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[DayofBlow]

Origins was alright.

Someone remind me again what's up with all this hype? I thought DA4 is still 2-3 years off, so what could they possibly announce? DA auto battler?

Continued employment.

 

[Reinhardt]

Origins was alright.

For playing it once. If you try to replay it it's one of the most bland and boring games in the world.

 

[LESS T_T]

 

[Morgoth]

Eat shit and die, Darrah.

 

[Lacrymas]

Ten years of a shitslide that is ever downwards.

 

[Nines_Anarch]

 

[Frozen]

I don't get this Diarrhea dude strategy. Its not smart trying to piss on those few people that are still interested in your crap.

Or he thinks its edgy to be an idiot?

 

[Cael]

I don't get this Diarrhea dude strategy. Its not smart trying to piss on those few people that are still interested in your crap.

Or he thinks its edgy to be an idiot?

Isn't that what modern day game developers do these days? For example, Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkessian and Kevin Maginn?

 

[Silverfish]

I don't get this Diarrhea dude strategy.

J.J. Abrams "mystery box" nonsense.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

Dragon Age 4: All the rumors and details we know so far

Dragon Age 4 is reportedly still in pre-production, but we can guess some details about its characters, settings, and gameplay.

(Image credit: Bioware)
Dragon Age 4 was, for several years, one of the most open secrets in gaming. After the ending of Dragon Age: Inquisition's final DLC made it very clear that the saga of Thedas was far from over, we've been expecting another Dragon Age game to follow it. Despite BioWare constantly dodging any official confirmation that the fourth game is in the works, clues have long hinted that it was underway. Executive Producer Mark Darrah is a constant Twitter user fond of retweeting fan works and making cryptic statements to tease fans.

At The Game Awards in December 2018, BioWare released a teaser trailer for what we can only assume is Dragon Age 4. Although there's precious little information to be learned from the brief video, we do know something is in the works, and more recent clues from Bioware have made us think an announcement could be imminent.

Here's everything we know about Dragon Age 4's existence, a possible release date, trailers, characters, and more.

What is Dragon Age 4's release date?
We don't have a release date for Dragon Age 4 yet. There are still a lot of things we don't know about the game. We do know that it's likely still quite a ways off. As in, easily more than a year.

In BioWare's September Update on its blog, general manager Casey Hudson, amidst news about Anthem's future, says "One of our projects has a large and growing team in Edmonton working through pre-production, and based on the progress I’m seeing, I can confirm that indeed the Dread Wolf rises." The good news is that BioWare is no longer allergic to saying the words "new Dragon Age game" in public. The bad news is that Hudson mentions this quasi-unnamed project is still in pre-production. For games the size that BioWare makes, this means there's still a long road ahead.

Dragon Age was referred to during EA's October 2019 earnings call. The information was brief and pretty non-committal but according to CFO Blake Jorgensen, the next Dragon Age game "probably comes after fiscal [2022]," meaning after April 2022. Jorgensen also cautions that they don't often make such predictions multiple years in advance. It's hard to say whether "fiscal '22" is an ambitious estimate or an extremely cautious one so we'll just have to wait to hear more.

Here's the first teaser for Dragon Age 4

The two things we know for sure from the teaser released during the 2018 Game Awards are "The Dread Wolf Rises" and that Solas, the Dread Wolf himself, should be making an appearance.

Which characters will be in Dragon Age 4?
Dragon Age has a history of reusing characters, like Varric Tethras who is a companion in both Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition, and cameos like Zevran who shows up in a Dragon Age 2 quest after being a party member in Dragon Age: Origins. It's safe to say that we'll see some familiar faces in Dragon Age 4, but which ones?

So far BioWare has committed to hanging up its protagonists between Dragon Age games. Each adventure comes with a new hero, though the Grey Warden and Hawke do have the ability to cameo in Dragon Age: Inquisition. It's possible we might then see an appearance of The Inquisitor player character in Dragon Age 4, but they'll likely not be center stage.

One character we know will play a part in the events of Dragon Age 4 is the Dread Wolf himself. Solas's voice is heard in the first teaser trailer for the game and his relationship to the greater struggles of Thedas means he's not going anywhere any time soon. Similarly, it would be a shock if Flemeth doesn't make a return as well. Flemeth and Solas, both elven legends or gods going by many names, seem to be central to the overarching plot of the series.

Another old friend that may make a comeback is Fenris, the Tevinter elven warrior from Dragon Age 2. Dark Horse recently announced another Dragon Age comic featuring Fenris called Blue Wraith. It's hard to say whether Fenris appearing in a comic is setting him up for a cameo in Dragon Age 4 or for retirement as a character. Previous protagonists showing up in supporting Dragon Age media have gone both ways in the past.

Lastly, will we see Commander Cullen or King Alistair again? Both have made at least some appearance in all three Dragon Age games so far. Will they continue the trend?

So is Dread Wolf Rises the title of Dragon Age 4?
It could be, or it might just be a statement about the plot. Whether or not the game is named after our friend Solas, he will certainly be playing a pivotal role, it seems.

What is the setting of Dragon Age 4?
Dragon Age 4 almost has to take place in Tevinter. The mage-run society with the diverging branch of the Chantry has been the mythical boogeyman of every Dragon Age game so far. Not only did the final Trespasser DLC for Dragon Age Inquisition end with the Inquisitor stabbing Tevinter with a dagger (not at all subtle), but there have been plenty of very promising signs leading us to the northern country since then.

Back in April 2019, Kotaku published a report on the history (and future) of Dragon Age 4's development. Among other details, it found that the original incarnation of the next game, codenamed Joplin at the time, was set in Tevinter. "You’d play as a group of spies in Tevinter Imperium," the report says.

