Game News Dark Souls 2 Announced, Coming to PC

[Metro]

It's certainly less JRPGish than most standard JRPG games. The story is certainly bizarre but I guess love isn't the answer.

 

[St. Toxic]

Demon's had a much bigger Jap feel to it, as if it was based on some anime that took itself too seriously. I almost kind of miss it in DA.

 

[Jasede]

That's the irony of it. It has a better western feeling than modern western RPGs.

 

[St. Toxic]

That's the irony of it. It has a better western feeling than modern western RPGs.

How does that work? Shouldn't a western feeling be representative of what a modern western RPG feels like? Dark Souls doesn't feel like a lazy cash-grab.

(DS2 on the other hand feels a bit too western already)

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Dark and Demon's Souls are an upper tier of average games, but I like them only for the fact that the hype surrounding them (especially Dark Souls on the codex) is rather hilarious. If the third instalment will turn out to somehow be "decline" for the fans and rage ensues, I will like them even more.

Hype? There are maybe 20 or so people here that have praised the game, less than that if we count only the ones that really like it instead of just being "pleasantly surprised".

I was actually serious.

Or at least codex serious.

Dark souls did not have:

Gaia
Emo kids
Bizarre story where love is the answer
14 year old generals
Androgynous teenagers
Materia
Phoenix downs

[...]

While you could argue it isn't a western RPG, it certainly doesn't seem weeaboo to me either.

To be honest, all this tells me is that DS is not a Playstation-era Final Fantasy.

 

[Anthony Davis]

Dark and Demon's Souls are an upper tier of average games, but I like them only for the fact that the hype surrounding them (especially Dark Souls on the codex) is rather hilarious. If the third instalment will turn out to somehow be "decline" for the fans and rage ensues, I will like them even more.

Hype? There are maybe 20 or so people here that have praised the game, less than that if we count only the ones that really like it instead of just being "pleasantly surprised".

I was actually serious.

Or at least codex serious.

Dark souls did not have:

Gaia
Emo kids
Bizarre story where love is the answer
14 year old generals
Androgynous teenagers
Materia
Phoenix downs

[...]

While you could argue it isn't a western RPG, it certainly doesn't seem weeaboo to me either.

To be honest, all this tells me is that DS is not a Playstation-era Final Fantasy.

Ok, I'll tell you what I thought of the game.

Tactical real time combat where you have to actively watch both your opponents and the environment. While this is definitely NOT everyone's cup of tea, it was well done and balanced risk versus reward.

A lot of exploration with rewards and dangers around every corner.

A (twisted) sense of humor.

A game that punishes recklessness and arrogance.

Lots of stats and gear to level up.

Some areas with amazing atmosphere.

A unique world where you are an undead with no memory or concept of your previous, life or of the new world before you.

Rewarding boss fights.

A pretty crazy and harsh multiplayer system.




I fully appreciate that this is not for everyone. I prematurely wrote it off as well, but I am thankful Justin cherry and josh sawyer talked me in to playing it. It was a very rewarding experience.

 

[Murk]

Hahaha, saverok was truly badass.

I suppose it's a jRPG because it's actually a Japanese RPG -- however, for a hack'n'slash it's pretty dope.

I also enjoy mispronouncing Demons' Souls outloud.

 

[Black]

That's the irony of it. It has a better western feeling than modern western RPGs.

How does that work? Shouldn't a western feeling be representative of what a modern western RPG feels like? Dark Souls doesn't feel like a lazy cash-grab.

But its port does.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

Statements to about "staying true to their roots while enticing new players" seems like the kind of generic marketing BS that you would hear anytime a series changes hands. So I'm far more concerned about the fact of the director change than anything the new director says about the game - DkS & DeS seemed like they were a product of a fairly unified vision that would be pretty heavily affected by the lost of its creator, regardless of how faithful his replacement tried to be.

On the other hand, hopefully the server based multi-player means fewer lagstabs.

 

[St. Toxic]

But its port does.

I hate to say it, but it has the same performance issues as the original. They haven't really removed or added anything to the port.

 

[Black]

But its port does.

I hate to say it, but it has the same performance issues as the original. They haven't really removed or added anything to the port.

Isn't that the definition of a lazy port and money grab? They haven't removed any of the issues they knew of and didn't take any advantage of it running on PCs.

