CKII is released.

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the elites converted to Judaism and the vast majority remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

 

[Kattze]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the elites converted to Judaism and the vast majority remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

Why not Jewish characters and Tengri provinces? That would be a good enough abstraction.

 

[Cassidy]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present and Paradox being a bastion of censorship in the name of liberalism. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the pureblood melonheads converted to Judaism and the mongrels and sapiens manboons remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

Fixed.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the elites converted to Judaism and the vast majority remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

Why not Jewish characters and Tengri provinces? That would be a good enough abstraction.

Well, the problem then is mostly with the fact that if you continue trying to fix rebels into a credible threat, Khazaria won't survive twenty years from grand campaign start. And if you give them some kind of bonus against religious penalties, you open a different can of worms.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Modders fixed this. And this proper boofed rebels will gass all Joos make Khazaria unplayable argument is even more fitting for the Roman Empires. Both Original and German copy. As it is now both states are unrealistically stable.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I still wouldn't get my hopes up for Khazars as a guaranteed pick. I'd more suspect various barony or county level Jews in the Middle-East.

If it's even coming. Paradox has never even mentioned Jews outside of Victoria.

 

[Hornawkawk]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present and Paradox being a bastion of censorship in the name of liberalism. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the pureblood melonheads converted to Judaism and the mongrels and sapiens manboons remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

Fixed.

you mean 'cleved'

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Khazaria is out of the question given CK2's method of handling multi-religious states at the present and Paradox being a bastion of censorship in the name of liberalism. It simply cannot be done when in that case only the pureblood melonheads converted to Judaism and the mongrels and sapiens manboons remained a hodge-podge of local faiths.

Fixed.

you mean 'cleved'

Paradox needs to make more games going further back so a proper World History According To Cleve series of mods can be made.

 

[G.O.D]

Am I misremembering this, or did they at some point announce that there were only going to be 4 expantion DLCs for CK2?
Still would like to see a Theocracy DLC.

Edit: nvm forgot about Sunset Invasion, which i don't have, so they are already at 5.

 

[Malakal]

Am I misremembering this, or did they at some point announce that there were only going to be 4 expantion DLCs for CK2?
Still would like to see a Theocracy DLC.

Edit: nvm forgot about Sunset Invasion, which i don't have, so they are already at 5.

Not sure if they gave a number. I think the point is to make new dlcs as long as they sell.

 

[G.O.D]

True. But since EU4 is released, I think they don't want it to compete with another CK2 dlc though. I would assume they would want to market EU4 towards CK2 players, which makes another DLC less likely because of financial considerations.

 

[Brinko]

All I recall them saying is they were going to do 2 years of DLC.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/04/c...quer-the-next-two-years-with-more-expansions/

 

[Kattze]

I still wouldn't get my hopes up for Khazars as a guaranteed pick. I'd more suspect various barony or county level Jews in the Middle-East.

If it's even coming. Paradox has never even mentioned Jews outside of Victoria.

Jewniggers. Nobody believes in the juju in Semien.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

If the pace is the same as before, we will probably have an announcement for the next major DLC soon enough.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Another expansion? Well, there goes another 50 - 70 hours that I'm going to waste on this game.

 

[Spectacle]

Am I misremembering this, or did they at some point announce that there were only going to be 4 expantion DLCs for CK2?
Still would like to see a Theocracy DLC.

Edit: nvm forgot about Sunset Invasion, which i don't have, so they are already at 5.

Not long after the game they announced that they had specific plans for 4 big DLCs, and those have all been released. But they said nothing about those ever being the only big DLCs, and have since said that they now have plans for another year's worth of DLCs.

I think tengri provinces with largely jewish rulers would be a good way to represent khazaria. The rebel situation could be handled by giving tengri provinces lesser revolt risk if they are ruled by jews of the same culture. The main issue I see with this is that you would make characters that are currently playable if you have the Old Gods unplayable unless you have the Jew DLC.

 

[Hornawkawk]

I want to be a jew.

 

[Delterius]

The main issue I see with this is that you would make characters that are currently playable if you have the Old Gods unplayable unless you have the Jew DLC.

I see no issue with that business strategy of yours, Sir.

 

[Spectacle]

The main issue I see with this is that you would make characters that are currently playable if you have the Old Gods unplayable unless you have the Jew DLC.

I see no issue with that business strategy of yours, Sir.

Would 500 pages of rage on the official forums change your mind?

 

[Delterius]

We can always balance it out with another DLC for Byzantium. The romanphiles will defend us to their deaths if both DLCs are released jointly.

 

[Kattze]

Another problem would be that Khazars should be able to raid and AFAIK raiding is tied to a pagan religion. Unless they changed it to a by a culture basis (ie. Altaic instead of Tengri), they would have to make Jewish religion rulers to be able to raid (which would not really work with Semien) or have the Khazars be stuck in the steppes where everyone of their neighbours can raid except for themselves.

 

[Commissar Draco]

RUS! needs proper DLC too; the Seniority system of Kievan Rus with joint Capital in Novogrod-Kiev was unique on such scale and length in Jewrope and it cannot be properly recreated by making Russian Princess Feudal Dukes... Khazaria can be add-on to this as it was chief enemy of RUS! in IX-X Centuries. Well we'll see if Paradox has some backbone left to do this.

 

[Spectacle]

Another problem would be that Khazars should be able to raid and AFAIK raiding is tied to a pagan religion. Unless they changed it to a by a culture basis (ie. Altaic instead of Tengri), they would have to make Jewish religion rulers to be able to raid (which would not really work with Semien) or have the Khazars be stuck in the steppes where everyone of their neighbours can raid except for themselves.

Maybe the Khazars should be a Jewish heresy? Then they could have special mechanics to represent their steppe nomad way of life.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Let's just see if Paradox doesn't pussy out over the subject as usual before speculating further.

 

[Grinolf]

Some Paradox devs commented in the past, that ladder succession is too fucking complicated to implement. That's why they still didn't add it. And without it, internal struggle between various Rus princes can't be properly represented. Of course they still could change their mind. They didn't want implement Tanistry also, but that succession isn't nearly as complicated.
Another option would be improving moddability, so players could create new succession themselves. But in terms of moddability CK2 is still a failure compared to other Paradox games.
But there is another problem with it. Why someone would even want to keep such abomination and not ditch it with first opportunity? Real Rus princes failed to do it, even when they had such possibility, until the end of 14 century. But it wasn't very smart thing for them to do. I don't see any reason, why human player would want to repeat that experience.