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Dark Souls Sucks

Lyric Suite

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Just admit you want all games to be slop.
 

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Calling Dark Souls is an action RPG is weird. As shitty as Elder Scrolls games are they aren’t even remotely similar in design and in general DS has barely any similarities with older CRPG in general aside from the superficial stat system. Comparing them is stupid.

Dark Souls is like a 3D version of old Japanese side scrolling action games rather than an action rpg like ES, Diablo, and the like.

Including that classic archaic brutal game design which as far as I’m aware at the time when Dark Souls released on console was revolutionary because those were the times of the cinematic and casual games were popular.

This is the reason why for so many gamers DS is like the first “real” gaming experience they’ve had.
 

abija

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If you need to repeat bosses over and over again just to be able to defeat them it's because they telegraph their attacks poorly. Sometimes the developers do it on purpose.
Or they require a higher level of execution than journalist mode. An encounter you see first time with a decent number of abilities that actually require you to understand and outplay them can easily last several hours. From games are seriously undertuned and most abilities can be bruteforced without actually understanding them. Yet fucktard pretend gamers still complain.
 

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Dark Souls is on par with any of the greats from the 90s, which for a game released in 2011 is like a miracle, literally a unicorn in a sea of shit and decline.
This is what the entire FromSoft legacy is based upon - Total garbage encounter design that only players stupid enough to engage with it will put up with it.

Dude, you're showing your naked bias here.

I'm not a Souls fan, but what you say completely ignores what From made years before any of those games were made.

The Armoured Core and Kings Field/Shadow Tower series' are much a part of said legacy any anything they've made after the Souls games.
 

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Calling Dark Souls is an action RPG is weird. As shitty as Elder Scrolls games are they aren’t even remotely similar in design and in general DS has barely any similarities with older CRPG in general aside from the superficial stat system. Comparing them is stupid. Dark Souls is like a 3D version of old Japanese side scrolling action games rather than an action rpg like ES, Diablo, and the like.
DS is not an action-rpg like ES or Diablo, it's an action-rpg like Dragon Slayer, Crystalis, Faxanadu, Soul Blazer, etc. This subgenre was around before Blizzard and Bethesda even existed, it's weird to imply their games are more representative.
 

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Lol, found yet another reviewer who uses Dark Souls as his golden standard for everything. It's like every 2nd review you find is done by a Soulscuck.

Are we not tired of this yet?

 
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These games are just ugly throughout. And I don't just mean graphically - I mean artistically as well. Just look at this shit. Is this an inside joke? Why does everything in these games look so shitty?
I do agree with this statement here

also the story is nonexistent shit.

I like the games though, they give me the same itch as "I wanna be the guy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZrQM8SMoU
 

Lyric Suite

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Just admit you want all games to be slop.
Quite the opposite I am very tired of every other game being souls slop.

Again with this imaginary bullshit.

No, the vast majority of games are not Souls or even Souls inspired whatsoever. I'm talking about the absolute majority, to the point you couldn't even make a comprehensive list of Souls games without googling and without hitting obscure ghetto shit after the third or forth name.

There has been and never will be a Souls influence in the mainstream, precisely because the design principles of Souls are the very opposite of slop.
 

Lyric Suite

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Lol, found yet another reviewer who uses Dark Souls as his golden standard for everything. It's like every 2nd review you find is done by a Soulscuck.

Are we not tired of this yet?
You tell me, you're the one who decided to watch a review of a videogame on YouTube.

It's worse than that. He went out of his way to find a review of a Souls-like (a ghetto indie one i never heard of before, many such cases) to complain about Souls being used as a measuring standard.
 

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It's worse than that. He went out of his way to find a review of a Souls-like (a ghetto indie one i never heard of before, many such cases) to complain about Souls being used as a measuring standard.
I didn't go out of my way to find a Souls-like anything. I was looking at a review completely unrelated. But surprise surprise! I'm greeted by Dark Souls comparisons yet again. This shit is everywhere like a cancer. You don't even need to go looking for it - it finds you.
 

