Divinity Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition

[Black]

Anyone wanna share how they use these source skills other than a super nuke opener?
I honestly cannot see other 'creative' way to use the magic ones since they're mostly nukes and moar nukes.
Compared to Fane's amazing Time Warp and Polymorph reset cooldown the elemental source skills are so lacking in creativity. There's this Closed Circuit that does upwards 600-700 close radius AoE and grants immunity to Air to caster. And there's this 1000 earth damage nuke... or the 25 meteors shower fire damage. Don't even get me started on Source Summons. Eugh. I'll stick with my 1 slot incarnate thanks.

Most of the time Lohse's the Geomancer Summoner starts with Adrenaline (+2 AP now, -2 AP next turn) blows all her Source power with the Earth nuke for 3 AP/ 3 SP, summon Earth Incarnate, Infusion is almost the optimal opener. You can get crazier if you picked the Elemental surface discount and have her start fight while standing on a puddle of oil for -1 AP on all Earth damage spells. Earthquake, Spike, etc for 1-2 AP is crazy good. However, there's one shit that always annoys me in game: Earth is considered magical damage.

Larian fucked up when they tied Earth damage to magic while adding knockdown/cripple (resisted by physical armor) to it. So why not make Earth damage physical? They're literally DIRT ffs.

Why do you still play this

 

[Sizzle]

- "The feces you shat out infront of my house smell bad!"

- "I disagree"

"I'll have you know that Scat Lovers Monthly gave it 5/5 poops!" :D

 

[RK47]

Anyone wanna share how they use these source skills other than a super nuke opener?
I honestly cannot see other 'creative' way to use the magic ones since they're mostly nukes and moar nukes.
Compared to Fane's amazing Time Warp and Polymorph reset cooldown the elemental source skills are so lacking in creativity. There's this Closed Circuit that does upwards 600-700 close radius AoE and grants immunity to Air to caster. And there's this 1000 earth damage nuke... or the 25 meteors shower fire damage. Don't even get me started on Source Summons. Eugh. I'll stick with my 1 slot incarnate thanks.

Most of the time Lohse's the Geomancer Summoner starts with Adrenaline (+2 AP now, -2 AP next turn) blows all her Source power with the Earth nuke for 3 AP/ 3 SP, summon Earth Incarnate, Infusion is almost the optimal opener. You can get crazier if you picked the Elemental surface discount and have her start fight while standing on a puddle of oil for -1 AP on all Earth damage spells. Earthquake, Spike, etc for 1-2 AP is crazy good. However, there's one shit that always annoys me in game: Earth is considered magical damage.

Larian fucked up when they tied Earth damage to magic while adding knockdown/cripple (resisted by physical armor) to it. So why not make Earth damage physical? They're literally DIRT ffs.

Why do you still play this

Just a little bit more... Already on Nameless Isle, hit lvl 17. They seem to cap the stats hard now. I'm staring at 30% critical rating with WITS 40.
Oh well, not like it changes much with these high tier skills unlocked:

Apotheosis 2AP / 3SP - turns all source power cost to zero

Time Warp 0AP / 1SP - gives one extra turn after this turn ends

Overpower 2AP / 3SP Deals 150% physical damage and knock down. If you have higher physical armor, automatically depletes enemy's physical armor.

Skin Graft 1AP / 1SP - Reset all cooldowns. Removes Burning, Necrofire, Poisoned and Bleeding.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

I'm about to fight Kniles and golems, did a test run at lvl 4 (Fane + Red Prince), all golems broke their cages. Playing on Tactician mode.

Silent monk on the right can still be killed without drawing aggro, but I might need to go back and purchase some extra cc skills for the golems.

If I teleport monk on the left towards the stairs (going to the dogs room), and immediately hide, it only aggros that monk and Kniles, who approach the area, while the rest just pass turns.

 

[RK47]

Yeah, they seem to have fixed that cage bashing glitch.
Anyway if you want to abuse teleport, just remember that your skill range can get extended if you're standing on high ground. This enables you to do some ridiculously long range teleport.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Larian fucked up when they tied Earth damage to magic while adding knockdown/cripple (resisted by physical armor) to it. So why not make Earth damage physical? They're literally DIRT ffs.

As other folks have already said, Larian is totally unaware of how retarded their combat system is. Thanks to game critics handing out 9s and 10s like candy, Larian has been lead to believe that they've made the best RPG of the decade.

Not sure how to take this judgement the system is far form perfect but we have people that spent money and praise grimoire in the codex so..

 

[Black]

we have people that spent money and praise grimoire in the codex so..

If you have something to say about Grimmaw then say it.

 

[PEACH]

Larian fucked up when they tied Earth damage to magic while adding knockdown/cripple (resisted by physical armor) to it. So why not make Earth damage physical? They're literally DIRT ffs.

As other folks have already said, Larian is totally unaware of how retarded their combat system is. Thanks to game critics handing out 9s and 10s like candy, Larian has been lead to believe that they've made the best RPG of the decade.

