Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

[Mr. Pink]

I'm so glad the betting site was down before I could bet on EG

 

[Orma]

Kwa's last hope is dead

 

[you know what time it is]

 

[communard]

People who hate on EE are fucking retarded 2k shitters. He's a top 10 core player and has been so for a long ass time. Also Pie is probably the best player in the world currently. Again. That boy has consistency issues though.

I hope this iteration of Team Secret sticks together until next TI at least. They seem to have a good team dynamic going.

 

[you know what time it is]

EE is bottom 10. His decision making is undeniably retarded. He threw so many games, I can't even count. Just getting carried. As much as I hate to admit, w33 is pretty good. Puppan, Pie and Misery are all veterans and have a pretty big pool of heroes couple all of that with good drafts and any 5k carry will do a better job than EE.

 

[Mr. Pink]

People who hate on EE are fucking retarded 2k shitters. He's a top 10 core player and has been so for a long ass time. Also Pie is probably the best player in the world currently. Again. That boy has consistency issues though.

I hope this iteration of Team Secret sticks together until next TI at least. They seem to have a good team dynamic going.

You don't win a major or TI playing safe. Dota punishes conservative play now, and players like burning, sylar, black are outperformed by risk taking carries with very wide hero pools. I love to hate on EE because he's so cringy, but for every blind jump into certain death he makes, there's two other risks that paid off.

EE is bottom 10. His decision making is undeniably retarded. He threw so many games, I can't even count. Just getting carried. As much as I hate to admit, w33 is pretty good. Puppan, Pie and Misery are all veterans and have a pretty big pool of heroes couple all of that with good drafts and any 5k carry will do a better job than EE.

2k shitter detected

 

[tripedal]

Zai will be coming back to Dota in 10 weeks. He's probably still the best player in the world (or at least top 3). Will EG kick someone (sumail seems like the only candidate) to make room for him? Will Secret?

 

[communard]

You don't win a major or TI playing safe. Dota punishes conservative play now, and players like burning, sylar, black are outperformed by risk taking carries with very wide hero pools. I love to hate on EE because he's so cringy, but for every blind jump into certain death he makes, there's two other risks that paid off.

EE really wants to win at Dota 2. If you can handle his autism I don't see why anybody wouldn't want him on their team.

Zai will be coming back to Dota in 10 weeks. He's probably still the best player in the world (or at least top 3). Will EG kick someone (sumail seems like the only candidate) to make room for him? Will Secret?

I was pretty sure before the tournament that Secret would end up kicking Misery for Zai (and maybe Wee too depending on who'd they be able to get). But they won really convincingly so now I have no idea. No way EG would kick Sumail for Zai.

 

[Ninjerk]

Did Zai ask permission to come back?

 

[communard]

Well being a really good player he would presumably want to be on one of the top English speaking teams. I doubt he wants to go to Liquid and I dunno who he'd replace on OG. Everyone else is kind of shit or Alliance.

 

[you know what time it is]

2k shitter detected

Risk taking =/= decision making, learn to read first before you try to insult someone. Besides taking risks all the time without considering the situation or timing is dumb as fuck and is a behavior usually seen in your beloved 2k trench.

He's like XBOCT in a lot of ways, just less successful. Even has the same guy drafting for him.

 

[Orma]

People who hate on EE are fucking retarded 2k shitters. He's a top 10 core player and has been so for a long ass time. Also Pie is probably the best player in the world currently. Again. That boy has consistency issues though.

I hope this iteration of Team Secret sticks together until next TI at least. They seem to have a good team dynamic going.

EE is ok but It's really puppey rather than others. Same goes for liquid, kuro single-handedly raped EG

 

[Mr. Pink]

This is what all the teams have woken up to this morning. These are the practice rooms. What remains is hopefully all our gear, we had laptops in this room and a ton of other personal stuff. No heads up about this was given to the teams

Damage report:
n0tail got his keyboard and mouse stolen
rotk lost his car keys
laptops stolen

perfect world offered to pay for damages.

 

[flyingjohn]

Personal stuff. We've had issues with Personal stuff at previous events. Some Valve people lobbied to bring them back for Shanghai, feeling that those stuffs deserved another chance. That was a mistake. Personal stuff is an ass, and we won't be working with them again.

Looking forward to the Manila major drama,wondering can they out beat this screw up.

 

[Orma]

positive mental attitude

 

[communard]

I reinstalled Dota 2(((((((

 

[dumdum]

Let it all out of you

 

[communard]

Gone 3-1 so far so I'm reasonably happy.

 

[abija]

People who hate on EE are fucking retarded 2k shitters.

Bullshit, he is unstable and that is terrible in a carry player.

You don't win a major or TI playing safe. Dota punishes conservative play now, and players like burning, sylar, black are outperformed by risk taking carries with very wide hero pools. I love to hate on EE because he's so cringy, but for every blind jump into certain death he makes, there's two other risks that paid off.

People don't hate EE for taking risks, they hate him for taking completely unnecessary risks (see their 3rd game vs EG).

Your argument is beyond retarded btw. Fear won last TI playing SAFE.
In fact, out of all the Valve tournaments XBOCT is the only other risk taking carry that won something. Zhou, Loda, Hao, Fear, Miracle are all stable carries.
To make it even worse, XBOCT had moments of brilliance, of pure fucking skill. The closest EE got to that was on ember when hero was op as fuck and enemy team had no counters.

There are 20+ players that would make a better carry than EE in current scene, starting with Kuroky.

 

[tripedal]

How about that new Secret lineup?

 

[communard]

If Artour can stop being a little baby they'll win everything ever. Maybe EE slurping and mumbling in Teamspeak is what he needs to perform his best. Dota ASMR and shit.

I really do hate these constant shuffles though.

 

[Mr. Pink]

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[Orma]

Can someone who follows that kind of thing post the results of the shuffles?

 

[flyingjohn]

Can someone who follows that kind of thing post the results of the shuffles?

Nothing is yet finalized but you can see the current status of the teams roosters here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/49c5yh/postshanghai_major_shuffle_thread/

 

[Great Deceiver]

Team Spirit looks strong as fuck. Illidan, Funn1k, Alwayswannafly and Goblak.

Predictable EG meltdown, Fear is a great player but I think this might be when he retires. Don't think he has it in him to build a new team.

Secret kinda sidegraded from Misery to Universe, grabbing rtz makes no sense - even though I think he's a better player than w33, I don't think the team synergy is there.

Nodiggity is an interesting new team, but since synderen is on it it will probably never win anything - I like the guy and think his commentating is great, but he's a mediocre player. Era is a very solid carry player and Khezzu is a solid offlaner who recently came from Hon. Qojqva is also good and played with synderen before.

On the China side of things, new LGD and EHOME look solid. Whether they do well or not depends on the next balance patch.