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Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

What modes should we play?


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Zed

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trolluwarlordu can be pretty fun. like so many other heroes, they've changed him a bit since I last played him in the original dota. but I kind of like him like this.
 

Damned Registrations

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Yeah the account I got that pick from is 97% percentile. This isn't really news to me though. I mean, even with just the normal... very high brackets you could tell it didn't mean a fucking thing. I just played a game against a tinker who went arcane boots first item. After getting firstblooded by me. He won. I had 3 of the most retarded people I have ever seen on my team, and the only decent guy was offlane windrunner, so he had no impact anyways. Next game? I win by doing the completely retarded level 1 huskar jungle at 20 hp gimmick. Easy fucking win too. 97% of the player base is utter shit at dota.

Putting that aside, the DBR is fairly pointless for two reasons: it doesn't know what dota 2 uses for a rating system, so it can't calibrate for team discrepencies based on that. Second, it doesn't know if a team is a pub or a 5 stack, which obviously influnces win rates massively.
 
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What the hell is this? 2GB patch? Saw something about a patch on the dev forums a couple of days ago, but that was only a bunch of buf fixes really. So what is this? 1.99GB worth of hats?

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Malakal

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Yeah the account I got that pick from is 97% percentile. This isn't really news to me though. I mean, even with just the normal... very high brackets you could tell it didn't mean a fucking thing. I just played a game against a tinker who went arcane boots first item. After getting firstblooded by me. He won. I had 3 of the most retarded people I have ever seen on my team, and the only decent guy was offlane windrunner, so he had no impact anyways. Next game? I win by doing the completely retarded level 1 huskar jungle at 20 hp gimmick. Easy fucking win too. 97% of the player base is utter shit at dota.

Putting that aside, the DBR is fairly pointless for two reasons: it doesn't know what dota 2 uses for a rating system, so it can't calibrate for team discrepencies based on that. Second, it doesn't know if a team is a pub or a 5 stack, which obviously influnces win rates massively.

While I generally agree with this post you should consider the fact that Tinker shouldnt really steal all the farm from his team so going BoT isnt always the optimal thing to do early. If its a ganker Tinker arcane and bottle/wards work way better and allow your carries to farm safely in non pushed by you lanes. Ever tried competing for farm with Tinker? Then you know what I mean.
 

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BoT != stealing farm though. I mean obviously you can, but that's true of any hero with AoE shit that can nuke a wave every 20 seconds. Competing for farm with a Lina or KotL is just as bad. If anything, pushing BoT back 1500 gold in your build means you need to take even more farm before you can actually fill your role as a hero that can be omnipresent on the map. The whole idea of tinker is that you can defend every tower, farm any jungle/ancient stacks your team can't, farm lanes nobody is going to farm, and gank heroes that are farming a lane alone but are nowhere near a tower. This guy basically just sat in lane until he had Arcanes + BoT, which is a terrible shit way to play tinker, who drops off massively once laser + rocket stops being a significant threat unless you get a dagon or sheepstick or something.
 

Zed

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I've got 18 invites now. Just PM steam name if you want one.
 

alkeides

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The past few matches, whenever I played public by myself, I get relatively good teams usually, with little lag. For some reason, when I team up with some friends, then the extra member or members will be shit -- such as a monolingual Spanish speaker for some reason deciding to come to Southeast Asia and I get lag.

Also, I got disconnected from one match for a while but reconnected and was still marked as having abandoned it. Now I am on the low priority list. How long will it take to come out of it?

I'm Mr. Douchemeister Wigglesworth if anyone wants to add me.
 

Malakal

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Thats my observation too - when I solo queue I have more luck in random teammates than when I queue with friends. Guess stacks are matched with worst players for balance.
 

Chef_Hathaway

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Thats my observation too - when I solo queue I have more luck in random teammates than when I queue with friends. Guess stacks are matched with worst players for balance.

P much, from what I've observed. If you have anything less than a 5 man you or one of your friends better have a strong fucking back to carry the anchors that get put in with you.
 
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Ulminati

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steam said:
O hi thar! So we saw you gave away a dota2 key to everyone on your friends list to be rid of them, then put the remainder on the steam market place for 0.01 euro to BE THE FUCK RID OF THEM. So we gave you another 10 Dota2 keys. Kthxbai.



ffs valve


Just make the game open f2p already and stop bothering us with those retarded keys
 

SerratedBiz

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Maybe you're thinking of LoL, DOTA is surprisingly scarce in the T&A department compared to that one.
 

Zed

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today's patch introduced a system that allows you to create guides and item builds. it will truly help out newbs.

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alkeides

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Bah, a guy on my friend's list kicked me from the party after one loss out of a few wins. I was randoming and didn't know how to use Riki. The guy's a bit of an asshole; he thinks he's pro but whenever he goes mid with DR he keeps getting killed.
 

Castanova

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After taking a break from Dota2 for a month or two, I came back. I'm like 6-2 since returning including my latest game where my NS + a Gyro won a 2v3 game after people mass-disconnected. So satisfying.
 

Cromwell

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fuck me, I thought the Lol Thread was the only moba thing here. now Im happy.
 

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