Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Morgoth]

There were already companionfag games before BG2 like Torment, if anything Bioware was copying that.

Poorly, might I add. Torment's companions are all unique and captivating. The BG2 ones were ok, as were those from KotOR. Then it started going downhill, slowly at first (DAO and ME1 companions being good for what they were).

Heavy cope.

In 20 years, when Dragon Age 10 releases: "Dragon Age The Veilgard had good companions. It was the last really good DA game"

 

[Cryomancer]

In 20 years, when Dragon Age 10 releases: "Dragon Age The Veilgard had good companions. It was the last really good DA game"

Nope. DA2 was launched in 2011 and most people here call it trash and still mock the "awesome button" design philosophy.

 

[LizardWizard]

There were already companionfag games before BG2 like Torment, if anything Bioware was copying that.

Poorly, might I add. Torment's companions are all unique and captivating. The BG2 ones were ok, as were those from KotOR. Then it started going downhill, slowly at first (DAO and ME1 companions being good for what they were). Now we are past bland and well into Hopw Roewur Ne territory.

Jade Empire is when Bioware went full retard. Edgy Bisexual companion threesome, bribing IGN for that perfect 10

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I will play Dragon Age when this game launches. I will do another Origins run.

Will be funny if Origins ends up having more players than Drag Age Failguard in its launch.

Ultimate Edition has 1.1k players in the last 24 hours and 8.3k peak.

https://steamdb.info/app/47810/charts/

It is a possibility, and it would be hilarious.

So, we could organize the following. At day 31, everyone here should play Origins. Lets try to organize in other places too. Lets try to convince people in reeeeedit to do the same!!!

Oh yeah, you should show BioWare by getting people to buy a different game of theirs. They’ll hate that.

 

[Cryomancer]

buy a different game of theirs.

I have Origins in my steam account for years. Obviously if you don't own Origins in STEAM, you shouldn't do it.

 

[damager]

i will protest this by shitting on a screenshot of the horned blue tranny and uploading the photo on the bioware forums

 

[NecroLord]

Infinitron Will you play this shit?
Take one for the team, as it were?

 

[Konjad]

i will protest this by shitting on a screenshot of the horned blue tranny and uploading the photo on the bioware forums

Don't even joke about this. After a member of our prestigious site posted a photograph of his asshole in shoutbox to prove that he's "white" I started to consider such shitposts dead serious.

 

[Camel]

Oh yeah, you should show BioWare by getting people to buy a different game of theirs. They’ll hate that.

Most Codexers already bought DA:O.

 

[Lodis]

There were already companionfag games before BG2 like Torment, if anything Bioware was copying that.

Poorly, might I add. Torment's companions are all unique and captivating. The BG2 ones were ok, as were those from KotOR. Then it started going downhill, slowly at first (DAO and ME1 companions being good for what they were). Now we are past bland and well into Hopw Roewur Ne territory.

Jade Empire is when Bioware went full retard. Edgy Bisexual companion threesome, bribing IGN for that perfect 10

Fucking both female love interests (who turn out to be cousins) at the same time was great though. If a game is going to throw in romance shit with companions they might as well go full male fantasy. Unfortunately Bioware and other devs these days only cater to faggot and tranny fantasies.

 

[Lodis]

They're not even trying to be subtle anymore

 

[ColonelMace]

There were already companionfag games before BG2 like Torment, if anything Bioware was copying that.

Poorly, might I add. Torment's companions are all unique and captivating. The BG2 ones were ok, as were those from KotOR. Then it started going downhill, slowly at first (DAO and ME1 companions being good for what they were). Now we are past bland and well into Hopw Roewur Ne territory.

I find you too harsh towards BG2 companions. The interactions between them are still remarkable to this day. And sometimes characterise them better than mere dialog lines. Anomen doesn't just eventually claim to become a sour crestfallen cunt, he acts like one. Same with Yoshimo, who's quite literally a backstabbing scoundrel.
I wish more designers had the balls to do what BG1&2 (especially 2) offered in terms of party reactivity. There's so much potential, if you dare rob the player of his total control over recruitable NPCs.

Oh yeah, you should show BioWare by getting people to buy a different game of theirs. They’ll hate that.

And a bad one to boot.

 

[gurugeorge]

It's an interesting question though, I mean a lot of us here have been capable of "holding our noses" wrt various aspects of games, and it's true that BW games have been pozzed (as opposed to just, "why can't we all just get along?" type liberal) for quite some time, probably since about JE as someone said above.

So what's the "tipping point?" What's making me absolutely unwilling to follow BW into Veilguard, while I was kind of okay with DA:I (even though it was right at the edge of my tolerance)?

One important thing is the vague memory of the good times one had with DA:O. That was quite strong through DA2 and even DA:I had a lingering perfume of it. DA:I still felt like the same virtual world to some extent, and that was enough to induce me to keep up the nose-holding.

Then, even up to DA:I, the poz was still being offered as an option (the saving grace of BG3's poz btw). But as with a lot of modern product, it looks like this game has tipped over into it being the only way to play the game.

