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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Drowed

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At this point, I would say that regardless of anything else, it is undeniable that the game will sell. Dragon Age is a franchise that is too famous and the advertising was too big for it not to have a minimally acceptable performance. The bigger question is two other points.

First, whether sales will be enough to recoup all the investment in the game. After all, it was in development hell for years and Bioware has a lot to recover here. And second, whether this game won't be the final nail in the coffin of the franchise, something like The Last Jedi in Star Wars. Fame and inertia can carry a franchise forward, but only to a certain point, if the dissatisfaction is too great, you may have passed the point of no return. Something very similar is happening with Bethesda, Starfield had a lukewarm reception and interest in their next games seems much weaker.

Given that Bioware comes from a series of recent failures, Veilguard doesn't just need to be a success, it needs to be a huge success. I don't know if it will be enough. In addition, the game can (and possibly will) start with strong sales, but it is also necessary to know how long its legs will be. From the reaction I'm seeing, I feel that after the initial sales explosion, the amount will drop very quickly in the following weeks. But who knows.
 

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"I don't feel comfortable writing RPG's anymore" what a fuckin pussy man. Imagine you are brain wormed like this.
Reading that more charitably, it seems he's saying that he doesn't want to egostroke players, but that's what's required to be an RPG writer.

Or more to the point: "I have better things to do than to give xbros verbal reach arounds".
 

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I've said this before: unless you are getting sales numbers from a reputable third-party (and when it comes to video games in the US, there is basically one company that actually has the data, and that is Circana), or unless it is reported in official financial documents like quarterly/annual reports, YOU SIMPLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS A GAME HAS SOLD.

Statista, Steam (or SteamDB), VG Chartz, etc., these are all notoriously unreliable. People who track the video game industry for a living do not use these sources because they are untrustworthy. Nobody is going to know how many copies this game has sold until the nerds have started crunching the numbers from the various points-of-sale. A good rule of thumb, however, is that if the company (in this case EA) doesn't announce the number after the first few weeks, it is because the number is not great. It could be "fine" or "enough" but no company is going lead with their chin and report a low purchase rate.

The only thing you can do is wait. And read the user reviews and have a chuckle.

I think it's going to do strong numbers out of the gate. Like I said, there will almost surely be some form of "strongest release ever" to go along with more "Bioware is back!" headlines. I'd also expect a "we're very pleased with the performance of Veilguard," that one is almost inevitable. We'll have our memes and glorious cringe clips, Biodrones will get to escape their miserable lives for a while, and EA will rake in the sheckels.

One outstanding question, of course - a lot of people are going to buy it in order to review bomb and refund. The only thing of any meaningful value to watch will be what EA says on calls with shareholders.

But I still think it's going to do fine and Bioware is going to do fine - they're still the shepard (hur) of some very valuable IPs. And with standards as low as the Veilguard audience, would you really want to lose access to those people? It's pretty clear the play, and I think it's a smart one - use this game to soak the diehards while roping in the kiddies, and once you've got that audience captured, start putting the squeeze on - mobile spinoffs, live service, gacha. They got spooked because they know they're on thin ice, plus the gullible younger kids have no idea what a Dragon Age is, but I'd put good money that's the long term plan.

These people will obviously buy anything. Why would you not want to wring every dime from them? You think these people won't throw giant gobs of cash at the most garish possible cosmetics? The more money this game makes the more certain a live service soaking is going to be in the works, and no one will laugh harder than me when EA starts raking in millions on 100 dollar Solas skins.
Yeah, I can see them doing a "Sims 4" on this one.
 

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How long will it stay at #2 position? Before Monday, it will fall from TOP10. Mark my words

User score: in 60s or lower. Catastrophic.

END OF BIOWARE
 
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Final boss + bad ending

That's actually a very cool ending, and Solas' character seems faithful to what we've seen before. Love that oath of loyalty at the start, and the honest "sorry for this final betrayal" at the end.
Very impressed with this video, much higher quality than the other clips I've seen of the game.

Even critical reviews have said that the ending is pretty good. Problem is the 50 some odd hours between you and it.
 

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The game will definitely sell. There's a very vocal and somewhat large crowd of terminally online morons whose only concern with an RPG is obsessively thirsting over 'safe horny' characters that are conveniently designed to be off-putting to anyone who likes conventional beauty and romance whilst appealing directly to those who feel compelled to broadcast their every fetish in public, no matter how revolting it may be. A lot of BG3's success can be attributed to that crowd, unfortunately.

At the same time, this particular game being relentlessly ridiculed and will continue to be relentlessly ridiculed. A lot more people are waking up to the obvious grifts and lies surrounding these games. The average fantasy fan wants stuff like Dragon Age: Origins, The Witcher 3, Elden Ring and so on. Decent to great games with solid voice acting, grit, nuance and memorable music.

It's not going to flop as hard as Concord, Forspoken or Dustborn but it likely won't meet the lofty sales expectations due to being so heavily compromised its obvious at a glance. That said, I fully expect it to be propped up at gaming award shows.
 

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The Wall

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Less then 1h before CRINGE GATES open. Are you ready, chuds! Of course you are, you were born for this fight! Tranny derpspawn are coming. Sharpen your keyboards! Awake Great Bigots inside of you. AAND TRIGGER THEM TO DEATH! <1H
:whiteknight::terminate::buildawall:
 

Old Hans

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Final boss + bad ending

That's actually a very cool ending, and Solas' character seems faithful to what we've seen before. Love that oath of loyalty at the start, and the honest "sorry for this final betrayal" at the end.
Very impressed with this video, much higher quality than the other clips I've seen of the game.

thats what skillup review said. the last 2 hours were really good, and wondered why the rest of the game couldnt have been like that
 

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At a glance the production values are there. Will that be enough to pull in the normies?
If this game is a success we will have another decade of decline for the RPG genre, as we already had in the '00s.

It will inevitably sell during the weekend, maybe for some days in the following week too. But there is just so many wrong things in this game, even for casual people, to sell well. Word of mouth will hurt this game instead of elevating it now that EA cant take down videos and images around social media claiming copyright infringement. I cant think of many people that would be ok with a lot of psychotic modern day aspects of this game.
 

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