Disco Elysium Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

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[Neanderthal]

Yeah gonna miss NTWtF I have to admit, you can tart up Disco Elysium to mean that you're dancing with celestial forces and constants during the game I suppose, but there was something classic about not backing down from the cruel emissaries of justice that drove even Chronos mad for his patricide. It spoke of vain, principled struggle that I find very captivating, a lot of Noir heroes could be summed up in this way. Ah well.

 

[Urthor]

Have they actually said the reason for changing the name? Surely it wasn't copyright (copywrite? I always get these confused)

Game still looks like one of the biggest pieces of upcoming lots of writing C&C incline and I can't wait to play it in 2019

 

[Stokowski]

Well, there is a Bill Bruford jazz piece called "No Truce with the Furies", so ... maybe copyright infringement was a consideration?

But I always thought it was a phrase from something really old (translation of Greek or Roman poet or something) and I've no clue how copyright is applied in such cases.

 

[HoboForEternity]

2019

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[Latro]

disco elysium sounds like that gay dad dating simulator

 

[santino27]

 

[Ninjerk]

That movie was such shit.

 

[Forest Dweller]

That's what happens when Matt Damon tries to play a beaner.

 

[Zombra]

Have they actually said the reason for changing the name?

No, but it was frequently said that Furies was a working title only. The change isn't really a surprise.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Have they actually said the reason for changing the name?

No, but it was frequently said that Furies was a working title only. The change isn't really a surprise.

Does that mean that they no longer plan to feature anthropomorphic animals in the game?

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Well, there is a Bill Bruford jazz piece called "No Truce with the Furies", so ... maybe copyright infringement was a consideration?

But I always thought it was a phrase from something really old (translation of Greek or Roman poet or something) and I've no clue how copyright is applied in such cases.

It sounds like it should be a classical allusion and maybe it is. As far as I can tell, R.S. Thomas used it as the title of his last poetry collection back in the ‘90, so there may have been trademark issues:

The furies are at home in the mirror; it is their address. Even the clearest water, if deep enough can drown. Never think to surprise them. Your face approaching ever so friendly is the white flag they ignore. There is no truce with the furies. A mirror’s temperature is always zero. It is ice in the veins. Its camera is an x-ray. It is a chalice held out to you in silent communion, where gaspingly you partake of a shifting identity never your own.

From “Reflections” in No Truce With The Furies.

But it sounds so much like a classical allusion and not knowing the original source is driving me crazy. No Truce could maybe be taken from an unusual translation. For example, I found a line in The Eumenides that could conceivably translated, loosely, to get “no truce.”

From the very old Morshead translation:

Chorus (the furies):
Stern and fixed the law is; we have hands t' achieve it,
Cunning to devise.
Queens are we and mindful of our solemn vengeance.
Not by tear or prayer
Shall a man avert it.

That could get you to no truce if you’re trying to keep the meter and care more about the spirit of the text than its literal meaning. But if someone translated it that way, I can’t find it. Maybe it’s from something else.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

I took me several pages to realise that the new title wasn't 'Disco Asylum'. Now that would have been a good name.

 

[Infinitron]

lol at the saltiness over this. It's just a name.

I guess I agree though that Disco Elysium, while equally weird, isn't as obviously evocative as "No Truce With The Furies". Kasparov, does the name have any meaning?

 

[luinthoron]

I shall just assume the name change was made because Marat Sar forgot that The Countermeasures had to come first.

 

[Kasparov]

lol at the saltiness over this. It's just a name.

I guess I agree though that Disco Elysium, while equally weird, isn't as obviously evocative as "No Truce With The Furies". Kasparov, does the name have any meaning?

It is not just “a purposefully odd word salad” as some have put it.

Like No Truce - Disco carries its own meaning. In context.

As for the list of titles luinthoron is linking to - Robert/Marat Sar has publicly mentioned a few times at least that there are abundant stories yet to tell in Elysium; many different themes to explore and genres to work in.

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

Ok, Kasparov, some honest feedback here. It is obvious that you tried to reflect the 70s aesthetics of the game in the title. It didn't work. I didn’t liked the narrator voice (cringeworthy, not professional) or the trailer. The trailer tried to show some action, but it managed to be both light on the action part and superficial on the reactivity, story and cabinet mechanics. This shows that you are not really getting across the strengths of your game. If I didn't read the updates before I wouldn't have got a clue if this game is really promising.

Even "No Truce - A Detective RPG" would be miles better, in my opinion.

This.

 

[Infinitron]

The narrator is cool, it's supposed to be a grungy Tom Waits-type thing.

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

Can't make no more tired furry jokes about this game

You get to make disco jokes though.

The narrator is cool, it's supposed to be a grungy Tom Waits-type thing.

Ask yourself if the average player will know about this. Sometimes you need to be less artsy and use some basic common sense in order to survive. You need to be pragmatic to sell your art.

 

[Kasparov]

You need to be pragmatic to sell your art.

The name is too marketable, but the voice is not marketable enough. Pick your politics.

Ladies, this board reads like the comments section on a blog detailing the outfits and hairdos at some high profile red carpet event.

Worry whether the carpet matches the drapes instead.

 

[you know what time it is]

The voice would work if the lines weren't your typical salesman pitch. An actual character or at least your usual trailer's narrator is a much better fit.

Like the new name though.

 

[Mustawd]

The narrator is cool, it's supposed to be a grungy Tom Waits-type thing.

Ask yourself if the average player will know about this. Sometimes you need to be less artsy and use some basic common sense in order to survive. You need to be pragmatic to sell your art.

This, but also the narrator IS cringe worthy. I don't see how it's cool at all. I mean this game isn't for me, so take that with a grain of salt, but I'm trying to be objective here to at least give some feedback and be helpful. Narrator's voice is gross.

 

[conan_edw]

Didn't know about this until recently. Other than the obvious details is there any mention of how investigation works? (Collecting evidence, making connection between events, deduction.....etc)
I mean you wouldn't want it to be like a telltale when you have to choose the right answer or whatever

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

This, but also the narrator IS cringe worthy. I don't see how it's cool at all. I mean this game isn't for me, so take that with a grain of salt, but I'm trying to be objective here to at least give some feedback and be helpful. Narrator's voice is gross.

It seems that they can't sell their concept to save their lives. The trailer is obscure and not engaging. They should just remove the whole narration thing and make a more informative and attractive trailer where the actual stuff is emphasised, e.g., the innovative dialogue mechanics, reactivity, quests, refreshing setting.

Didn't know about this until recently. Other than the obvious details is there any mention of how investigation works? (Collecting evidence, making connection between events, deduction.....etc

Of course not. The trailer is opaque.

 

[Lahey]

"No Truce - A Hardboiled RPG"

Fixed.

Ladies, this board reads like the comments section on a blog detailing the outfits and hairdos at some high profile red carpet event.

Worry whether the carpet matches the drapes instead.

I don't worry whether the carpet matches the drapes, but rather the odds of a trap - gib moar gameplay footage, pinko. These cinematic trailers are pretty but useless.