Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lacrymas]

It's not a completely different type of game, one can trace a very clear line between DA2 and this abomination.

 

[damager]

Dude you can't even control your companions. The fuckers not even have a health bar. By now it's only Dragon Age in name. It looks more like some Devil May Cry type of shit.

 

[The Wall]

You simply don't understand how retarded you are. Or you think the problem will be solved if Veilguard sells badly. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH. No. Problem won't be solved

Only thing that can solve problem, problem being shortage of quality RPGs in vain of Dragon Age Origins, Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout: New Vegas or even better ones is for BRAND NEW studios to form and make them. That's it. That's literally it. And heads of those new studios SIMPLY HAVE to have strong either center or center right or classicly liberal or apolitical beliefs. That's it. That's it

Everything else is imposibbility. NEMOGUĆE JEBOTE. Those studios forming? Very much possible, already happening and you give them very little air to breath. On the other side you keep giving mouth-to-mouth life support to dead tranny on the floor called Bioware

 

[onemananadhisdroid]

The “return to form” line they’re all running with is pretty funny given this is an action game with a dialogue wheel. Melee based action games isn’t exactly something BioWare is known for, and an ever devolving version of their dialogue wheel system isn’t a “return” since it’s where they’ve wholly been since Dragon Age 2 came out.

Even Inquisition was for some a "return to form".

Every Fifa, every Assassin's Creed, every Call Of Duty is a "return to form".

Google [game series]+return to form.


It's a phrase applied to any game series where a title is perceived to be stronger than the last one. The only curiousity about Veilguard about this is that Metacritic chose the exact paragraphs containing all that dead language. In particular as Veilguard was already teased by many as a possible "return of Bioware" -- and form there on it's not far to the tired old "return to form". But Black Ops 6 lists a few already as well. And for Assassin's Creed Mirage you can count them easily. You may as well search sports journalism for all the tired repeats and cliches that have lost all punch or meaning (if they ever had one). Just because somebody is a journalist, doesn't necessarily mean he's a master of the beauty in language.

 

[Dark Souls II]

I bring you the good stuff. I recorded all sequences from the Qunari non-binary companion, Taash. Spoilers are a given (unless you don't care about her story).

Holy shit, 30 minutes of content in the game is watching cutscences about "gender dysphoria"? So if a playthrough is 30h, almost 2% of that is watching a cutscene about gendershit. And that's just from this one companion, I'm sure there's more.

One minute into the video and I already burst out laughing at "do you like being a woman?". Outstanding dialogue.

 

[Yosharian]

Also, reminder that "return to form" for BioWare would be BG1, not DA:O. DA:O was hated here when it launched and was declared a harbinger of decline.

I mean I don't think opinions have really changed that much, DA:O is definitely a dumbed down game compared to the BG series. It's just that compared to the RPGs we get nowadays even DA:O looks like a masterpiece (it isn't)

You vastly prefer DA:O over KCD, Drova and such?

updated my .txt

wat

I obviously wasn't referring to ALL RPGS when I said that, I meant the dross we get from triple A studios

 

[Morgoth]

Also, reminder that "return to form" for BioWare would be BG1, not DA:O. DA:O was hated here when it launched and was declared a harbinger of decline.

That's par for the course of every Bioware release.

 

[d1r]

The fuckers not even have a health bar.

This is absolute bonkers. It's like as if those bioware self-inserts didnt give the players the permission to get mentally or physically hurt. Can't hurt those fee-fee's during dialogues either.

 

[ferratilis]

It looks more like some Devil May Cry type of shit.

Come on man, DMC has good combat at least. And better writing (as stupid as it is). And better looking characters.

 

[damager]

Also, reminder that "return to form" for BioWare would be BG1, not DA:O. DA:O was hated here when it launched and was declared a harbinger of decline.

That's par for the course of every Bioware release.

Wildschwein look at this



You really wanna sit down and play through this yeah, am I positive?

 

[Morgoth]

Ain't gonna watch spoiler shit.

 

[0sacred]

Ain't gonna watch spoiler shit.

Yeah, you definitely want to go in blind to get the most out of this stuff.

 

[Lacrymas]

Ain't gonna watch spoiler shit.

There really is nothing to spoil, it's all so predictable you know how this goes just by hearing this character is non-binary.

 

[d1r]

Ain't gonna watch spoiler shit.

What the fuck are you even doing in this thread then? There is a very high Chance that you will encounter them here.

 

[GrainWetski]

I'm getting the feeling that where ever I look, the troons and their pets outnumber the based by at least 10:1. I thought the pendulum was supposed to be swinging back. There's not a single place outside Codex where you could be safe from their insipid bullshit. They can't be that numerous.