 

[commie]

Dark and Demon's Souls are an upper tier of average games, but I like them only for the fact that the hype surrounding them (especially Dark Souls on the codex) is rather hilarious. If the third instalment will turn out to somehow be "decline" for the fans and rage ensues, I will like them even more.

Hype? There are maybe 20 or so people here that have praised the game, less than that if we count only the ones that really like it instead of just being "pleasantly surprised".

Well those 20 were certainly vociferous and deluded enough to think that this was the best RPG evah. Fuck, I even tried it on an XBAWKS to see if somehow I missed the finer points of this epic of the ages on the PC as they all tried to suggest it was somehow better there and the port didn't do the game justice. What I found was the same repetitive shit brown, diarrhea green textures on the 'grim dark' sewers and ruins, the same pot smashing fun and NPC's that stand in place amongst hordes of undead just waiting for you to show up, enemies that fall for the same button mashing attacks over and over etc. just as on the PC with the added fucktardation of having to use a controller.

This better than Witcher 2? Fucking risible! It's not better than Two Worlds! Barely better than Arcania!

 

[Surf Solar]

How long habe you played the game commie, 5 Minutes per chance. Because most of what you write is either bullshit or flat out lies.

 

[AMG]

Ok, I'll tell you what I thought of the game.


Tactical real time combat where you have to actively watch both your opponents and the environment. While this is definitely NOT everyone's cup of tea, it was well done and balanced risk versus reward.

Don't get hit and hit others is hardly tactical. DISCLAIMER : I PLAYED AS A WARRIOR, I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA IF MAGIC IS MORE INTERESTING, FUCK OFF

A lot of exploration with rewards and dangers around every corner.

Meh, a lot of exploration is a bit of a stretch. Most of the levels are pretty straightforward, with a few "secrects" and "hidden passages" here and there. You just have to keep eyes open for white lights and drop from correct ledges or play awful platformer sections to get there.

A (twisted) sense of humor.

I didn't find anything humorous in the game. Although every NPC is amused by something, because they are laughing randomly at the end of every sentece.

A game that punishes recklessness and arrogance.

That's true.

Lots of stats and gear to level up.

That's true as well, but stats alone do not make game better. There is hardly any depth in character creation, you just get enough of those stats that you need to use the gear you want and dump the rest into vit/end. Good old diablo approach. DISCLAIMER : I PLAYED AS A WARRIOR I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA IF MAGIC IS MORE INTERESTING, FUCK OFF, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PVP EITHER

Some areas with amazing atmosphere.

I find the atmosphere aspect of the game heavily overrated, but it is true that areas are very well designed. Well most of them (sup Demon Ruins)

A unique world where you are an undead with no memory or concept of your previous, life or of the new world before you.

Thats true as well, however I don't know maybe I am daft or sth, but I find the stroytelling of the game a bit too subtle. Or rather nonexistent. I seriously have no fucking idea what the game was about.

Rewarding boss fights.

Only few of them unfortunately. The game is very promising at the beginning, where it is very difficult and the first real boss (gargoyles) was a very pleasant surprise, because that fight doesn't have a retaded pattern you just have to learn and you are good. Unfortunately it quickly makes a 180 degree turn and next boss is the very embodiment of retarded pattern fight. And it is like that for the rest of the game basically, one good boss, next one boring.

A pretty crazy and harsh multiplayer system.

Dunno bout that, I played offline


All in all, this game is basically Diablo in different perspective that got infected with consolitis. Except it is actually hard, well at the beginning at least. It is a good game, however severely overrated. Maybe people are so used to playing shit games, that when they get to play a well done one they think it is the BEST GAME EVAR.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Dark and Demon's Souls are an upper tier of average games, but I like them only for the fact that the hype surrounding them (especially Dark Souls on the codex) is rather hilarious. If the third instalment will turn out to somehow be "decline" for the fans and rage ensues, I will like them even more.

Hype? There are maybe 20 or so people here that have praised the game, less than that if we count only the ones that really like it instead of just being "pleasantly surprised".

Yes, the fact that you can almost hear some prominent users fapping when they mention DS is not hype at all. Let's argue some more about semantics, because it makes us look witty and level-headed.

Codex has a thing for overhyping some average games to hilarious (and a bit sad at the same time) levels and while DS might not be up there with New Vegas in that regard it's still lulz overhype when you consider the actual quality of the game itself.

Maybe people are so used to playing shit games, that when they get to play a well done one they think it is the BEST GAME EVAR.

