Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Ryzer]

4. Warriors get anime moves like summoning swords from the sky

Man, it looks like warriors really get the short end of the stick here. They removed greatswords, weapon selection is pathetic, and weapon attacks have no weight -- they replaced it all with stupid anime moves, shield throws, magical effects, dancing, prancing, and other retarded gimmicks. Seems to me that you can't even play a proper fighter -- you're basically some kind of faggy twinkle-toes mage by default.

Yet another (really big) reason not to play this joke of a game.

If Elden Ring managed to make a amazing spell and melee combat,

It's the same shit since Demon's Souls.

 

[Frozen]

Is it finally over?
Will we finally succeed in shutting them down?
I want these woke freaks to cry for losing their job and BioWare to be officially shut down.
Only reason why I follow this thread.

 

[kapisi]

Apparently, the most terrible Blight happens in veilguard, the darkest and most desperate and all. It's the mother of all blights, and some of them lasted for centuries!

The catch? Most of the fun stuff happens in the south, Denerim has fallen, Val Royeaux besieged! Ferelden and Orlais are barely holding back the tide

while you attend that critical pronoun lecture

 

[Tyranicon]

I noticed a lot of the redditor complaints about the game were how much the companions acted as a constant tutorial for the player. Basically walking guide posts tell them what to do.

What they wanted:

What they got:

 

[Frozen]

Apparently, the most terrible Blight happens in veilguard, the darkest and most desperate and all. It's the mother of all blights, and some of them lasted for centuries!

The catch? Most of the fun stuff happens in the south, Denerim has fallen, Val Royeaux besieged! Ferelden and Orlais are barely holding back the tide

while you attend that critical pronoun lecture

Are you making this shit up?

Blights supposed to happen a couple of centuries apart and there was not enough time since Origins blight.

Or did they retcon it, so it was not a blight lol (but how if Morrigan baby is an old god?)

I would expect it of them to nerf Origins because they hate that game.

 

[cioran]

They made half the women in this game look like dudes in make-up, with protruding jaws, big noses and brow ridges. Isabela looks like a drag queen now.

Wasting hundreds of millions of other people's money making a AAA RPG where every character is trans must be the ultimate power trip for queerosexual gendermancers.

Shill! I dare you to show me a real feminine character in the whole game.

 

[kapisi]

Apparently, the most terrible Blight happens in veilguard, the darkest and most desperate and all. It's the mother of all blights, and some of them lasted for centuries!

The catch? Most of the fun stuff happens in the south, Denerim has fallen, Val Royeaux besieged! Ferelden and Orlais are barely holding back the tide

while you attend that critical pronoun lecture

Are you making this shit up?

Blights supposed to happen a couple of centuries apart and there was not enough time since Origins blight.

Or did they retcon it, so it was not a blight lol (but how if Morrigan baby is an old god?)

I would expect it of them to nerf Origins because they hate that game.

Eh too long to explain, but you can see it on youtubes. The inquisitor is leading in the south, they bring him/her over for a quick exposition dump

 

[Cryomancer]

It's the same shit since Demon's Souls.

Same shit since Demon Souls > A game where spells and melee weapons have no impact, full of ballet animations, enemies posses no danger and are sponges.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

The ‘both sides’ faggots are coming out of the woodwork on this one

 

[shimadamada]

4. Warriors get anime moves like summoning swords from the sky

Man, it looks like warriors really get the short end of the stick here. They removed greatswords, weapon selection is pathetic, and weapon attacks have no weight -- they replaced it all with stupid anime moves, shield throws, magical effects, dancing, prancing, and other retarded gimmicks. Seems to me that you can't even play a proper fighter -- you're basically some kind of faggy twinkle-toes mage by default.

Yet another (really big) reason not to play this joke of a game.

If Elden Ring managed to make a amazing spell and melee combat,

It's the same shit since Demon's Souls.

It's really good shit.

 

[kapisi]

Some of fantasy writing highlights so far:

Oof
'kay, bye
Non-binary
Trans
Fire/under fire (no firearms)
It didn't make the print (no printing in the setting, char talks about a newspaper article)

Game is set 20 years after Origins, but some of the clothing is straight up 19th century. Like, daym, we were ghetto slumming in Origins

 

[Cryomancer]

72k, BG3 peak: 875k, Harry Potter: 910k, Wukong: 2.4m, Dragons Dogma 2: 230k, but sure, 72k is a huge success.

__________________________

ChatGPT. Input :

Lets suppose that I'm developing a game X.

A 3rd person action RPG with fully voiced dialog, around 60 hours of content, 300 employees in Canada, working full time for 6 years and part time for 3 years. How much it would cost?

OutPUT :

Total Estimated Cost: $357 million - $470 million​

chatGPT full answer

For a project of this scale, developing a high-quality 3rd-person action RPG with fully voiced dialogue, about 60 hours of content, and a large team, the cost would be substantial. Here’s an estimate based on each major expense category, factoring in Canadian industry standards.

1. Employee Salaries​

• Team Size: 300 employees
• Full-Time (6 years): This includes designers, developers, artists, writers, animators, QA, audio engineers, and project managers.
• Part-Time (3 years): For ongoing support and post-launch content.
• Average Salary per Employee in Canada: Around $75,000 - $120,000 annually, depending on role and experience.

Cost Calculation:

• Full-Time Period: $100,000 (average salary) × 300 employees × 6 years = $180 million
• Part-Time Period: $50,000 (half salary) × 300 employees × 3 years = $45 million

Total Salary Cost: $225 million

2. Voice Acting & Dialogue Production​

• Full Voice Acting: For a game with 60 hours of content, thousands of lines would need to be recorded.
• Voice Actor Costs: Rates vary widely, but a conservative estimate would be $500 per finished hour, and high-quality studios charge more for character variety and multiple takes.