That version of Dragon Age 4 was subsequently cancelled as BioWare's Edmonton branch pivoted to assist developing first Mass Effect Andromeda and then Anthem. Dragon Age 4 has since been resurrected under the new codename Morrison. It's possible that the new codename comes with a new location, but setting the next installment of the series in Tevinter feels like a foundational element that likely would not have changed.

Most recently, we found out that several Dragon Age writers are collaborating on a collection of short stories called Tevinter Nights due out March 10th, 2020, according to Amazon. In the past, novels in the Dragon Age setting (like Masked Empire) leading up to a new release have laid the groundwork for important characters or settings that will show up in the next game. Tevinter Nights may very well introduce us to some important supporting characters for Dragon Age 4.

What will Dragon Age 4's gameplay be like?
It will certainly be an RPG, or so one would assume, but beyond that any real details about Dragon Age 4 are still very hush. From Kotaku's report on the first version of Dragon Age 4, codenamed Joplin, "a large chunk of Joplin would center on heists. The developers talked about building systemic narrative mechanics, allowing the player to perform actions like persuading or extorting guards without the writers having to hand-craft every scene. The goal was to focus as much as possible on choice and consequence, with smaller areas and fewer fetch quests than Dragon Age: Inquisition."

Game development is a highly iterative process, especially so at BioWare, according to Kotaku's reports on both Dragon Age 4 and Anthem. Dragon Age 4 has definitely changed staff and has likely changed vision as well now that it's known internally as Morrison. It's still possible that BioWare is attempting to make a smaller, denser open world for Dragon Age 4 after player critique that Inquisition's open world felt somewhat empty.

In a post to BioWare's blog following the teaser trailer from December 2018, Darrah wrote that "we have been building a new team around a core of Dragon Age veterans, people I’ve worked with on Dragon Age, Jade Empire, and some of whom I’ve worked with since the Baldur’s Gate days." While that may just be a way to reassure players of the quality the team will produce for Dragon Age 4, it might also mean that BioWare is looking to channel its earliest cRPG roots for its next game.

Is Dragon Age 4 going to be online-only like Anthem?

In early 2018, Kotaku reported that Dragon Age 4 had been rebooted as a "live" game to better fit with EA's push for "games as a service" that could continue to generate revenue after initial launch sales. After the report, BioWare's general manager Casey Hudson clarified that "live" didn't necessarily have to be at odds with what players love about Dragon Age games.

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In Kotaku's April 2019 report, another source says that "Morrison’s critical path, or main story, would be designed for single-player and that goal of the multiplayer elements would be to keep people engaged so that they would actually stick with post-launch content."

BioWare certainly won't be immune to whatever monetization strategies EA enforces. We can hope that the BioWare team manages to fit those goals into a form that doesn't feel at odds with the single-player-first experience we expect from a Dragon Age game.

As promised, Executive Producer Mark Darrah is doing a lot of silly prodding on Twitter
We're very aware that Mark Darrah's Twitter account should be taken with salt so consider this your warning. As just one of many silly stunts to get under the skin of fans, Darrah spent November 27th just tweeting "Dragon Age" over and over with various punctuation, images, and gifs.

 

[user]

It will certainly be an RPG, or so one would assume

 

[111111111]

CUCK AGE 4

Save the world from everyone trying to fuck your asshole at every dialogue scene. Magic, faggot elves and genderfluid galore.

 

[Nano]

Save the world from everyone trying to fuck your asshole at every dialogue scene. Magic, faggot elves and genderfluid galore.

That's my dream world, no way am I changing it.

 

[Silly Germans]

They should have focused on the politics parts of Origins, that was at least somewhat interesting, the whole fantasy part was tiresome.
Darskspawn that look pretty much like LoTR orcs are not exactly a visionary design feat. The same goes for the dwarves and elfs.

 

[J1M]

They should have focused on the politics parts of Origins, that was at least somewhat interesting, the whole fantasy part was tiresome.
Darskspawn that look pretty much like LoTR orcs are not exactly a visionary design feat. The same goes for the dwarves and elfs.

Yes, but they should add 2% more risk and constrain the game to one of the exotic foreign locations where the norms of society are different. Then you make an expansion that is set in another one, etc.

 

[RNGsus]

Is Solas a giant, talking wolf like Fenrir? That would be refreshing.

 

[thesecret1]

I played Inquisition, thinking "what's the worst that could happen?". Big mistake. I saw decline so massive that it brought me to the brink of existential crisis. I am kind of afraid to play whatever they poop out next.

 

[Reinhardt]

I played Inquisition, thinking "what's the worst that could happen?". Big mistake. I saw decline so massive that it brought me to the brink of existential crisis.

So is it gud or not? 8/10?

 

[AwesomeButton]

You had one job, Mark. And you misspelled "Retarded"

 

[Dodo1610]

First 2 Dragon Age 4 screenshots
Looks like Red Lyruim is a big plot point again
If they cancel this I am going to riot
the first Screenshot might be Skyhold fortress

 

[Kalin]

kys

 

[ADL]

Enjoy your microtransactions
https://onlysp.escapistmagazine.com/dragon-age-live-service/

 

[ADL]

I know it's old. It's just a reminder for anyone stupid enough to be excited by those exciting shots of... Red pustules and a tree?

 

[Dodo1610]

I wouldn't even have posted on the Codex if people weren't talking about Inquisition just last week
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-dragon-age-inquisition-thread.99382/page-211

 

[Nano]

I wouldn't even have posted on the Codex if people weren't talking about Inquisition just last week
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-dragon-age-inquisition-thread.99382/page-211

Why do you think you need to defend yourself like this because of Codex edgelords? Man up and tell them to fuck off.