Divinity: Original Sin Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Athelas]

Voice acting? Really? Can we have a great game with a LOT of text without voice acting?

 

[Infinitron]

@Helena:

We had lots of problems with updating the GOG versions when Dragon Commander released which is why we didn't go for it this time on the retail discs. In the run up to release every minute counts for us (literally) and we want to avoid digital distribution logistics misery as much as possible. We really don't have any other interest in Steam activation. If we had hidden motives (whatever they might be), then we wouldn't be putting DRM free versions on GOG & not deactivate copy protection on Steam.

We're not looking for a war with our backers & understand that for some of you DRM free means never having to go online. For those that absolutely want it (and who backed us on Kickstarter) - we're thinking of doing a second print run which will contain the game + the last updates available at the time of the print-run. It's but a thought at this point because we're unsure if that's what you really want, but if indeed that's what you & others are looking for, then we'll organise it. We'd of course still send out the Regular and Collector's Editions once they arrive in our office.

Manual patching is apparently terrible.

 

[Scroo]

I tried to post something long and witty but i don't really give a shit about it.

So people 21 days !

Sums my thoughts up, can't wait.

 

[garren]

Manual patching is apparently terrible.

The patching on gog is a bit of a weak point. There a some games that lack feature parity when compared to their steam versions. The newest version of I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream uses Scummvm, gog version still uses dosbox which is glitchier. I recently bought Postal 2 from the gog sale, and discovered that it is way behind the steam version in feature parity. Just a few examples. The games tend to be updated at some point, but it can take a while. I wonder if the new GoG Galaxy client makes any changes for easier patching process..

 

[80Maxwell08]

If they make a second run later without needing Steam I'll buy it. I don't see the point of locking physical versions to Steam since the only thing the disc does at that point is loads it faster (which still might be useless depending on updates).

 

[Zombra]

Wait ... everyone has access to a DRM-free version and people are bitching about DRM? Am I reading that right?

 

[Whiran]

Wait ... everyone has access to a DRM-free version and people are bitching about DRM? Am I reading that right?

I think you read that wrong.

It seems to me that some people are bitching about having to install steam, activate the product on steam, then patch the game on steam before being able to play even though the game is DRM free.

I don't see why they just don't make the patch available on a "cloud" somewhere for people who don't want to have anything to do with Steam. I can empathize with the person who paid $200 USD for a DRM free version on physical media only to discover that they'd have to install Steam to make it work.

I don't empathize with them if they are upset because there will be patches.

 

[Visperas]

You need Steam to patch, not to install the dvd version if I'm understanding this right. Anyway, it's a proven fact that Larian are bros so you have a right to whine if you want but attacking them for this after every explanation is stupid.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

You need Steam to patch, not to install the dvd version if I'm understanding this right. Anyway, it's a proven fact that Larian are bros so you have a right to whine if you want but attacking them for this after every explanation is stupid.

No. You will not be able to play from your "DRM-free" dvd without Steam activation.

 

[Visperas]

You need Steam to patch, not to install the dvd version if I'm understanding this right. Anyway, it's a proven fact that Larian are bros so you have a right to whine if you want but attacking them for this after every explanation is stupid.

No. You will not be able to play from your "DRM-free" dvd without Steam activation.

Well, that sucks if you're an antisteam radical. After all the shit I've put my computer trough, Steam is quite ok.

 

[Infinitron]

Wait ... everyone has access to a DRM-free version and people are bitching about DRM? Am I reading that right?

I think you read that wrong.

Not entirely because the CE box comes with a GOG key for the game.

 

[Sensuki]

I picked Larian Vault for my redemption. I wonder how updating will work for that. Hopefully they provide a standalone updater.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Wait ... everyone has access to a DRM-free version and people are bitching about DRM? Am I reading that right?

I think you read that wrong.

Not entirely because the CE box comes with a GOG key for the game.

Then why buy a physical copy at all if you are only doing it for a code?

 

[tuluse]

Then why buy a physical copy at all if you are only doing it for a code?

The accoutrements.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Well, from reading the comments it seems Larian are trying to defuse the issue and offer alternatives, to give them some credit... but one guy keeps quoting from their FAQs which doesn't help

#7
What is the difference between a digital purchase and having the game delivered at home in a box?
When you buy the game digitally, you can start playing immediately after downloading the installation files. If you order the game in a box, you do not need to download anything, but it can take a few days before the game arrives at your shipping address.

 

[Cadmus]

Just release the godadmn game and if the disc is full of shitty bugged mess

See, this is the problem. Since when did it become acceptable to knowingly sell a "shitty bugged mess" on disc with the possibility that somebody will play it? Is it now okay to sell a beta as a finished product in stores just to satisfy an irrelevant minority of DRM-phobes and box nostalgists?

