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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Supermedo

Augur
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LMAO, I can't argue with the second picture and I didn't know about it but the first one is just single image and they look like skinny bikini models, isn't one of the defining characteristic of barbarian means being tall and muscular with broadswoard or battelaxe for most people and not pin up models.

Yeah, the man barb. The women were always skimpy.
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Huh, well in my mind is similar to the picture that MerchantKing shared, being skimpy is fine I meant lacks of muscle, like no body called Amiri trans in Kingmaker and I think Karlach design that got shipped in the game looks cool and her face is very obviously feminine
 

Semiurge

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Dragon Age and many of the current entertainment media pushing LGBTQ+ and woke narratives doesn't seem to care much about financial loss. From what I can see it seems they will push this agenda no matter what. Getting funding from God knows where.

And there might be a simple reason.

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It's basically Friedrich's dialectic process. They are pushing these degenerate ideas as far as they can. When there is enough backlash they town it down a bit. Sudddenly, the degeneracy in games like Baldurs Gate 3 doesn't seem so bad right?

So let's say everything goes back to "normal". That normal will be based on people exposed to bear sex, breast scars and whatever fucked up ideas these weirdo's have about entertainment.

So in the next round (10 years from now) they start implementing some MAP RPG elements. And everyone looses their minds. Suddenly the Woke garbage in games like Veilguard doesn't seem so bad right?

Sure, the games suck. But that is not the point. It's about pushing boundaries. Exposing you to ideas to sanitize you.

Three steps forward, one step backwards...



What the hell is that gibberish? I thought maybe they were the player's own notes at first, but why on earth would you need a chance to write notes in this?
 

Rhobar121

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The fact that a new title earns less than a game that's over a year old is pretty pathetic.
I don't believe that it's any better on other platforms.
Even if EA doesn't close Bioware, they'll still have to find new employees after 40% hang themselves.
 

Lacrymas

Arcane
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Pathfinder: Wrath
The fact that a new title earns less than a game that's over a year old is pretty pathetic.
I don't believe that it's any better on other platforms.
Even if EA doesn't close Bioware, they'll still have to find new employees after 40% hang themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if Swen was intently looking into how this game performs so he could slap a -20% on BG3 just to fuck with Bioware and get sales from their disappointed customers. That's what I would do.
 

Tyranicon

A Memory of Eternity
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I wouldn't be surprised if Swen was intently looking into how this game performs so he could slap a -20% on BG3 just to fuck with Bioware and get sales from their disappointed customers. That's what I would do.

Yeah, does seem like a strange coincidence to have a sale right after a rival game launches.

Holy hell, there are fanfics written by teenagers that are less cringeworthy than this.

This is the fanfic bro.
 

Naraya

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Someone posted earlier a screen of PS5 sales. Nobody will convince me that game discounted by 10%+ FIVE DAYS after its launch can be considered a success in any way, shape of form.
 

Rhobar121

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The fact that a new title earns less than a game that's over a year old is pretty pathetic.
I don't believe that it's any better on other platforms.
Even if EA doesn't close Bioware, they'll still have to find new employees after 40% hang themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised if Swen was intently looking into how this game performs so he could slap a -20% on BG3 just to fuck with Bioware and get sales from their disappointed customers. That's what I would do.
BG3 never got any DLC to boost sales.
You would think that by now most people who were going to buy the game would have already done so, still if -20% is enough to beat the new release in revenue then there is no way for the sales to be good.
I won't believe any theories that most people bought it in the EA app or played it as part of a subscription.
The game is dead and so is Bioware.
 

Caim

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Lacrymas

Arcane
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Pathfinder: Wrath
BG3 never got any DLC to boost sales.
You would think that by now most people who were going to buy the game would have already done so, still if -20% is enough to beat the new release in revenue then there is no way for the sales to be good.
I won't believe any theories that most people bought it in the EA app or played it as part of a subscription.
The game is dead and so is Bioware.
It's probably from new people who didn't have an interest in it or haven't even heard of BG3 but are Bioware fans. After being rightfully disappointed with this dumpster fire, they googled "good RPG games" and got BG3 as a top result. As for whether Bioware is dead, not yet. They still have Mass Effect to fuck up beyond recognition and tank the studio and both their IPs.
 

Warrax

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This Bioware is what happens when the few people with vision leave an organization and its corpse continues to operate by sheer momentum and artificial shock applied by investors.
 

Rhobar121

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This Bioware is what happens when the few people with vision leave an organization and its corpse continues to operate by sheer momentum and artificial shock applied by investors.
I'd say it's a result of not firing the entire Bioware management after the recent failures.
Ordinary workers, even if they were completely proud of the shit they produced, would have absolutely nothing to say if someone competent was in charge.
Even if we ignore the entire woke aspect of this game, the game would not become much better.
 

Warrax

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This Bioware is what happens when the few people with vision leave an organization and its corpse continues to operate by sheer momentum and artificial shock applied by investors.
I'd say it's a result of not firing the entire Bioware management after the recent failures.
Ordinary workers, even if they were completely proud of the shit they produced, would have absolutely nothing to say if someone competent was in charge.
Even if we ignore the entire woke aspect of this game, the game would not become much better.

