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Junmarko

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The codex had a narrative that Kingmaker outsold Deadfire literally a week after release, met with dozens of brofists
Microsoft: "You must get a 1k page discussion on Codex for your studio bonus...you must also not be rivalled by any other I.P"
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I'm glad to see a game that was actually complete on release did better than a game that you literally could not finish without a hex editor. The cucks that defend shitty business practices like the Kingmaker dev's are disgusting. The game should have sold 0 copies.
 

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Lol Safav Hamon. Just ignore Obsidian's heavy name recognition, having been around for 15 years.
How much of that name recognition came from one of the guys who worked on Kingmaker?
Anecdotal evidence here, but I've spoken to many people about P:KM and most didn't even know that Avellone had worked on it, or only had that knowledge pass by them in the most vague terms. These were people that spend most of their free time playing and modding RPGs.
 

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This shouldn't be surprising given that Kingmaker's concurrent players are marginally better than Deadfire's. If you compare it month to month, then Kingmaker very likely has the edge, but Deadfire had a months-long headstart and Kingmaker didn't sell *that* much better.

This isn't much of a victory given all the titles that outsold Deadfire. D:OS 2, which was released last year, made significantly more money this year than Deadfire (though sure, it had four more months). So did Kingdom Come: Deliverance. But getting outsold by a relatively old thing like Fallout 4? Embarrassing.
 

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Not to mention that Kingmaker still managed those sales in-spite of having a mixed review rating nearly the entire time. Not that they don't deserve the mixed-review rating, they do. Bugs are not to be tolerated, and business majors must be penalized for pushing such things onto their customers.
 

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This shouldn't be surprising given that Kingmaker's concurrent players are marginally better than Deadfire's. If you compare it month to month, then Kingmaker very likely has the edge, but Deadfire had a months-long headstart and Kingmaker didn't sell *that* much better.

This isn't much of a victory given all the titles that outsold Deadfire. D:OS 2, which was released last year, made significantly more money this year than Deadfire (though sure, it had four more months). So did Kingdom Come: Deliverance. But getting outsold by a relatively old thing like Fallout 4? Embarrassing.
Fallout 4 is one of the biggest games from one of the most popular games companies in the world, and received a fresh spike of interest this year due to the summer announcement that it would be getting a follow-up.
 

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This was a good year for Obsidian.

Deadfire released to universal critical acclaim, was the best selling CRPG all year, received GOTY awards from the two most prestigious PC gaming magazines, and The Outer Worlds trailer has over 7 million views on youtube.

You are a moron who cares about "reviews" and "gaming magazines" and all the other stupid shit that clings like plastic film packaging to the actual product. You're the dumbass that reads cereal packaging and brags to the other retards in the kindergarten. You're swindled by pointless cheapass Christmas ribbon around your Starbucks cup. You care that a shitty song was endorsed by some reality TV celebrity in their twitter account, because you can't tell Zappa from One Direction on your own. You'd fap off to Ted Cruz if a porn site gave him an end of year men's acting award.
 

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Fallout 4 is one of the biggest games from one of the most popular games companies in the world, and received a fresh spike of interest this year due to the summer announcement that it would be getting a follow-up.
D:OS 2, KC:D, and Witcher 3 brought in more revenue. :M
 

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Not to mention that Kingmaker still managed those sales in-spite of having a mixed review rating nearly the entire time.
Core demographic really tells all. These games are aimed at an older player-base who grew up with the IE - most fans willing to playthrough despite faults. Negative feedback is largely constructive and most users will flip their rating if devs fix the core issues.
 

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I'm not sure whether Obisidian should feel flatterd or insluted by the fact that you guys are comparing Deadfire's sale numbers to AAA titles like Witcher 3 and Fallout 4. What's next? GTA 5 outsold Deadfire even it's more than 5 years old?
 

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Core demographic really tells all. These games are aimed at an older player-base who grew up with the IE - most fans willing to playthrough despite faults. Negative feedback is largely constructive and most users will flip their rating if devs fix the core issues.

Yeah, you nailed it. I immediately gave it a negative review after 30 minutes of gameplay. 5 patches in, I reversed it to a positive review. I'm still going to wait at least another 6-9 months before I bother finishing chapter 1. I hate playing unfinished games.
 

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I'm not sure whether Obisidian should feel flatterd or insluted by the fact that you guys are comparing Deadfire's sale numbers to AAA titles like Witcher 3 and Fallout 4.

From my perspective Kingmaker IS an AAA title that was released as a final product, when it should have remained Early Access for another 6 months. If not for the poor QA, the game has very high production quality, on par with any other AAA game.
 

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