Could this indeed be some kind of media manipulation via bot armies and paid shills, or just a bunch of permanently online social warriors coordinating their attacks?

This is what no one gets here. We are an echo chamber minority just like Resetera but on the OTHER side of the culture war. However! The vast majority of normies are absolute fucking retards and are easily swayed by propaganda. Basically NPCs, they can form no opinions of their own.

So anyone under say, age 40, is a dumb ass consoomer and will gladly consoom product with little thought or care about the messaging. "Things are just this way now" is the extent of their cognition regarding this absurd agenda. That is your blackpill for today, swallow it down you are surrounded by midwits and the brain damaged and it gets worse every decade as IQs drop like a stone.

Spot on on the echo chamber part, because jesus holy christ you people are twisting yourself into sobbing balls of hysterics as if this shit game matters in the course of western civilization. Fucking everyone is on their period throwing money at the cracks in the wall to keep the joos away because Veilguard means that the spooky wokes are out to get them.

This game will suck, yes, and and it will also sell fine out of the gate. Bioware will do a victory lap, and be on the lookout for whether they announce that it's "their biggest launch ever" like they did with Inquisition (the market is bigger now, so I don't know how much that means anything, but if they don't the silence sure will be conspicuous). I still think there's an outside chance it snags a GOTY nomination, but that'll depend on how the game is received on launch, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it launched to mixed reviews even from normals. I know a lot of people are planning to buy it just to review bomb it and then refund the game later, but for god's sake have the sense to not sound quite so fucking unhinged. If there's anything that normals hate more than a bad game, it's people spamming all this deranged conspiratorial political nonsense. Just focus on how it fails as a game, there should be plenty of meat on the bone there - running around screeching about the wokes are hiding under your bed is just going to play right into their hands and "prove" that the only people who don't like it are unfuckable hate nerds.

Still, for chrissake sake, perspective. Saint's Row reboot had the same caliber writing. Bomb. Forespoken had the same quality writing. Bomb. Immortals of Aveum might be the worst written piece of shit I've ever seen, cost EA 120 million goddamned dollars, and it fell off the face of the earth, taking well over 100 million dollars with it.

"Consoomers" seemed to gauge the quality of those products just fine.

Fellow, human-oids, we must ignore the "wokes" and let them continue to do what they do lest we prove them right that we are nazihitlergoebbelsincels!

The only thing worse than the trannies shilling these games are the "neutrals" that always show up to tell everyone to stop being big bad meanies. Oh no, the Redditors(whom you think are normies for some reason) are going to call you an incel. The world is coming to an end, surely.

You're so fucking retarded you don't even understand how much we agree. It's almost easier to deal with a tard you half agree with, because the lines are easy to draw. The problem with chimp brains that you meet 95% of the way on, they gibber and froth and scream over that 5% like it's scissors coming after their dicks.

Pretty much everyone here is on the same page (except for that one dude, shine on you crazy diamond).

Let me break this down into pieces so they're easier to swallow:

A) Is this game woke as all fuck? Yes. Absurdly, hilariously so. Hell, that's half the fun, they were so eager about their agendas they let it run right over the need to make an actual game (same for a lot of reviewers, methinks). I think there's a very strong possibility of profound backlash when this game his shelves - not because normies are torn up about the politics, but because the game won't be there. And man, I'm sooooooo here for that.

So yeah, tear it a new assholle. Tear it five new genders. That's all part of the fun.

B) That said, a buncha y'all get fucking deranged with this weird-ass conspiracy nonsense, like Veilguard is breaking the seventh seal and the eight rainbows of the apocalypse are coming to get you. I'm not saying to get a grip because the politics upset my oh-so-gentle feelings or the ruffle the feathers fragile messes, I'm saying to chill because it's fucking boring and clutters shit up. I want to laugh at the game, not get derailed by a bunch of tards posting excerpts from their mass shooting manifesto.

Look, people have obviously been around longer than me, so I'm not going to put claims on what the site has always been, but back when I joined I put up a question "What caused The Decline?" Got a lot of really interesting and informed answers, a lot of people had insight into problems and transitions in the industry, mainly the pressures coming from producing with HD quality and the decline in PC sales. Just game and industry talk, not a word about people's freakish politics. You ask that question today, you might get insight, but you'd have to dig through pages of hysterical crybabies screeching about about how the woke monster barged in and raped their grandma. Are politics an issue? Yeah, fucking duh. But acting like it's the sole bogeyman in a complex industry, I'm sorry but all y'all on this train are fucking dumb. Posting about it endlessly is dumb. Worse than dumb.

It. Is. Boring.

