Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Xorazm]

A mainstream media outlet actually lights this bag of shit on fire and steps on it in public for all to see and smell instead of quietly huffing the shit fumes and saying it smells like roses.

Kudos and props to Forbes for still having enough balls to go against the narrative.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...political-messaging-does-more-harm-than-good/

Money quote---

The best way to convince someone of your own point-of-view is generally not to bash them over the head with a cudgel, though that seems to be the preferred approach in modern political discourse and, alas, in entertainment. The culture, being what it is, has lost all sense of subtlety. In far too many films, TV shows and video games, we see a heavy-handed, top-down approach to the issues of the day. It’s a real shame that the developers at BioWare decided to go this route in Dragon Age: The Veilguard.

I liked that he also gave an example of how to make this sort of messaging work (I know most people's default response is "there's no way with degeneracy," but hear him out, there's a lesson in there on good writing). He talks about a medieval quasi-fantasy book about King Arthur with a trans character, but the writer there does the work to make it feel organic. They simply didn't have words like "trans" or "non-binary" and if you asked for pronouns, people would look at you like you had two heads. So the author works around that, makes it an internal matter that mainly relies on developing the character's interior life.

The keyword is "work." Character development. Integration of an idea into the setting, carefully set up and executed over hundreds of pages.

In Veilguard you get a mirror.

 

[Xorazm]

So, when Mort was calling this his GOTY, I mentioned a few times that Mort never really hates a game "not like that dude at WorthABuy, when he hates something you really feel it."

Well his review is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0lRKqt_Hw&ab_channel=WorthABuy

And. It. Is.

Glorious.

 

[Elttharion]

If you thought this would be the wake up call for normies think again. I have seen a lot of people saying the cringe Trash scenes are 'satire' or 'ironic'.

 

[Late Bloomer]

So, when Mort was calling this his GOTY, I mentioned a few times that Mort never really hates a game "not like that dude at WorthABuy, when he hates something you really feel it."

Well his review is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0lRKqt_Hw&ab_channel=WorthABuy

And. It. Is.

Glorious.

 

[Harthwain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0lRKqt_Hw&ab_channel=WorthABuy

And. It. Is.

Glorious.

From your description I was expecting a much more fun video to watch. This is just a very straightforward delivery of what the game is. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not entertained.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

It's the same shit since Demon's Souls.

And? It's arguably the greatest formula in ARPG history, hell one of the greatest gaming formulas in general. Why should they change it?

Anyways fuck Dragon Age.

 

[Xorazm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0lRKqt_Hw&ab_channel=WorthABuy

And. It. Is.

Glorious.

From your description I was expecting a much more fun video to watch. This is just a very straightforward delivery of what the game is. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not entertained.

Most mainstream reviewer with normie credibility to give it a 4/10. Your expectations are miscalibrated.

If anybody can come up with a more angry slating and a lower number from an outlet which isn't already in the tank, I'll be interested, but I don't think it'll happen.

I'm not interested in circlejerking, I'm interested in teardowns reaching the masses. I'm interested in this game actually failing among the general audience.

Skillup made the point that EA's play was to juice initial scores so people would be reluctant to be the outlier. Cracks in that wall check EA and make it easier for subsequent reviewers to be harsher in their criticisms.

I want that Metacritic score to drop. I want the normies on the fence to see that number tumble and turn off.

I want this game to burn.

 

[Yosharian]

Which is worst? DA4 or ME4?

Having played the pirated version for a couple of hours today, just to see what all the noise was about, this is much worse than Andromeda.

Mass Effect Andromeda had some good gameplay elements, like the combat. This on the other hand, has absolutely no redeeming qualities, it's so bad that I'm baffled by the reviews, there is no explanation for some of these scores that doesn't end with corruption.

Yeah it actually makes ME4 look better by comparison. Andromeda still has terrible companions though similar to this

 

[Yosharian]

They made half the women in this game look like dudes in make-up, with protruding jaws, big noses and brow ridges. Isabela looks like a drag queen now.

Wasting hundreds of millions of other people's money making a AAA RPG where every character is trans must be the ultimate power trip for queerosexual gendermancers.

