Vaarna_Aarne
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I think you mean the Welsh have left it free.
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CKII is released.
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baturinsky
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Just stumbled on this viking goodness
In my Norse game I left most of the England unconquered. But while I was busy in Scandinavia, my vassals finished the job.
What's special about West African paganism?
Vaarna_Aarne
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It's just Ultra-Hard Mode of the game.
Can it reform?
Vaarna_Aarne
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Yep. Thing is, it's got a lot worse starting position than any of the other pagan religions, and needs to fight a much longer way to reform.
Average Manatee
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West Africans have ultimogeniture as an option before they reform, but I'm not sure if that's a bug or not. Also their cultural-specific retinue have a particularly good composition if you want to go archer-heavy but not more than 60% archers so you don't get rushed in the 3rd day of battle.
Their position is definitely hard mode of the game though. No way out of that corner but through the Arabs.
Their position is definitely hard mode of the game though. No way out of that corner but through the Arabs.
Vaarna_Aarne
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Is it just me, or do vikings get much bigger adventuring Hosts than others?
Space Satan
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It just progresses it seems, the further the more good-for-nothing but well armed scum you'll get. Two 19k stacks is a common thing.
Average Manatee
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It scales similarly to mercs, and seems to go up with realm size as well. The worst part is that they seem to be attrition-free doomstacks, so it's like a mongol invasion that can happen any time, any where. Though at least it has the curtesy to land on a naval border so that you can doomstack your troops on ships.
As Mali I had one happen while fighting the Arabian Empire. 3 stacks of 9k troops landed ontop of the same province that 30k arabs were sieging. They were not hostile to each other.
As Mali I had one happen while fighting the Arabian Empire. 3 stacks of 9k troops landed ontop of the same province that 30k arabs were sieging. They were not hostile to each other.
Vaarna_Aarne
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This seems counter-productive for both sides.
Average Manatee
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The arabs took a bit of attrition but the province sieged instantly and then they split up.
It did in fact work out fine for me, but only because I assassinated the leader of the host which ended the war instantly, then I just waited around while leading the Arabs into attrition-heavy provinces until they became manageable for my army of about 20k.
Naturally the Arabs immediately produced another stack of 30k troops, because fucking arabs. Abbasids stretched along everything from their starting position in Asia Minor to control of much of Iberia, minus my position in Mauretania.
Vaarna_Aarne
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Yea there seems to be something funky going on with Arab levies in some circumstances.
baturinsky
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How? Catched Umayyad in the middle of civil war?
Average Manatee
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That's your best bet at the beginning when you are much weaker. Alternatively, start a civil war. By letting them declare war on you, drag it out for a decade so their vassals hate the lords guts while the levies attrition everywhere, then attack and eat up a few counties of rebelling vassals.
Usually it's Idrisids you are fighting rather than Umayyads though. That's some bad luck in RK's game if the Umayyads are in his way, since they are much stronger.
I think I'll just convert to Norse and be done with this bullshit. Their doomstack is nigh unbeatable. They take no casualty and just rapes. Until their AI bugged out and declared war on the little Muslim county Caranias without a single fleet to take them there. GG retarded AI.
Also, why the fuck does Mali only has access to just ONE merc company?
I've broken through to Portugal and moved my capital to Leon - and still there's not company to hire except for Ghanaian Band.
I've broken through to Portugal and moved my capital to Leon - and still there's not company to hire except for Ghanaian Band.
Who would want to work for niggers?
Average Manatee
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They had zero merc companies up until about a week ago. Don't think you'll ever get more unless you convert
Think of it as an opportunity to play differently to what you've done before.
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