I think that's the tipping point generally; one can hold one's nose so long as the putrid stuff is still an option that one can more or less adroitly avoid, but when it becomes the whole of the product, that's it for me.

So say, with BW and a lot of game developers, for a long time, they had liberal or pozzed elements, but they were introduced in the context of "why can't we all just get along?" liberality. Over time the "you should appreciate this or you're a bigot" element got strong and stronger, till now, there's literally no escape. One feels like the guy in a Clockwork Orange, with one's eyeballs peeled back, forced to watch the horror.

But of course one isn't forced. Yet. One can still refuse to give one's life blood for the crap.

 

[Dr1f7]

reddit having a meltdown



"i like the cookies better"
"everyone likes the cookies better"
"i'll eat the fruit. thank you"

it's like they took notes from the people who make parodies of oblivion writing

 

[Konjad]

Suddenly "I saw a mudcrab the other day" doesn't sound that bad

 

[Hedasd]

reddit having a meltdown




it's oblivion tier writing ahaha

So these are the voice actors EA pushed in front of people in a convention even before announcing a release date for the game. Also how in the actual fuck that response from player character encourages the special snowflake to focus on benefits of multicultural background? These developers never stop surprising me with their high quality work, I honestly cant wait to see what other psychotic stuff they shoved into this game.

 

[Pink Eye]

Wow the voice actress voice does NOT match the face. My brain is at dissonance listening to a female voice while looking at a male face. What the fuck.

 

[Dr1f7]

LLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL

Also how in the actual fuck that response from player character encourages the special snowflake to focus on benefits of multicultural background?

didn't u hear? he said "i get that"
9.5/10 IGN

 

[Morgoth]

reddit having a meltdown



"i like the cookies better"
"everyone likes the cookies better"
"i'll eat the fruit. thank you"

it's like they took notes from the people who make parodies of oblivion writing

Wow, much ado about nothing.

Sometimes I wonder if you people can even function without having a constant Kulturkampf on your minds.

 

[kapisi]

LLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL

Also how in the actual fuck that response from player character encourages the special snowflake to focus on benefits of multicultural background?

didn't u hear? he said "i get that"
9.5/10 IGN

The irony of those two paragraphs, man

 

[Dr1f7]

It's an interesting question though, I mean a lot of us here have been capable of "holding our noses" wrt various aspects of games, and it's true that BW games have been pozzed (as opposed to just, "why can't we all just get along?" type liberal) for quite some time, probably since about JE as someone said above.

So what's the "tipping point?" What's making me absolutely unwilling to follow BW into Veilguard, while I was kind of okay with DA:I (even though it was right at the edge of my tolerance)?

One important thing is the vague memory of the good times one had with DA:O. That was quite strong through DA2 and even DA:I had a lingering perfume of it. DA:I still felt like the same virtual world to some extent, and that was enough to induce me to keep up the nose-holding.

Then, even up to DA:I, the poz was still being offered as an option (the saving grace of BG3's poz btw). But as with a lot of modern product, it looks like this game has tipped over into it being the only way to play the game.

I think that's the tipping point generally; one can hold one's nose so long as the putrid stuff is still an option that one can more or less adroitly avoid, but when it becomes the whole of the product, that's it for me.

So say, with BW and a lot of game developers, for a long time, they had liberal or pozzed elements, but they were introduced in the context of "why can't we all just get along?" liberality. Over time the "you should appreciate this or you're a bigot" element got strong and stronger, till now, there's literally no escape. One feels like the guy in a Clockwork Orange, with one's eyeballs peeled back, forced to watch the horror.

But of course one isn't forced. Yet. One can still refuse to give one's life blood for the crap.

remember the dialogue options in DA:O?

 

[kapisi]

Voice acting and whatever aside, Rook says "I get that" and it somehow translates into "you encouraged something something multicultural background"

This is the purest example of "tell, don't show", and in a goddam dialogue. Couldn't they have written an extra line? Without that "good boy" notification you would never even know that something meaningful happened.

Look, yadda yadda you said stuff and it produced this effect, okay?

I can picture writers in the background slamming character figurines together, "now kith!"

 

[Dr1f7]

Voice acting and whatever aside, Rook says "I get that" and it somehow translates into "you encouraged something something multicultural background"

This is the purest example of "tell don't show", and in a goddam dialogue. Couldn't they have written an extra line? Without that "good boy" notification you would never even know that something meaningful happened.

Look, yadda yadda you said stuff and it produced this effect, okay?

it's 10000000000000000000% checking some sweet baby ESG black rock funding box.
protest the game all u want but your tax dollars already paid for it twice

 

[Mortmal]

I mean okay. Dota 2, a 14 year old F2P game, is ahead of it and 10 games ahead of it is some indie furry game that probably cost 5000 bucks to make so that probably does mean nobody buys it at all

And steam deck is on top again, means really slow month.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Heavy cope.

In 20 years, when Dragon Age 10 releases: "Dragon Age The Veilgard had good companions. It was the last really good DA game"

The gap between DA1 & 2 was 2 years. Gap between DA 2 & Inquisition was 3 years.
Gap between Inquisition & Veilguard was 10 years.

What makes you believe we'll get another 6 in the next 20 years?