Shill! I dare you to show me a real feminine character in the whole game.

Actually some of the vendors and other NPCs don't look half bad

Also I thought morrigan looked ok - completely changed her character in every way and she doesn't speak or act like the same character from previous games though

 

[Yosharian]

I want that Metacritic score to drop. I want the normies on the fence to see that number tumble and turn off.

I want this game to burn.

The problem is everyone who would likely rip the game to pieces, won't buy it because they know how bad it is already

So the Steam score at least probably won't drop much lower

This game is tailor made for a certain type of either LGBTQ or female gamer, they're going to love it, they won't care about any of the things that your average RPG player cares about

Metacritic is another issue but metacritic scores don't matter at all, people just dismiss that as review bombing

 

[Yosharian]

My biggest surprise in this whole thing is how much the Codex rates Inquisition, apparently

 

[cioran]

Actually some of the vendors and other NPCs don't look half bad

Also I thought morrigan looked ok - completely changed her character in every way and she doesn't speak or act like the same character from previous games though

Show me an example with face&body so we can further discuss.

 

[Yosharian]

Actually some of the vendors and other NPCs don't look half bad

Also I thought morrigan looked ok - completely changed her character in every way and she doesn't speak or act like the same character from previous games though

Show me an example with face&body so we can further discuss.

Ok give me a bit and I'll screenshot one

 

[Yosharian]

So, when Mort was calling this his GOTY, I mentioned a few times that Mort never really hates a game "not like that dude at WorthABuy, when he hates something you really feel it."

Well his review is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy0lRKqt_Hw&ab_channel=WorthABuy

And. It. Is.

Glorious.

Yeah he nailed it completely. It was quite sad making a character in the creator because as he says, there was an actual good game here if they'd not done it the way they'd done it

I'll post some other thoughts in a bit

 

[GrainWetski]

A mainstream media outlet actually lights this bag of shit on fire and steps on it in public for all to see and smell instead of quietly huffing the shit fumes and saying it smells like roses.

Kudos and props to Forbes for still having enough balls to go against the narrative.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...political-messaging-does-more-harm-than-good/

Money quote---

The best way to convince someone of your own point-of-view is generally not to bash them over the head with a cudgel, though that seems to be the preferred approach in modern political discourse and, alas, in entertainment. The culture, being what it is, has lost all sense of subtlety. In far too many films, TV shows and video games, we see a heavy-handed, top-down approach to the issues of the day. It’s a real shame that the developers at BioWare decided to go this route in Dragon Age: The Veilguard.

The retarded cuck shilled the game before release and then when it's released and everyone finds out he's a lying sack of shit, he backtracks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...-veilguard-is-very-good---with-a-few-caveats/

It's typical MSM journo crap. Deceive people and then make a retraction too late that nobody reads.

Dragon Age has always been diverse, for one thing, and other stellar RPGs in recent years, from Cyberpunk 2077 to Baldur’s Gate III have had gender options and loads of diversity, and this didn’t impact their stories in a negative way. I haven’t encountered anything particularly galling or preachy in the story itself, and I’m happy to see more options for more players. You get to choose, right? That’s what makes RPGs so great in the first place. Having more choices is a good thing.

On the other hand, I’ve been playing the game for the last week-and-a-half and I’m having a blast.

He played for that long but supposedly didn't manage to see anything woke in the game until 30 mins after most people who considered buying already bought it. Yeah, sure.

Edit: I had not gotten to the part that is very, blatantly, hamfistedly overly woke. I have to walk back the above paragraphs. In my time with the game, I haven’t seen anything like this, but clearly BioWare has taken things into the realm of self-parody in at least one questline. You can watch the scene, and read my thoughts on the matter, right here.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

My biggest surprise in this whole thing is how much the Codex rates Inquisition, apparently

 

[Konjad]

Yes. Meanwhile the Gnomes are innocent unlike the elves.

Of course...

 

[kigmathelm]

Been reading a lot about how game is doing badly, etc... but I can tell you - these people are wrong. Game is doing great. 77k peak on Steam. Do you know how many people that is?

