People News David Gaider: On Romances in Games

[Lancehead]

These plots are tertiary, optional content… something to add to your enjoyment, and add to your level of emotional investment in the characters… and that seems to get forgotten when people discuss it at length.
Such is the case whenever any piece of content gets discussed online. Under a microscope, whatever you’re discussing seems like all there is… and thus is clearly the most important thing ever.

You know, that's the problem. If you're going to put romances in your game, make them important to the main story/plot. Otherwise you'd attract the crowd that play the game for romances, infest BSN forums, BioWare ends up pandering to them, and... tali sweat formula gets made.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I think Gaider feelings are hurt because people are treating Bioware games as dating simulators. The romances are a small part of the content, but people concentrate on them because it is the only thing that Bioware does that is different

You're tripping if you think that there are romances in Bioware games because the gameplay is shitty. It's the other way round.

 

[St. Toxic]

Replace romances with midget shit porn and watch the quality of your demographics improve.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Romances or not Biowhore since Shattered Steel makes one game over and over again. Join Templars, save the world from Ancient Evil TM after after visiting 4 hubs and be shrink for your whiny meatbag companions. Of course changing from ISO and solid if not bland setting like DnD into 3D FPS ala Gears of Wars didn't helped much but It's not Biodrones fault only thing different from competition is furrfag sex.... BTW since DA3 will have only Humans as PCs again &St Toxic won't get his poison I'm afraid. Gaider betrayed RPG genre and so should he bask in:



No mercy for betrayers.

 

[St. Toxic]

BTW since DA3 will have only Humans as PCs again &St Toxic won't get his poison I'm afraid.

What ever happened to platonic love, Draco? The human PC's could simply watch the midgets from afar and jerk each other off.

 

[Brayko]

GaiderDex™

 

[laclongquan]

It's no sin to follow a precise formula. Japanese's Dynasty Warriors, Romance of Three Kingdoms, etc.. are all proofs of this concept. Hell, the Russian do it all the time.

It's sinful to make a bad game and hype it to feverish pitch. Worse, to boast of its worst quality.

I dont mind Biowarean games. I do mind lower-than-shit biowarean games.

 

[WalmartJesus]

His post kinda sounds like the last cry for help of a man about to go under. Makes you feel like casting him a rope (ie, tell him to make a game in which the hero can't have sex with anybody), except you don't think he's still able to grab it.

You do know what will happen if you WILL give him the rope, don't you?

When a person is so undesirable to the opposite sex that not even Hamburger Hepler would fuck them....I can kinda understand that person putting a noose around their neck.

 

[pan]

If this Gaider fellow were a proper gentleman, he would not have dignified that fan with a response.

 

[DeepOcean]

BTW since DA3 will have only Humans as PCs again &St Toxic won't get his poison I'm afraid.

What ever happened to platonic love, Draco? The human PC's could simply watch the midgets from afar and jerk each other off.

I'm kinda happy there will be a DA3, imagine if Bioware died right now and Gaider and Hamburger Hepler were fired, Fargo or Obsidian, feeling pity, could hire them and we could have midget porn on wasteland 2 and Project Eternity. Imagine: Bob and John, two midgets mutated by radiation, alone on a cave forgotten by civilization after the nuclear war, after many hardships and emotional engaging dialog, develop their sensitive side and start jerking each other off to forget the war.

 

[Dorateen]

This Gaider appears to be a person of low character.

 

[Minttunator]

It's an inherently incomprehensible axiom. Why would you take away from them the only thing that apparently gives them the meaning of their lives?

Yeah, the Biodrones are kind of like those dudes who get married to their pillow. They allow the rest of us to feel just a little bit better about ourselves.

As for Gaider, a part of me feels sorry for him - but then I remember that all this drama is providing us with more entertainment than Bioware's games have of late. Watching the D-man struggle with admitting that he's become essentially a glorified fanfic writer is hilarious - until he admits that, there's no hope of redemption.

 

[waywardOne]

Fuck you, Codex.

Gaider should not have multiple threads. Even one thread is pushing it. What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Azrael the cat]

These plots are tertiary, optional content… something to add to your enjoyment, and add to your level of emotional investment in the characters… and that seems to get forgotten when people discuss it at length.
Such is the case whenever any piece of content gets discussed online. Under a microscope, whatever you’re discussing seems like all there is… and thus is clearly the most important thing ever.

You know, that's the problem. If you're going to put romances in your game, make them important to the main story/plot. Otherwise you'd attract the crowd that play the game for romances, infest BSN forums, BioWare ends up pandering to them, and... tali sweat formula gets made.

Pre-fucking-cisely.

It also prevents there from being an 'everyone can romance anyone' situation, as different characters tie into to the themes and plot in different ways.

 

[pan]

These plots are tertiary, optional content… something to add to your enjoyment, and add to your level of emotional investment in the characters… and that seems to get forgotten when people discuss it at length.
Such is the case whenever any piece of content gets discussed online. Under a microscope, whatever you’re discussing seems like all there is… and thus is clearly the most important thing ever.

You know, that's the problem. If you're going to put romances in your game, make them important to the main story/plot. Otherwise you'd attract the crowd that play the game for romances, infest BSN forums, BioWare ends up pandering to them, and... tali sweat formula gets made.

Pre-fucking-cisely.

It also prevents there from being an 'everyone can romance anyone' situation, as different characters tie into to the themes and plot in different ways.

Indeed, good sirs, indeed. Why, at the very mention of such a splendid thing my mind is drawn to a most dear memory of mine; that of Boone, of Fallout: New Vegas fame. His enchanting eyes and agreeable musculature were enough to oblige my interests, from whence I found myself engaged with him, in a most compelling of romantic tales. It was a matter of fact, that the splendid intricacies of his character t'would be enough to satisfy my lust for complexity, but was above all his merit, was the masterful way in which the writer, a certain Chris Avellone, was able to weave him into the plot. Without the camaraderie and brotherhood that our trysts provided, I do not know how we could have defeated Ceasar. Truly, it was the greatest of tales.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

This Gaider appears to be a person of low character.

But he still has some webcred for making the Ascension mod for BG2 in my book.

 

[SearchEngine]

Next step: Allow players to romance their furniture.

 

[mediocrepoet]

They tried that already, focus groups said it ruined immersion by reminding them too much of real life.

 

[Deuce Traveler]

Romantic dialogues in game are predominantly written by male programmers, which means that engaging in RPG romances is equivalent to engaging in gay cybersex with your partner for the night pretending to be a girl. Oh, and your partner is also a slut because he's cybersexed with the majority of RPG fans who purchased his game.

So those of you who romanced Aerie in BG2, thought you were getting hot and heavy with this:

When you were really getting hot and heavy with this:

 

[Lagole Gon]

So when I'm getting hot and heavy with this:

I'm actually getting hot and heavy with this?

Works for me

 

[Roguey]

When you were really getting hot and heavy with this:

Back in the early 00s Gaider actually would roleplay as Viconia on the Bioware forums.

 

[Jick Magger]

That's pretty fucked, bro.

 

[Kz3r0]

When you were really getting hot and heavy with this:

Back in the early 00s Gaider actually would roleplay as Viconia on the Bioware forums.

What kind of degenerate would do that?

 

[CappenVarra]

Reminds me of a portrait from Bee's Wizardry LP

 

[Hobbit Lord of Mordor_]

Next step: Allow players to romance their furniture.

Allow players to romance themselves