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It's worse than that. He went out of his way to find a review of a Souls-like (a ghetto indie one i never heard of before, many such cases) to complain about Souls being used as a measuring standard.
I didn't go out of my way to find a Souls-like anything. I was looking at a review completely unrelated. But surprise surprise! I'm greeted by Dark Souls comparisons yet again. This shit is everywhere like a cancer. You don't even need to go looking for it - it finds you.

It's literal Souls-like what the fuck else would it be compared to.

Next you'll tell me you can't even check a random review of a Diablo clone without Diablo being mentioned there somewhere!
 

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And there it is. Elden Ring sold a lot, therefore, Souls is now shit.
And there you go, spinning my words again.

I cited many reasons why Souls is shit but you keep choosing to ignore all that and pretending my only argument is Popular = Shit. You have nothing but Strawman arguments.
 

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It's worse than that. He went out of his way to find a review of a Souls-like (a ghetto indie one i never heard of before, many such cases) to complain about Souls being used as a measuring standard.
I didn't go out of my way to find a Souls-like anything. I was looking at a review completely unrelated. But surprise surprise! I'm greeted by Dark Souls comparisons yet again. This shit is everywhere like a cancer. You don't even need to go looking for it - it finds you.
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy is a soulslike, by the way
 

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Who's worse? Larianfags who compare every new RPG to Baldur's Gate 3? Or Soulcucks who compare every action game to Dark Souls?
You who listen to them.

You're going crazy because normies, game journalists, and YouTube reviewers compare things to *CURRENT POPULAR THING*. Get a grip.
What else are you supposed to do when you don't play games?
 

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Op is a right in the sense that Dark souls propelled up half-inspired games by a truck ton. Now every game has at least dodge rolling mechanics, which are GARBAGE, nobody fights like this.
 

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Calling Dark Souls is an action RPG is weird. As shitty as Elder Scrolls games are they aren’t even remotely similar in design and in general DS has barely any similarities with older CRPG in general aside from the superficial stat system. Comparing them is stupid. Dark Souls is like a 3D version of old Japanese side scrolling action games rather than an action rpg like ES, Diablo, and the like.
DS is not an action-rpg like ES or Diablo, it's an action-rpg like Dragon Slayer, Crystalis, Faxanadu, Soul Blazer, etc. This subgenre was around before Blizzard and Bethesda even existed, it's weird to imply their games are more representative.
I was responding to Lyric Suite bringing up the TES games, and all of those you mention are exactly what I referenced. 2D action sidescrollers, but I think it’s more accurate to just refer to them as action games as the RPG elements are minimal or only superficial (using “RPG elements” as referring traditional CRPG design of a system guided by stats).
 

Odoryuk

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Op is a right in the sense that Dark souls propelled up half-inspired games by a truck ton
OP is very confusing. He admits that this thread is not about Dark Souls 1, when he was faced with praise for this game from a different user, then he says that Dark Souls is bad, because Salt and Sanctuary is bad
 

Drakortha

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Op is a right in the sense that Dark souls propelled up half-inspired games by a truck ton
OP is very confusing. He admits that this thread is not about Dark Souls 1, when he was faced with praise for this game from a different user, then he says that Dark Souls is bad, because Salt and Sanctuary is bad
It's not so much about Dark Souls 1 as it about everything that has spawned from it. But you and the other Soulcucks in here are the ones who keep bringing up Dark Souls 1 specifically, so I'm addressing it.

I don't know why I'm still replying to you. You're such a fucking retard.
 

Odoryuk

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But you and the other Soulcucks in here are the ones who keep bringing up Dark Souls 1 specifically, so I'm addressing it.
Did you see the thread's title?
I don't know why I'm still replying to you. You're such a fucking retard.
You need people to reply to you, that's the whole point of this thread
 

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