Doing a Legion run in FO:NV

[Carrion]

I'm sure, but like I say in a lot of these conversations at some point you have to shrug and write things off with "it's a videogame." That's kinda my point, if you're gonna get into nitpicks about population this and should there be woods that then you're kinda already looking for more realism than the videogame format allows.

A major difference between New Vegas and garbage like FO3 is that NV actually does put effort into explaining how these communities exist, how they get their food, how their economy works etc. There's some fine world-building here. Thus the criticism of certain lackluster elements is perfectly valid, but I'm willing to look past recycled assets and other cosmetic stuff considering how much Obsidian achieved in such a little time. The game at least makes a serious effort to show a society that is advancing and rebuilding, unlike certain other game(s) involving (post-)post-apocalyptic hobos living in war-torn shacks.

 

[Mexi]

Also, isn't the purpose of New Vegas supposed to be to preserve the status quo, at least that is House's intent? He doesn't rebuild anything, and really, he gave leadership to a bunch of tribals that fucking hate each other. Makes sense if that's the case that the city is a shithole. He didn't give control of the casinos to people that will actually make the city progress, but he made it so that New Vegas is 100% reliant on the NCR. If they stopped being reliant, it wouldn't be in line with that odd vision he has for New Vegas. At least, I'm thinking that was his ultimate goal. I've not played in fucking forever now.

 

[Mastermind]

I'm sure, but like I say in a lot of these conversations at some point you have to shrug and write things off with "it's a videogame." That's kinda my point, if you're gonna get into nitpicks about population this and should there be woods that then you're kinda already looking for more realism than the videogame format allows.

A major difference between New Vegas and garbage like FO3 is that NV actually does put effort into explaining how these communities exist, how they get their food, how their economy works etc. There's some fine world-building here. Thus the criticism of certain lackluster elements is perfectly valid, but I'm willing to look past recycled assets and other cosmetic stuff considering how much Obsidian achieved in such a little time. The game at least makes a serious effort to show a society that is advancing and rebuilding, unlike certain other game(s) involving (post-)post-apocalyptic hobos living in war-torn shacks.

Fallout 3 only has a few very small communities (except the enclave, which you get no real access to) and for all of them it's p easy to figure out how they survive. NV HAS TO elaborate because it has several de facto nations crammed in roughly the same sized map as fallout 3. a few huts in the middle of nowhere can survive just fine off a little farming, trade and the implied scavenging. NV is a full blown city (at least until you realize it's mostly an illusion and only has a handful of buildings, at which point the illusion breaks) whereas F3 is a collection of what can't even be called villages across an obliterated city overrun by bandits and mutants.

 

[DalekFlay]

A major difference between New Vegas and garbage like FO3 is that NV actually does put effort into explaining how these communities exist, how they get their food, how their economy works etc. There's some fine world-building here. Thus the criticism of certain lackluster elements is perfectly valid, but I'm willing to look past recycled assets and other cosmetic stuff considering how much Obsidian achieved in such a little time. The game at least makes a serious effort to show a society that is advancing and rebuilding, unlike certain other game(s) involving (post-)post-apocalyptic hobos living in war-torn shacks.

This isn't wrong, and I also love that about it. However I think there's a difference between selling the illusion well and keeping the illusion safe from all manner of random nitpicks.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Something I didn't remember and was somewhat surprised by in this replay was that House only restored and opened the strip 7 years before the game starts, as a response to NCR encroachment. Not pointing this out as a direct reply to the above, but for me at least it flavors a lot of these discussions because the setup you see in the game is still relatively new. House had a long and boring 200 years in his tank I guess.

Mr. House describes to the protagonist events following the nuclear apocalypse, which occurred one day before the Platinum Chip was due to arrive and which triggered "software glitches" that resulted in a "cascade of system crashes" and ultimately in Mr. House losing several decades due to troubles with restoring power, rebooting his operating system, and then being in a virtual coma. Although Mr. House also refers to having spent "decades" paying salvagers to search for the Platinum Chip, this does still leave about a century unaccounted for in between, so perhaps the timeline would have made more sense if his de facto coma had been longer lasting.

 

[Endemic]

Yeah, House didn't quite have everything ready in time before the war happened. He's somewhat inspired by the tycoon Howard Hughes, including the prickly attitude, so perhaps he also had trouble finding reliable people to work for him in that time.

 

[vota DC]

Also what about the Arena? After you fight Stella they say "I never thought that someone could beat a ranger in close combat". So It Is just no Stella but even centurions with melee weapons are supposed to lose against any unarmed ranger. That make the legion looks weak or the ranger being Cordell Walker clones or both.

Also about being ncrcentric even Goodspring despite getting the best ending with indepedent Is hostile if you chose House/Legion/Independent because Ringo doesn't care that you saved him: he shoots you on sight as long NCR Is hostile to you (because he Is from a caravan owned by NCR) and for some reason Sunny and her dog too.

 

[pidstuff]

I can't seem to remember why and can't find any answer for this little question of mine, so I'll ask here instead. Was it ever explained why Caesar trusted you 100% in the beginning to even let you go underground and destroy the facility unaccompanied?