Not sure how to take this judgement the system is far form perfect but we have people that spent money and praise grimoire in the codex so..

Having completed both games I can tell you I'd struggle to find even one thing DOS2 does better than Grimoire with any amount of regularity.

Writing, itemization, encounter design, character building/progression, puzzles, dungeon design, player freedom... It's almost like you'd have a completely different opinion if you had any idea what you're talking about

 

[Volrath]

Larian fucked up when they tied Earth damage to magic while adding knockdown/cripple (resisted by physical armor) to it. So why not make Earth damage physical? They're literally DIRT ffs.

As other folks have already said, Larian is totally unaware of how retarded their combat system is. Thanks to game critics handing out 9s and 10s like candy, Larian has been lead to believe that they've made the best RPG of the decade.

Not sure how to take this judgement the system is far form perfect but we have people that spent money and praise grimoire ELEX in the codex so..

ftfy

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I know what you mean, there are buggers who praise D:OS 2, can you imagine?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

The game has flaws but is nowhere terrible as some people paint it and if you consider the crap rpgs released over this years larian at least try to deliver games for people that loves the old school and attempts also to be innovative in avoiding dumb stuff like dialogue wheel or perk systems..

Then you have grimoire a game where you click and wander for hour in the same 10 sets of geometric landscapes of dungeon where ennemy pops in assuming totally random animations that makes no sense also so many stats and skills that actually play all the fucking same that game is just... Numbers.

 

[PEACH]

The game has flaws but is nowhere terrible as some people paint it and if you consider the crap rpgs released over this years larian at least try to deliver games for people that loves the old school and attempts also to be innovative in avoiding dumb stuff like dialogue wheel or perk systems..

Then you have grimoire a game where you click and wander for hour in the same 10 sets of geometric landscapes of dungeon where ennemy pops in assuming totally random animations that makes no sense also so many stats and skills that actually play all the fucking same that game is just... Numbers.

Gotcha.

Romances, Diablo loot, egregious scaling & character progression based on cumulative +5% DMG bonuses = "for people that loves the old school"
Faithful tribute to DW Bradley era Wizardry = homogeneous gameplay, nonsense & "just numbers"

How brave of larian to innovate so much by daring to stray from dialogue wheels, I'm surprised the maverick who made that radical choice hasn't been publicly lynched yet. They even managed to convince you the game didn't have perks somehow. Incredible accomplishments to say the least. I take it all back. Hopefully Grimoire 2 will show the same love of the old school as DOS2, though it certainly won't be easy.

 

[Squid]

They even managed to convince you the game didn't have perks somehow.

Uh excuse you, there aren't perks in Divinity perhaps you mean TALENTS? They're not really the same as perks or they'd be called that now wouldn't they?!
Talents = innovation away from perk systems
Perks = dumb stuff

 

[you know what time it is]

So is tactician still a slog in definitive? What are some big changes to look out for?

 

[Lacrymas]

There are no big changes that really affect the quality of the combat. There are mods that fix some issues, like scaling. I also found a mod that fixes initiative, but don't know if it's compatible with the DE.

 

[Krzysiek]

Maybe here more people would like to answer my questions:

I'm planning my first playthrough in D:OS 2 and I would like to know which mods do you consider are the best / the most essential?
Right now on my radar are:
1. Initiative Fix - Round Robin Begone
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1506065654
Is it stable enough for full playthrough?
2. Reduced Number Bloat
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1499553074
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1499625916
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1499568270
Which version do you consider is the best?
3. Armor-Based Saving Throws
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1505329732

In yours experience is AI capable of playing with this mods?

 

[Jezal_k23]

My main problem with the Definitive Edition is that it really doesn't change anything really important, barely improves combat or anything. The Enhanced Edition of DOS1 at least tried to shake some things up like the encounters in Tactician Mode. This one feels more like they're just doing a victory lap and it feels so meaningless.

 

[Roguey]

Disregard Codex, acquire currency

 

[AwesomeButton]

In other words, if you are good enough to fool the codex that your game is hardcore and they should back it, you are definetly good enough to fool the casuals that they are playing an hardcore involved "RPG game".

 

[Sacred82]

Disregard Codex, acquire currency

you really think those journos would have panned the game for Kodex relevant input?

 

[Strange Fellow]

Disregard Codex, acquire currency

you really think those journos would have panned the game for Kodex relevant input?

You really think Roguey isn't being facetious as usual?

 

[Darth Roxor]

I look at a score like "9.75/10" and my reaction is:

I can't wait for 9.799995/10

 

[Sacred82]

u just jelly they have their shit down



arcane calculations that add or subtract 0.25 points from a game's score are only accesible to high class aspies like Watchers

 

[unfairlight]

-0.25 points
Disrespectful towards women.

 

[unfairlight]

I got no fucking idea how this game became as successful as it is though. Is it because it had anything resembling a marketing budget unlike every other CRPG past 5 years and had the money for pretty graphics?