Civvie thread (classic FPS reviews/commentary on youtube)

[Rahdulan]

2004 was a crazy year - Half-Life 2, Far Cry and Doom 3.

 

[ironmask]

I get nostalgic when I think of Doom 3 because I always played that game as a kid even though I sucked ass at it and would watch brother play it all the time. Sadly Doom 3 is one of those games for me that I would play years later and see that was not as good as I use to think it was.

 

[Bad Sector]

It was pretty shit but being made for consoles made it shittier. Those tiny corridors, non-existent movement capabilities etc.

Doom 3 was made for PC, the only console version that was released was for the original Xbox about year later and that one was made by a different company (Vicarious Visions) and had several differences to make it work with the console. Even the ports to Xbox 360 and PS3 that were made years later with the BFG edition had to be scaled down graphically because they couldn't handle the original game.

It was Rage that was made for consoles (and AFAIK it was the first game id made themselves that was released on PC and consoles at the same time).

 

[Baron Dupek]

 

[Wunderbar]

wtf where is doom 3 resurrection of evil video
what a hack

 

[Baron Dupek]

wtf where is doom 3 resurrection of evil video
what a hack

There is more important question - Pro TNT when?

 

[flyingjohn]

 

[Echo Mirage]

 

[Fedora Master]

Civvie liking nuDuum is disappointing.

 

[janior]

Civvie liking nuDuum is disappointing.

ofc, he is a retard youtuber

 

[A horse of course]

Civvie liking nuDuum is disappointing.

Well he said it's shit for the first few hours, then it "clicks", but he still hates the platforming, story, cutscenes etc. Also I think he's butthurt by the vaguely anti-SJW "mortally-challenged" jokes or something, I didn't really understand what he was talking about in that bit.

 

[DeepOcean]

It seems to me like they designed the game with optimal solutions in mind and cattle prod you into their solution as if each battle was a puzzle, I see merits in that but boy that can get annoying fast, specially as it seems you need to chainsaw enemies every 30 seconds or so to not run out of ammo and watch that chainsaw animation over and over and over.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I took it that he was taking the RLM approach of avoiding controversy by acting like caring about politics is for losers and whiners.

 

[Fedora Master]

I took it that he was taking the RLM approach of avoiding controversy by acting like caring about politics is for losers and whiners.

Which makes him smarter than the average librul, to be fair.

 

[Echo Mirage]

 

[flyingjohn]

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

imagene de smellz

 

[A horse of course]

Why is he blackjacking everyone?

 

[Wunderbar]

cuz he's a noob

 

[DraQ]

Why is he blackjacking everyone?

Is there a reason not to?

 

[Ezeekiel]

If I wanted to introduce people to Thief I'd probably try to play it more naturally/seriously/slowly. The atmosphere isn't going to be noticed much otherwise.
Others have done funny playthroughs much better than ol' civvie ever could due to the sheer difference in experience with the game.

He should have done Turok 2 or some such instead, imo. More his speed and someone's gotta improve upon GGGGGGGGGGGGman's shit reviews of that title (the review of the original version is trash, and the nightdive(? or whatever) version he suddenly liked, but it fucks with the game way too much).

 

[A horse of course]

Why is he blackjacking everyone?

Is there a reason not to?

By not removing half the point of the game, which is navigating around guard patrols and such.

 

[A horse of course]

By not removing half the point of the game, which is navigating around guard patrols and such.

The other half is fighting zombies, I assume?

Never reply to me again.

 

[Baron Dupek]

By not removing half the point of the game, which is navigating around guard patrols and such.

The other half is fighting zombies, I assume?

no, it was navigating around zombie patrols and such

 

[DraQ]

By not removing half the point of the game, which is navigating around guard patrols and such.

Yeah, that's a problem with game design not player's playstyle.

If you don't want player to methodically dismantle your patrols, then derp freely around level, don't give them means to do just that.
If player can reliably KO and disappear all the guards with impunity, player will KO and disappear all the guards with impunity, if only because it's optimal in the long run when it comes to exploring the level (no pesky patrols getting in the way).

If you want patrols to stay there as continuous obstacle in a stealth oriented game (or RPG/immersive sim while using a stealth approach), then:

• Don't give player blackjack, tranq darts, chokeout, whatever
• Make those means unreliable risking victim's death or alarm, preferably with deferred failure
• Make those means resource dependent (victim wakes and raises alarm unless tied up and gagged, finite supply of rope)
• Make player forfeit ghosting/additional stealth goals by taking out patrols
  
• Make detection inevitable once any of the patrols go missing (ideally make detection thing that happens if player leaves the environment in changed state, not just patrols - ghost is when they never know you were there).
• Make alarm states ratchet