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Disco Elysium Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

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Does seem rather off-putting that a game betting on its punk, upstart sensibilities feels the need to censor words. I see no reason to not include this as an option, or at the least provide an optional patch for players to download.
That bothers me quite a bit too. First time Disco's lost hype points with me. I see riding the cock carousel, being culturally enriched, slavs being potato loving goblins, and heroic/servile/vile pederast races, but drawing the line at the word faggot sounds like the action of someone who doesn't fuck my mother. Especially since there's a screenshot of calling someone a fucking rotten dyke whore or something along those lines, unless that's an old screenshot and it's since been adjusted by the ministry of corrections.

Jesus fuck guys, what's all this screeching about some asterixes. The words are still there, you know full well what the uncensored versions would be, the scenes are not rewritten or otherwise changed. If you're that desperate to hear them said out loud, shout them out to yourself when you play or smth, use that glorious imagination of a seasoned RPG player you are/pretend to be and treat it as just another unvoiced line.
I like my RPGs with tasteful rape and non-stop faggotry in them. Disco censoring one of those lowers it in my estimation. I thought this wasn't supposed to be a goddamn Obsidian game.

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normie

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Man I was going to write out why I think this particular example of self-censorship is pointless
no, you weren't

saying you were is just a little gay intro to the moan that actually follows

Not quite as gay as I made your dad sound last night :^)
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ps non-racialists are incapable of code switching and passing as actual "rightoids" and are quickly found out, but the opposite is not true - racialists grow out of race denial, know its rules and taboos, because it's the default of polite society until they learn otherwise, and they continue to have to pass as adults who don't hold non-kosher thoughts (think homo spies, tinkering, tailoring and soldiering)

the most leftoids can pull off are caricatures of boomer conservatards, in which case they pass if the person they are talking to is sufficiently mentally diminished, assumes kinship and has too much good will for their own good, but definitely not an actual modern huwhite nationalist/third positionist type, whose taboos leftoids can't navigate ie they do joo hate to an excess or show many of the signs of not being aware of the nuances of where their revolutionary impulses actually stem from

if it's "to do justice", zaum's failure is inherent already in that they put the "ideology" in the mouth of a groid (leftoids draw equivalencies where rightoids of those extremes don't); European race realist types will automatically perceive it as either a typical attempt to mock or it will be shrugged off as a typical failed but fair attempt to get into their mindspace (and probably are trying to make a mockery of it anyway)
 
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Lithium Flower why do you turn this shit in to left/right political shit?
You are right, this discussion was entirely apolitical before I contributed to it.

Seeing as have you previously used Planescape as an example of a D&D setting written "before hipsters decided to put them fucken politics into shit" (okay, I am paraphrasing slightly as no sentence I can possibly write can translate even an iota of your inanity), let me ask you - and I am genuinely curious - what do you think "politics" means? Do you think it solely describes a bunch of people talking about policy in parliament?

So do you want to have sex with me?

I am not *actually* gay, sorry. Although I know you are not either and what happened here is you drinking so hard you forgot what my gender was again, which is fine. You are only a few more benders away from not being able to recall anything at all, which will be a brighter future for all of us who no longer have to read your posts ok
 

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Fuck you Kasparov, I don't buy censored games. Sick to the back teeth of moralising smooth brains deciding what's inoffensive enough for me to consume.
Even Hemingway had censored words, man, don't be hysterical. If something says 'S---' or 'F-----' then fill in the blanks

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Jenkem

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Make the Codex Great Again! Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. I helped put crap in Monomyth
I just read on the tolerant forum that they do in fact have a swearing filter in the game and the streamers were using it. Dunno if true

Here's the settings screen in its entirety, as per the streams:

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I wonder if someone saw the asterisks part, took it to mean that all f-words can be similarly censored and is now gleefully spreading the news.

Which means all the people who don't want any fucks in their games are gonna be in for a surprise once they load this up.

No swearing filter, so the asterisks are part of the writing. fantadomat
 

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I think that if you are exploring a controversial position in earnest you shouldn't pull punches - imagine a serious drama about the horrors of American slavery with all the racist plantation owners literally calling Africans "n-words." It would come off as surreal and crass to me.

