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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]
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Yeah that blog post was a straight up nothing burger.
It wasn't even interesting for me as a gamedev because I just rolled my eyes at how hard people are justifying their jobs.
It doesn't help that whoever wrote that was being patronizing as fuck.
"Hello kids! Of course you wouldn't know what these jobs are, so let me explain them to you, you fucking thick-skulled cretins! Yes I will!"
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Designers *have* to know code in this day and age, although that path is taken by people who find an iteration cycle too difficult to program.(Important note: Designers aren't programmers!)
What is the utility of their job then?
Also: those skill trees look exactly the same as the ones in DA:I.
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Dragon age, Mass Effect, Witcher = heralds of decline
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Should we expect Dreadwolf by the end of 2023?
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Well thanks for explaining what your jobs are i guess?
In this regard the dragon age series has been nothing but steady decline and the mass effect series for its many faults were carried almost entirely by their recurring supporting cast to the point people obsessed enough about them to write detailed chemical breakdowns of their sweat.
Late answer but even this isn’t true as said NPCs have to be people you want as your virtual friends and lovers.
In this regard the dragon age series has been nothing but steady decline and the mass effect series for its many faults were carried almost entirely by their recurring supporting cast to the point people obsessed enough about them to write detailed chemical breakdowns of their sweat.
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They started Alpha just 4 months ago, so it's probably coming out late 2024 the earliest.
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Nah. Sawyer can't code. Neither can Avellone. They hire people specifically to script the things the narrative and area designers want, code the things the systems designers want.
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If they were good at their jobs, they wouldn't be hated.
If they were good at their jobs, they wouldn't be hated.
OK them
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Then they should. Designers having at least an idea of how coding works would seriously improve development processes since they wouldn't be coming up with crazy ideas that are impossible to implement.
I mean, you can learn every programming language you want by watching youtube tutorials.
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I'm not sure if that's even that hard. It's not like designers exist in a vaccuum. There's producers and there's working with programmers your whole career. I don't know shit about black magic geomancy that programmers do but I get the feeling that after 5-10 years of working with them I'd have an inkling of what they can do. Plus, what's possible and what's impossible is kinda on them and their tools innit. Sawyer seems to be a good example. Guy played super conservatively in PoE1 and 2. The weird and stupid ideas like storybook ship combat came from above.
If a designer is proposing dumb shit then the problem might be deeper than them not having a background as coders. They might not have a background as designers.
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Anthony Davis has made the claim that Sawyer is in fact a programmer's designer despite not knowing how to code https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/developer-story-time-with-old-man-davis.83113/
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Designers are the idea guys of the industry. In the past, this is justified by them being really good at their jobs.
When they're not good at their jobs, they're dead weight. Oh, and since they're idea guys, it means they have the fewest technical qualifications to land another job in the industry.
Except level designers. You guys rock.
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If only. If they manage to release this garbage, all reditters will instabuy it and they'll get some cash to pay their HRT.
They change totally the design of the game.
Initially was a multi-player game with transactions. But with the success of Jedi whatever they saw again a great potential for single player focused games and gave a greenlight to change the game to be like anterior games.
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Not only does this game exist, it’s like the third or fourth version of it to exist over a span of eight years.
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And it'll be like 11 terrible games since BG2 in 2000/2001.
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