Especially if you're a PS3 user which makes you frantically look for at least a few not-pointless games to justify the fact that you spent money on an expensive blue ray player.

 

[Jasede]

Woe betide us when we actually like a game and don't drown it in hatred. It couldn't possibly be because it's a good game. No, it must be baseless hype and empty fanboyism.

And I had ~plenty~ of fun with my PS3, thank you very much. Even when I was a kid I never bought more than 3-4 games for a console, and that was fine.


You know, if you think our adoration of the game is childish you haven't yet realized just how silly your complaining about that is. It's like hating on Fallout or Planescape: Torment - which some of you do but is generally not done. Or hating on Doom or Syndicate or any other great fucking game: Thief, System Shock, you name it.

If anything it makes you look tasteless.

 

[Bladderfish]

I think Anthony's point about stats and gear isn't that its Diablo or WoW like: a treadmill to keep you playing. The gear in fact is a work of design genius. Everything is viable, no weapon is worthless (well, maybe a few are ... the ghostblade springs to mind) and there numerous different types of build if you want to try role-playing a certain type of character. I can't remember the last time I played a game where a basic spear or rapier found at the start of the game is still useful at the end of the game (and not just because of the upgrade system, but because the move set for each weapon is a matter of personal preference).

I can understand why this game isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I can't help but label the naysayers as people who simply didn't give it enough time or couldn't be bothered to install dsmfix to make the mouse viable. The more you play, the more you realise that the game is greater than the sum of its parts. I'm not sure if I can define it better than that; all I know is that, after I'd finished my first playthrough, I realised Dark Souls had some of the best gameplay and world design I'd ever seen.

Still, each to their own.

 

[St. Toxic]

Isn't that the definition of a lazy port and money grab? They haven't removed any of the issues they knew of and didn't take any advantage of it running on PCs.

That's true, I guess, but there's always the option of making a port with even worse performance and removing certain features in the process. Maybe that actually takes a certain effort, and is done in the interest of art rather than geld?

 

[Black_Willow]

It couldn't possibly be because it's a good game. No, it must be baseless hype and empty fanboyism.

Spazmo: Odds are, something you like very much sucks. Why? Because this is RPG Codex.

 

[Castanova]

blah blah blah

In other words, AMG is one of those people who thinks only one game is good per century.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Yes, the fact that you can almost hear some prominent users fapping when they mention DS is not hype at all. Let's argue some more about semantics, because it makes us look witty and level-headed.

Yeah, it isn't - when anyone hears the word "hype" they think there's a legion of people fapping over the game, how should I know you actually meant "some proeminent users" (how many is that? 10)? That was a gross exaggeration, that's all.

 

[AMG]

blah blah blah

In other words, AMG is one of those people who thinks only one game is good per century.

? I wrote it is a good game, I even compared it to diablo, another very good game. However placing it in the same tier as PST, Fallout and Syndicate as some guy above did is just stupid. Attaching some ridiculous labels, of epic exploration, sense of humour(seriously?), dangers at every corner - it is a hack and slash for fucks sake, it sounds like I am reading an ad, rather than somebodys thoughts on the game.

 

[Mortmal]

You cant place it in the same tier as pst fallout and syndicate, those are from a different long past era, so long ago, hardly any ground to compare then . Best game evah ? Ah i dont know but it more entertaining and more memorable than anything bioware or bethesda released in the last few years , definitively yes , its even above witcher 2 in my opinion, thats doesnt mean witcher 2 is shit, witcher 2 is fantastic game, but dark souls beat it. No its not just an hack and slash, no button smashing like every next gen consoles game, you do that, you wont pass the first encounters.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

To be fair, it seems like Dark Souls is one of the only contemporary games that people (including myself) seem to have alot of unreserved love for even after playing it. So I can understand why people who don't like it very much feel like its overrated. To my mind "people saying they really like a game" in a thread discussing the game and "hyping" are different things, but I can see how they would feel the same if you didn't like the game.

On the other hand, repeatedly raging against the game is kind of like hyping it, but in reverse. Whats the opposite of hype? being edgy?

 

[felipepepe]

Whats the opposite of hype? being edgy?

Hipsters.

Anyway, Dark Souls is pretty much a love/hate game, I can understand people not liking it, but to go bashing it like it's just another shitty aRPG is simply retarded... is like going "PS:T has shitty gameplay and it's a storyfag game, HOW CAN YOU SAY IT'S GOOD?"