C) No buddy, nobody is trying to censor you on this site or protect redditors from your ability to regurgitate mid-2010s 4chan in all its glory. The main point I'm making, my advice, if you want this game to fail, is to keep your derangement in your pants when you fan out into normie spaces. Because it will backfire. That is reality. And I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings.

Quite frankly, though, I care more about hurting Bioware's feelings and all their media enablers than yours.

So you gotta ask - what do you value more, for this game to be publicly humiliated, or the chance to crawl out of this safe space to gibber and froth in the town square? Because if you do, don't be surprised if Bioware and all their enablers point a finger directly at you and say "see, our haters are gibbering, frothing retards." Your fucking stupidity will be their shield. So no, it's not about protecting them, it's about defeating them. What's matters more? You want to fight smart or fight dumb?

Me, I'm just annoyed when I have to scroll past so many conspiracy nutters. It'd be nice for them to touch grass, sure, but my greater hope is for this game to fail, or at least encounter some serious backlash, and I'm just telling y'all the most effective way to make that happen.

Keep it in your pants.

"Ya'll" constantly, huh? Give us evil nazi incel conspiracy nuts some more tips on how to defeat you them, mr Neutral.

 

[The Wall]

So is it fun or is it dumb to make fun of the game for being woke? You’re giving me mixed messages here. Like I agree that some people need to chill out

I also agree that I have to chill out, though I'm angry only in text. In RL I write them while I shit with small smirk on my face. Pretty chill. But yes, that's valid part of his criticism

Invalid is how MAGICALLY everything will sort itself out if simply games like Veilguard sell badly. People like him don't realize that every tranny carcass that falls like Concord or soon Veilguard releases a large fart into cultural stratosphere and it mixes with air we all breath and slowly changes us from inside. What we need is fresh air. Like Monomyth, Alkahest, Kingdom Come 2, Swordhaven, ExeKiller. Many probably didn't even hear about them. Well? Look them up

Salvation is in creating your own reality and not being part of WOKE reality. Solution lays in offering and being positive alternative. Because CO-EXISTANCE with WOKE is nightmare

 

[dbx]

Is it even possible to spoiler a nu-bioware game?

 

[Morgoth]

Ain't gonna watch spoiler shit.

What the fuck are you even doing in this thread then? There is a very high Chance that you will encounter them here.

Oh, I'll avoid this thread starting tomorrow, when the game launches.

What the fuck are you doing here?

 

[Nikanuur]

Not at bloody all.
You see, game reviewers play a load of games. That doesn't necessarily make them masters of beauty though. "Return to form" is one of those trite and banal phrases, dead language that....

One could get lost in the superficiality of the outside without beacons of reason such as yours. I thankfully, respectfully nod to this.

 

[countrydoctor]

Look at this diversity of roleplaying choices.
Like holy shit, remember when in DAO you could screw over a dude just to fuck a desire demon? Be the most miserable cunt possible towards everyone?

 

[Karwelas]

Look at this diversity of roleplaying choices.
Like holy shit, remember when in DAO you could screw over a dude just to fuck a desire demon? Be the most miserable cunt possible towards everyone?

Brother, you could kill a fucking child to get power pact with a demon and still get out with profit from it. Few games outside of Planescspe and DA:O allow you to be this level of ruthless son of a bitch.

 

[Swen]

Swen fire this man.

Sometimes he says something based though;

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-indu...-developers-must-get-used-to-not-having-jobs/

If gamers need to get used to not owning games, 'developers must get used to not having jobs'​

 

[The Wall]

Look at this diversity of roleplaying choices.
Like holy shit, remember when in DAO you could screw over a dude just to fuck a desire demon? Be the most miserable cunt possible towards everyone?

Remember, this is shit that weasels like Josh Sawyers, Mike Laidlaws, ActMans and Infinitrons will defend in coming days as future of RPGs. Your RPGs, not my RPGs

 

[Camel]

So you gotta ask - what do you value more, for this game to be publicly humiliated, or the chance to crawl out of this safe space to gibber and froth in the town square? Because if you do, don't be surprised if Bioware and all their enablers point a finger directly at you and say "see, our haters are gibbering, frothing retards." Your fucking stupidity will be their shield. So no, it's not about protecting them, it's about defeating them. What's matters more? You want to fight smart or fight dumb?

What exactly do you want people to say about Veilguard?

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

It looks more like some Devil May Cry type of shit.

Come on man, DMC has good combat at least. And better writing (as stupid as it is). And better looking characters.

Yeah, if the action gameplay in this looked even half as good as Devil May Cry, BioWare might have actually been onto something with going for action. But the gameplay looks abysmal.

Action gameplay isn’t the problem, it’s that the action gameplay looks like fucking shit. Although the timing of going for a purely action based combat system is really funny given how huge a hit Baldur's Gate 3 turned out to be.