Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

[Orma]

So, valve is going to buff r[A]t heroes once in a while to let them win a tournament, then suck dick with the next patch and disband again?

 

[Mr. Pink]

Valve just fired the host of the Shanghai international (2gd) mid broadcast and expelled him from the event...

No announcement or explanation yet. Even the staff is fucking baffled

 

[Ninjerk]

That's awesome.

 

[Saark]

Having the CEO of Valve call you an ass publicly surely must be worth more than 10 achievement points.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

That's odd, as been ass is his shtick.

This has potential to be funny shitstorm,this guy gets it:

"It's actually oddly fitting Valve's communication about a host being canned in the middle of event, instead of an official release, is a reddit post by their CEO"

 

[Mr. Pink]

I feel like my dad just came home after abandoning our family, kissed my mom, slapped her, then took the dog and left.

 

[Saark]

While all the drama/personal stuff is kind of entertaining, I am actually looking forward to a great tournament once the new production crew (whoever it is has to be better than KeyTV) settled in.

As far as the 2gd drama is concerned, I had a couple of run-ins with him back when he was commentating for World of Warcraft and while he certainly could be considered a "dick" for the way he acts he handled all his responsibilities very professionally (at least back then).

 

[Ninjerk]

I salute you back, GabeN.

 

[Mr. Pink]

2GD [score hidden] 29 minutes ago

This is why my statement is taking sometime. It seems more personal than professional. So I will respond. Just for the record gabe, I don't think you are an ass. But I don't think you are right about me (well maybe you are a bit of an ass for calling me an ass, but let's find out what others think shall we?). Brb

what the fuck did 2GD do to warrant getting internet slapped by God himself?

 

[Saark]

But lets find out what others think shall we?

This right here is most likely one of the reasons. When your employer fires you for being an ass, regardless of whether you were told to "be yourself", even just trying to take the moral highground is a move that only someone with a ginormous ego would do.

 

[Ninjerk]

2GD [score hidden] 29 minutes ago

This is why my statement is taking sometime. It seems more personal than professional. So I will respond. Just for the record gabe, I don't think you are an ass. But I don't think you are right about me (well maybe you are a bit of an ass for calling me an ass, but let's find out what others think shall we?). Brb

what the fuck did 2GD do to warrant getting internet slapped by God himself?

You think he quits running his mouth when the cameras go off?

 

[Mr. Pink]

2GD [score hidden] 29 minutes ago

This is why my statement is taking sometime. It seems more personal than professional. So I will respond. Just for the record gabe, I don't think you are an ass. But I don't think you are right about me (well maybe you are a bit of an ass for calling me an ass, but let's find out what others think shall we?). Brb

what the fuck did 2GD do to warrant getting internet slapped by God himself?

You think he quits running his mouth when the cameras go off?

Most sensible CEOs would not fire someone for being an ass until after their task is completed. Something seriously bad has to have happened to terminate someone mid event. If a Richard Lewis can get away with choking a player backstage, what the fuck did 2GD do to top that?

 

[Saark]

They probably already decided to can KeyTV and bring some other more proficient production crew in, why stop there when you can get rid of the host aswell so the rest of the talent can prepare for taking over his responsibilities. While they certainly aren't as good as 2GD when it comes to actually hosting panels both Sheever and KotlGuy have done so in the past at smaller events.

 

[Mr. Pink]

They probably already decided to can KeyTV and bring some other more proficient production crew in, why stop there when you can get rid of the host aswell so the rest of the talent can prepare for taking over his responsibilities. While they certainly aren't as good as 2GD when it comes to actually hosting panels both Sheever and KotlGuy have done so in the past at smaller events.

if it were that simple, gaben would not have emerged from his spawning pool to personally call out James as an ass.

 

[Saark]

Someone had to, and I am someone who generally likes his style of hosting events. Everything else is speculation until 2GD releases a statement, which would in turn allow Valve to release one themselves. Until 2GD does though Valve are obligated by law to not discuss the reasons and circumstances for his firing until he himself does it, and giving a statement without those would be pretty much worthless.

 

[Ninjerk]

Until 2GD does though Valve are obligated by law to not discuss the reasons and circumstances for his firing until he himself does it, and giving a statement without those would be pretty much worthless.

What's the applicable law here?

Anyway, I hope it isn't for making fun of Swindlemelonzszszszs. That's comeuppance.

 

[Saark]

I would imagine that making a statement as to why they fired him to the general public would open them up to be sued for defamation. He may have been soliciting with underage chinese prostitutes or peed in the the production directors cup of coffee for all we know, in any case it is none of the vocal complainants business (mostly reddit/twitter) and should therefore not be disclosed in a statement just to calm the masses.

Calling him an ass certainly didn't do them (Valve/Gaben) any favours in that regard though.

 

[Jasede]

What a brilliant move. No matter how much people might have loved this guy, the internet surely loves Gaben more.
Fucking Valve, being so smart again.

 

[Ninjerk]

James posted an insane-looking, rambling response. Sounds like he was talking shit backstage at TI4 and saying they dropped the ball.

 

[Mr. Pink]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B061Rs4gw4zkCec35Q5v2r576e_Jd6pJfrT_5_GZ74I/preview?pref=2&pli=1

the dramapocalypse has arrived

TLDR: valve worker has grudge on james, fucks him over.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Group Stage I am in a weird mindset for this one. Valve have made a lot of decisions that has taken the event backwards in my opinion, further away from esports and more into sports. including these problems we do not get paid for our time as hosts only signatures…

Remember those? Well basically our pay was 0. but we got money every time someone would buy an item and add our ingame signature. So if you added my signature for a dollar. I think I got 50c or the whole dollar. I cannot remember. So valve turned the talent into signature salesmen and women. Everyone is in a bad mood. Though luckily a lot of talent talk to Valve and we got this changed and had a base payment no matter what signatures we sold. but If we sold a lot of signatures we get more than our base salary. If we do not they will give us our base pay. So…. they outsourced all talent costs gg. But to explain. if I’m paid 10k, and I sale 11k signatures for 1 dollar each. I am paid 11k. If the sigs gave us 1 dollar. If I’m paid 10k and sale signatures for 2k. I am paid 10k. got it? good!

what the fuck is wrong with valve? who comes up with these shitty ideas? how can they treat their own employees salaries like some kind of f2p phone game bullshit

 

[communard]

Live by the hat, die by the hat.

 

[flyingjohn]

Valve sucks at communication(for both employees and customers),and is not the savior of pc gaming.
News at 11.

 

[Mr. Pink]

... Because well they want to put sheever on with me because she is ‘a girl’ (privately told why) and we are on ESPN2, and of course it looks good if we have female presenters for the main stream.

 

[Seethe]

What a brilliant move. No matter how much people might have loved this guy, the internet surely loves Gaben more.
Fucking Valve, being so smart again.

You have to be a fucking retard to like Valve or Gaben after that modding stunt they pulled in the spring. And the way they handled this was pathetic, from the moment 2GD was fired, til the moment Gaben posted on Reddit.