If you want to be mad at something, be mad at Larian for not delaying their game. Not for doing their best to ensure that people who buy their game in a store actually get a fucking finished game.

I addressed the point you are making in the brackets. It's fucking retarded already, but at least don't go with the worse option of using the goddamn Steam. It's not ok to sell the beta as a finished product and I never bought any of this beta or early access shit games, I'm just waiting for the complete release.

I'm not sure if you're serious with the point about the "irrelevant minority of DRM-phobes and box nostalgists" but that was a point in their campaign so yeah, they should a) give them the finished and complete product without any DRM including Steam and failing that - b) provide a patch (they will already have on the release date) to be downloadable from their goddamn site instead of Steam. This bullshit excuse "WE WANT TO PROVIDE BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL TOO RETARDED TO CLICK A DOWNLOAD LINK" thus forcing the person who bought into their PR campaign and purchased the DRM-free copy to instead go through the trouble of setting up the fucking Steam thus making the point about it being too inconsistent to provide a patch on their website because people might be too stupid to download it, fucking moot. And it's not a strawman argument because assuming the people are too fucking dumb to get the patch is the only reason to have the download mandatory.

You see, despite my better judgement I like Larian and their games, and even though I think it's totally retarded to like a fucking corporation,that's based on making money, I was for a while enchanted with their professional PR campaign and the enthusiastic idiot in the videos. Then I remembered I saw such an enthusiastic businessman at work the last month and spent the time since then fixing his idiotic ideas.

So the bottom line is , they are kinda cool, but they are giving shitty excuses for fucking up and I'm drunk to shit.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

It's pretty unfortunate that Larian decided to take inspiration from World of Warcraft when it came to designing the male avatars. Females are nice, but I'd rather use Wasteland 2's anorexia simulator then whatever retarded Popeye looking thing I've got now.

 

[Zombra]

Wait ... everyone has access to a DRM-free version and people are bitching about DRM? Am I reading that right?

I think you read that wrong.

Not entirely because the CE box comes with a GOG key for the game.

So I did read it right. Everybody gets the game DRM-free. Not a single person has to go on Steam unless they choose to. They're mad because they don't get to install the version of their choice using the procedure of their choice. I mean, Jesus Christ.

Why buy a physical copy at all if you are only doing it for a code?

Edited for relevance. Physical boxes are a neato retro trophy nowadays, nothing more. I like beads and trinkets as much as the next guy, but all of the complainers have a freaking internet connection. Even with a slow service, they'll be able to d/l the whole thing before their physical box ships from freaking Belgium.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

It's simple. Offer physical version buyers the ability to request a Gog gift, or just gift them automatically.

DRM or no, Steam "encumbers" the game. Do the right thing Larian.

 

[tuluse]

It's simple. Offer physical version buyers the ability to request a Gog gift, or just gift them automatically.

DRM or no, Steam "encumbers" the game. Do the right thing Larian.

1) Physical buyers do have a gog option.
2) You only need steam to install the game. You can then move the game directory, uninstall steam, and it will work just fine.
3) By need, I mean not taking the gog route.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

Well, There will be a day that drm will mean the game costs money.

 

[quasimodo]

I agree Larian are bros and I'm not going to hold it against them, but when I pledged for a physical disc I really did expect to get a disc I could use without fucking steam or any internet connection.

 

[Turjan]

Honestly, I love Steam as a service and have no problems with getting the game that way, but Larian fucked this up. Why get a physical copy of a DRM-free game if you need to be online to start using it? I don't want to wade into the debate what is considered DRM and what is not - I'm fully aware of the fact that Steam has lots of DRM-free games on the service - but if I had put a huge chunk of money on a box with some goodies and game discs for a physical copy of a DRM-free game, I would not expect to have to download another program to run this game. It's about missing expectations here.

Not sure how this could not be seen before that decision was made. They are going for the old school crowd after all.

 

[Lhynn]

It's pretty unfortunate that Larian decided to take inspiration from World of Warcraft when it came to designing the male avatars. Females are nice, but I'd rather use Wasteland 2's anorexia simulator then whatever retarded Popeye looking thing I've got now.

Honestly, why the fuck are WoW aesthetics everywhere, they are absolutely shit and one of the reasons i disliked that piece of shit.

 

[jdinatale]

It's pretty unfortunate that Larian decided to take inspiration from World of Warcraft when it came to designing the male avatars. Females are nice, but I'd rather use Wasteland 2's anorexia simulator then whatever retarded Popeye looking thing I've got now.

World of Warcraft inspired visuals are cancer.