And lets be real, its not like BioWare is some huge studio like Bethesda or Ubisoft or Larian or people that made that monkey game. Also, it beat that new Jedi game at Steam peak players. And that game is STAR WARS.

My only complaint is that we need more games like this. So yeah, suck it chuds.

 

[Yosharian]

Been reading a lot about how game is doing badly, etc... but I can tell you - these people are wrong. Game is doing great. 77k peak on Steam. Do you know how many people that is?

And lets be real, its not like BioWare is some huge studio like Bethesda or Ubisoft or Larian or people that made that monkey game. Also, it beat that new Jedi game at Steam peak players. And that game is STAR WARS.

My only complaint is that we need more games like this. So yeah, suck it chuds.

 

[Basshead]

There was nothing more to say on what you wrote because it was literally nothing more than a word salad trying to sound profound. No substance to even debate. It was that retarded. Like most on here. Big board of dummies looking thinking they’re edgy for preaching Jewish religion and values as if that’s somehow edgy. It isn’t. It just shows how desperate and stupid you are.

You can't see the difference between another person's words and your interpretation of their words. That makes you an idiot. But if words about one issue trigger a number of others different thoughts in you, obviously buzzing under your skull, it makes you a schizo.

Not everyone, just quite a few. Most? Maybe. Just observations based on numerous interactions with retards here. Did it bother you personally? You’re probably one of these retards. Sorry, but maybe there’s still hope for you. Stop being an idiot

Take own pill.

Take own English class. Nearly your entire continent is basically an outpost of the US anyway. Might as well go all the way.

 

[bat_boro]

It’s so great and successful that 2 days after release they are saying no plans for more content. Just a reminder that andromeda had planned content that was scrapped, this has nothing planned from the get go

 

[Aemar]

My only complaint is that we need more games like this.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

What are these estimates of 6-9 year of development with 300 people working on it all the time. This game had max 2 years of full production.

 

[Morgoth]

This game isn't getting any post content, lmao. Great shit.

"No plans for downloadable expansions. The developer's full attention has now shifted entirely to the next Mass Effect as their current project."

BioWare Rules Out Any Dragon Age: The Veilguard DLC​

Now focused on Mass Effect

BioWare has revealed it won't be releasing any post-launch DLC or expansions for its new PS5 release Dragon Age: The Veilguard, as the developer has now shifted all its attention to the next Mass Effect game. During a deep dive interview with Rolling Stone, creative director John Epler confirmed the shift in focus.

"With Dragon Age: The Veilguard now complete, BioWare confirms that there are currently no plans for downloadable expansions. The developer's full attention has now shifted entirely to the next Mass Effect as their current project."

At launch, Dragon Age: The Veilguard is said to contain anywhere between 50 and 80 hours of RPG content, depending on how much time you invest into its optional elements and quests. Still, for there to already be confirmation of no DLC for a game like The Veilguard comes as a surprise. Besides ANTHEM, the vast majority of BioWare titles have received expansions in the months after release. Obviously, there'll still be patches and updates to fix any glitches or outstanding issues, but that appears to be the end of it for the studio.
The next Mass Effect instalment is what BioWare will focus on next, an RPG that will stick to its photorealistic graphics, as confirmed by project director Michael Gamble in a recent series of tweets. While Dragon Age: The Veilguard went for a more stylised look, Mass Effect will remain photorealistic for as long as Gamble is at the helm.

What was available on day one yesterday is now the complete Dragon Age: The Veilguard package, so it's a pretty good job BioWare has made a great RPG experience. "Its shift to crunchy action combat is an improvement over Inquisition's middle-of-the-road approach, and although the game feels a little light on meaningful player choice, the storytelling pulls no punches when it actually matters," we explained. "This is a gorgeous and gripping adventure, backed by a cast of endearing heroes and deliciously devious villains." We also have a Dragon Age: The Veilguard guide to help you get started with the RPG.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/11/bioware-rules-out-any-dragon-age-the-veilguard-dlc
https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...he-veilguard-john-epler-interview-1235147001/

Oh noes! No DLC, no microtransactions! You get an actual completed product. How horrible!