I actually agree with this. I think for me the difference here is that it's not the characters censoring themselves. They're not saying "f-word", they're still saying the actual word, it just gets scrambled in transmission, which in a weird way also makes it stand out more too. And yeah, it is interesting to contrast it with versions of Russian equivalent being left in untouched, though I had an impression it's the shorter version of it that was more widespread as a direct targeted insult rather than "-rast" forms, which I've only heard/seen used in Codex diatribes or from some middle-aged faux-intellectual Eastern Europeans pontificating about politics.

You are only a few more benders away from not being able to recall anything at all
He's just going full method to prepare for the game. Gotta respect dedication.

I like my RPGs with tasteful rape and non-stop faggotry in them.
This is neither Rance nor Deadfire, respectively.
 

BlackGoat

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This is childish. Every work of art makes 'concessions' at the expense of 'reality'. Paths of Glory isn't less good because it "censors" the spilled guts or exploded heads of the dead. Last House On The Left isn't a Greater work of art than The Virgin Spring because it is more vulgar
 

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Kasparov or the reviewerati, does Dancing Ellipticals support 16:10 resolutions without letter boxing them?
 

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Fuck you Kasparov, I don't buy censored games. Sick to the back teeth of moralising smooth brains deciding what's inoffensive enough for me to consume.
Even Hemingway had censored words, man, don't be hysterical. If something says 'S----' or 'F-----' then fill in the blanks

QMACpdd.jpg


It's not the case in the scenes featuring cuno and cunoesse, though. The little gremlins are depicted as some sort of primordial forces of chaos, completely unrestrained, unhinged, and reveling in their transgressions. They are situated on the very verge of the society where all conventions break down (Cuno is a twelve year old drug addict with abusive parents that lives on the street and thinks that rolling with local gangbangers is the highest honor; when you first meet him, he's high out of his mind, throwing rocks at his "fuck-gimp," a hanged mercenary that has been in the noose for the last week). Sudden static in the VO and asterisks in the text feel completely at odds with the realistic, brutal, and honest depiction of the lost youth. The sheer number of times the bleeped out word is featured is ludicrous, so it makes me think that this thing was a last minute initiative by their PR agency/producers/managers, an attempt to avoid some bad press by the western polite bourgeois outlets before the approaching release.

Personally, I'm not too bothered by it (even though it damages the scenes with cuno almost to the point of crippling them, simply due to how distracting and immersion-breaking that static is), but I can see how people can be upset by this. Although what puzzles me is how strangely inconsistent it is: there's plenty of poignant, effective, and realistic content that can be considered offensive by The Politely Repressed Audience, yet I've seen only one word so mercilessly butchered. Maybe it's some Advanced Selective Cultural Responsibility Theory I'm not aware of, who knows.
 
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Lithium Flower why do you turn this shit in to left/right political shit?
You are right, this discussion was entirely apolitical before I contributed to it.

Seeing as have you previously used Planescape as an example of a D&D setting written "before hipsters decided to put them fucken politics into shit" (okay, I am paraphrasing slightly as no sentence I can possibly write can translate even an iota of your inanity), let me ask you - and I am genuinely curious - what do you think "politics" means? Do you think it solely describes a bunch of people talking about policy in parliament?

So do you want to have sex with me?

I am not *actually* gay, sorry. Although I know you are not either and what happened here is you drinking so hard you forgot what my gender was again, which is fine. You are only a few more benders away from not being able to recall anything at all, which will be a brighter future for all of us who no longer have to read your posts ok
Ahhh political is when you bring out the political leanings on X goy that is talking about Y. In this case that is. Also why are you playing this shitty games with me cunt? You know what i meant and why i called you out. I as putting out an argument about the censorship and didn't put anything of my fucking political views in it. Then you came in and begun bitching about muh right wingers etc etc. I was coming out as a RPG fanboy that is pissed over the immersion breaking *** garbage. If they didn't wanted to write about faggots and shit,that is cool. But just putting *** in it is retarded no matter the political allegiance. When we are talking about politics fine,but when we are talk about something apolitical in games,it is not cool to bring it in mate. I never said anything about their politics,i was just unhappy with their censorship. In the end it is a political view,in a way,but it is not talking about a politics. I am tired of everything becoming politics,don't know about you.


On the second quote....lol you are a fabulous optimist. Assuming that i will stop posting i lost my memories....lol nice one.

On the sex thing,nah i kind off think that you are a cunt. No nude foot pic,no proof of you being a guy! Also the line was a joke from the first 15 minutes of the game lol. You didn't recognized it,which is strange since i remembered the first line.