Estimated Cost: $5 million - $15 million

3. Art and Animation​

• With a large game, asset production is a huge expense, covering everything from character models, environments, textures, and animations.
• For a high-quality RPG with modern graphics, the art and animation department could consume a significant part of the budget.

Estimated Cost: $50 million - $80 million

4. Audio Design and Music​

• Sound Design: Includes ambient sounds, action sequences, and environment-specific audio.
• Music Composition: Custom orchestration or licensed music for an epic soundtrack.

Estimated Cost: $5 million - $10 million

5. Licensing and Software​

• Game Engine Licensing: For large games, studios may use licenses for engines like Unreal Engine or develop proprietary engines.
• Software Licenses: Includes tools like Maya, Photoshop, and other specialized software.

Estimated Cost: $2 million - $5 million

6. Testing and Quality Assurance​

• For a 60-hour game, extensive testing across different platforms and scenarios is critical.
• QA Team Cost: Around $100,000 per QA employee annually, with dedicated testing teams for several years.

Estimated Cost: $10 million - $15 million

7. Marketing and Distribution​

• Marketing: Typically, AAA games spend close to 50-100% of their development budget on marketing, but here we’ll assume a more moderate figure given the dedicated audience for RPGs.
• Distribution Costs: Platform fees, physical media (if applicable), and launch costs.

Estimated Cost: $50 million - $100 million

8. Post-Launch Support and Updates​

• Content Updates: Patches, minor expansions, bug fixes, and community management.

Estimated Cost: $10 million - $20 million

Total Estimated Cost: $357 million - $470 million​

This places the project in the same realm as major AAA RPGs, given the large team size, extensive content, and high production values required for a fully voiced 3rd-person action RPG with 60 hours of gameplay.

 

[Larianshill]

Game is set 20 years after Origins, but some of the clothing is straight up 19th century. Like, daym, we were ghetto slumming in Origins

I've thought Inquisition's shit tier costume designs can't be topped (hello, Orlais), but here we are. Dragon Age 2, all things aside, at least looked like Dragon Age a little. Fenris aside.

 

[Sarkile]

Late Bloomer
I made my estimate based off of this:
https://livingcost.org/cost/edmonton/san-francisco

 

[Butter]

For a project of this scale, developing a high-quality 3rd-person action RPG with...

There's the issue. You should've specified that they hired all their designers from Fiverr.

 

[Brickfrog]

I think it's telling that they announced that there will be no DLC immediately after launch. It indicates that even before launch, they didn't think putting more resources into this title would be a sound investment. I wonder if they calculate that even DLC revenue wont be able to put a significant dent in the enormous preproduction expenses that they had to eat. We know for sure that they determined its a better use of their money to move away from DAV and into ME5 before the launch date, though.

 

[Larianshill]

I think it's telling that they announced that there will be no DLC immediately after launch

In case of Andromeda, they've waited, didn't they? It wasn't right away.

 

[Skinwalker]

Here's to hoping Failguard fails so hard, Biowhore will have to cancel Ass Effect 5 and finally disband the studio.

 

[Brickfrog]

I think it's telling that they announced that there will be no DLC immediately after launch

In case of Andromeda, they've waited, didn't they? It wasn't right away.

Man I don't even remember what I had for breakfast two days ago. The 2017 Bioware DLC announcement schedule is gonna be a little beyond me.

 

[moon knight]

Bioware has won.

 

[Svetovid]

I sailed the high seas and... troon shit aside, this is soulless slop made by submedocrities. I doubt that even 14yo kiddies would find this amusing. Uninstalled after 30 minutes.

 

[Brickfrog]

Bioware isn't dead yet. It doesn't look like Veilguard bombed all that hard so far. Even if it has, it's very unclear if that would cause EA to pull the plug on ME5. They know that franchise still has some milk left.

 

[Warrax]

After BG3, all these public game studios are going to try to distill what made it successful into a simple formula they can rinse and repeat for a quick buck.

In the best case scenario the failure of Veilguard will prove the magic sauce wasn't superficial gratuitous pandering to LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ++; dogma.

 

[BrotherFrank]

Apparently, the most terrible Blight happens in veilguard, the darkest and most desperate and all. It's the mother of all blights, and some of them lasted for centuries!

The catch? Most of the fun stuff happens in the south, Denerim has fallen, Val Royeaux besieged! Ferelden and Orlais are barely holding back the tide

while you attend that critical pronoun lecture

This makes me rage more then it should, like it's a direct attack on dragon age origin fans.

So remember the main city of origins you spent a lot of time in and where the finale took place? Well lulz it got razed OFFSCREEN and your pc from origins did nothing and probably got steamrolled and is a cuck in general, that'll teach you to be a fan of the series!

And if denerim fell, then really it's likely all of ferelden is fucked since that's how it was portrayed in origins, not that the hack writers who by their own admission didn't even play origins would know.

 

[Larianshill]

Apparently, the most terrible Blight happens in veilguard, the darkest and most desperate and all. It's the mother of all blights, and some of them lasted for centuries!

The catch? Most of the fun stuff happens in the south, Denerim has fallen, Val Royeaux besieged! Ferelden and Orlais are barely holding back the tide

while you attend that critical pronoun lecture

This makes me rage more then it should, like it's a direct attack on dragon age origin fans.

So remember the main city of origins you spent a lot of time in and where the finale took place? Well lulz it got razed OFFSCREEN and your pc from origins did nothing and probably got steamrolled and is a cuck in general, that'll teach you to be a fan of the series!

Have you heard about the Loghain stuff yet?