complexity. It's opposite to "easy to learn, hard to master" - you can master the game well before you learn all the messy (edit: and badly documented) rules.
     
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  23. baturinsky Arcane

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    With great people (artists etc), when they are standing on the district with building with right slot. They are highlighted with white circle when you select GP.
     
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  24. coldcrow Prophet Patron

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    So let me recap my cursory glances over posts, reviews and screens: noninformative-clusterfuck UI, horrible AI, comic-art design, bad optimization, abstract design choices which make no sense again (civ5) ........... and top it off, fucking 60€. Lol no.
     
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  25. Jimmious Arcane Patron

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    Great People generate them. Or you can get them from other civs. Either by spy-stealing them or just by...getting them :smug:
     
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