Sooo do you want to have fuck with me?
 

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It's not the case in the scenes featuring cuno and cunoesse, though. The little gremlins are depicted as some sort of primordial forces of chaos, completely unrestrained, unhinged, and reveling in their transgressions. They are situated on the very verge of the society where all conventions break down (Cuno is a twelve year old drug addict with abusive parents that lives on the street and thinks that rolling with local gangbangers is the highest honor; when you first meet him, he's high out of his mind, throwing rocks at his "fuck-gimp," a hanged mercenary that has been in the noose for the last week). Sudden static in the VO and asterisks in the text feel completely at odds with the realistic, brutal, and honest depiction of the lost youth. The sheer number of times the bleeped out word is featured is ludicrous, so it makes me think that this thing was a last minute initiative by their PR agency/producers/managers, an attempt to avoid some bad press by the western polite bourgeois outlets before the approaching release.

Personally, I'm not too bothered by it (even though it damages the scenes with cuno almost to the point of crippling them, simply due to how distracting and immersion-breaking that static is), but I can see how people can be upset by this. Although what puzzles me is how strangely inconsistent it is: there's plenty of poignant, effective, and realistic content that can be considered offensive by The Politely Repressed Audience, yet I've seen only one word so mercilessly butchered. Maybe it's some Advanced Selective Cultural Responsibility Theory I'm not aware of, who knows.
It's not ideal. For instance, it's incongruous that in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol 2 swear words are censored but Mr Hyde rapeing the Invisible Man to death is no problem. But like... I get it. And if Alan Moore was able to include a scene where a GIANT FUCKING GORILLA literally rapes a man until he dies at the expense of a few spelled out swear words, then whatever. I'm over it. I can imagine the words.
 

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It's not the case in the scenes featuring cuno and cunoesse, though. The little gremlins are depicted as some sort of primordial forces of chaos, completely unrestrained, unhinged, and reveling in their transgressions. They are situated on the very verge of the society where all conventions break down (Cuno is a twelve year old drug addict with abusive parents that lives on the street and thinks that rolling with local gangbangers is the highest honor; when you first meet him, he's high out of his mind, throwing rocks at his "fuck-gimp," a hanged mercenary that has been in the noose for the last week). Sudden static in the VO and asterisks in the text feel completely at odds with the realistic, brutal, and honest depiction of the lost youth. The sheer number of times the bleeped out word is featured is ludicrous, so it makes me think that this thing was a last minute initiative by their PR agency/producers/managers, an attempt to avoid some bad press by the western polite bourgeois outlets before the approaching release.

Personally, I'm not too bothered by it (even though it damages the scenes with cuno almost to the point of crippling them, simply due to how distracting and immersion-breaking that static is), but I can see how people can be upset by this. Although what puzzles me is how strangely inconsistent it is: there's plenty of poignant, effective, and realistic content that can be considered offensive by The Politely Repressed Audience, yet I've seen only one word so mercilessly butchered. Maybe it's some Advanced Selective Cultural Responsibility Theory I'm not aware of, who knows.
It's not ideal. For instance, it's incongruous that in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol 2 swear words are censored but Mr Hyde rapeing the Invisible Man to death is no problem. But like... I get it. And if Alan Moore was able to include a scene where a GIANT FUCKING GORILLA literally rapes a man until he dies at the expense of a few spelled out swear words, then whatever. I'm over it. I can imagine the words.

RHETORIC [Easy: Success] - We should bag this weird Offense-Economy and put it in our Thought Cabinet.
 

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Why shit on the work of 'communists' when in the same breath hundreds of pages have been devoted to how corporate culture in the form of Biobeth has thoroughly defiled and degraded the production of RPGs?
 

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What pisses me off about this game is the way they lie about its price.

They're telling everyone it costs $40, but try buying a good VPN for that cheap. This is going to cost me at least $50.
 

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[You do know that is matter of principle??? I won't give money to people that support censorship,and such obvious one at that. IT doesn't matter if it is one word or if the whole text is ****! You sound like an abused wife,it is ok,i get used as a punching bag only on sundays.
Self-censorship out of consideration is worlds away from outside-imposed censorship with the intent to silence certain thoughts, ideas etc.
I can't hear you from all the c*m in your m***h,can you please remove kasparov's c**k out if it?
The mind of a mentally retarded faggot wrote this, every time I saw f****t I said it aloud to myself, your int is at 1 homo
 

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