Who has to do this firing? The fish is rotten from the head down. There is a central EA who keeps pressuring the company to have DEI and be more "mainstream". A clueless EA manager with an MBA who hires incompetent people. Delusional lead writer and director with unbelievably stupid ideas. Everyone in a leadership position in the entire chain is incompetent.
 

babayaga

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What I know from women that read yaoi is that they self insert as one of the men. There is always the guy that takes it after all.
Do you self insert yourself as one of the lesbians?
Only insofar as fucking a woman is involved. And I am "the lesbian" with a dick, if you catch my drift. :smug: Also, you're clearly no man (or you're simply gay), since the concept of being attracted to a female form (or multiple female forms, in this case) is alien to you.
Did you know that most "straight" women actually prefer watching lesbian porn? Food for thought.
Diagnose me as whatever you want, I am just saying that I don't think that playing as a female character while romancing a dude is gay as long as you are not self inserting. If you are then you are a troon and/or a fag.
In fact I think that watching lesbian porn excessively can lead to troon corruption especially for teen boys.
 

Padzi

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I haven't played Veilguard, but the algorithm keeps bombarding me with spoilers, and I've already seen some dialogues and scenes from various points of the story.It's a shame that the writing at Bioware doesn't age along with their fanbase. If I were 20 years younger, MAYBE I would enjoy these dialogues. But now I'm too old for this shit, and all I feel is second-hand embarrassment and cringe.

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Warrax

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I haven't played Veilguard, but the algorithm keeps bombarding me with spoilers, and I've already seen some dialogues and scenes from various points of the story.It's a shame that the writing at Bioware doesn't age along with their fanbase. If I were 20 years younger, MAYBE I would enjoy these dialogues. But now I'm too old for this shit, and all I feel is second-hand embarrassment and cringe.
Kids prefer content that is a bit more mature than they themselves are, because they are growing in that direction. They can understand and appreciate things at a higher level than they can express.

The conversation level in this game is fit for pre-school children, except the subject matter is not.

Their "modern audience" is imaginary, much like their gender identity.
 
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Dragon Age and many of the current entertainment media pushing LGBTQ+ and woke narratives doesn't seem to care much about financial loss. From what I can see it seems they will push this agenda no matter what. Getting funding from God knows where.

And there might be a simple reason.

iqHgEmv.jpeg



It's basically Friedrich's dialectic process. They are pushing these degenerate ideas as far as they can. When there is enough backlash they town it down a bit. Sudddenly, the degeneracy in games like Baldurs Gate 3 doesn't seem so bad right?

So let's say everything goes back to "normal". That normal will be based on people exposed to bear sex, breast scars and whatever fucked up ideas these weirdo's have about entertainment.

So in the next round (10 years from now) they start implementing some MAP RPG elements. And everyone looses their minds. Suddenly the Woke garbage in games like Veilguard doesn't seem so bad right?

Sure, the games suck. But that is not the point. It's about pushing boundaries. Exposing you to ideas to sanitize you.
You are exactly right.

The reason why we see so much of this bullshit wokeness lately is because the big AAA media companies, gaming, film, etc, are hemorriging money. This started years ago. In order for them to continue they need big investment money. The guys who OWN investment are jewish perverts. The same kinds that hung out with Epstein (Mossad) and Diddy (also Mossad). So these demons promise big money to these companies ONLY IF they promise to inject their ESG rated content into their media.

Blackrock was the biggest funder of Veilguard. It is owned by Larry Fink, a Jew.

It's a vicious cycle now. They are still losing money from the public, but can still stay afloat from money from the investment firms who require this stuff gets put in. These investment firms get paid via the Federal Reserve money printing to keep them going because these firms have tentacles into the lobbyists who get kickbacks from all Congressional spending bills.

That's how it is literally working right now.

Pretty sure that EA is aware that a less woke Dragon Age would probably move a couple million more units, inasmuch as Warner Bros. knows a Harry Potter RPG will sell tens of millions of units despite "trans hate", but EA has franchises like FIFA, Madden, Need for Speed, and the Sims DLCs, they're not exactly hurting for one or two million more units on an unimportant franchise from (in their portfolio) a mid-tier studio.

Problem is, their top franchises (with one or two exceptions) appeal to *toxic dudebro mentality*. The logic that went into Dragon Age was probably along the lines of:

(a) let's give them a project to make the development team happy, like Obsidain did when they let Josh Sawyer make Pentiment. That way if we bring the bullshit hammer down on Mass Effect they can't complain.

(b) let's loudly assert to the public we're not just a toxic dudebro company

(c) Dragon Age is just there to develop the tech for the next Mass Effect game, and Mass Effect is the only valuable Bioware IP, so who even cares anyway?

While I'm sure in spite of all that EA hoped Veilguard would do a bit better, a few million units lost under this logic is just the cost of doing business.
 

Dvd22

Literate
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They still have Mass Effect to fuck up beyond recognition and tank the studio and both their IPs.

Fuck up Mass Effect again you mean? Remember Andromeda... It will be fun to compare the new Mass Effect with it and see if they manage to reach new lows.
 
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So I finally saw this video that's been making the rounds:



God forgive me for what I'm about to say, but Owlcat has better writing.

My god, that's brutal. Not just the dialogue, look at Harding's face! Unacceptably lazy animation work.

Every compilation video I see makes the dialogue seem worse than the last. The content and writing aren't even the biggest issues; the delivery is almost universally dogshit with Jin Maley's performance as Taash standing out as particularly flat. Every companion seems to oscillate between adorkable nerd and petulant teenager, genuinely awful.

If you told me every dialogue scene in Veilguard was scripted, animated and delivered by generative A.I. without any human QC I'd believe you. It's that uncanny and generic.
 

babayaga

Educated
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Messages
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Location
Innawoods
I haven't played Veilguard, but the algorithm keeps bombarding me with spoilers, and I've already seen some dialogues and scenes from various points of the story.It's a shame that the writing at Bioware doesn't age along with their fanbase. If I were 20 years younger, MAYBE I would enjoy these dialogues. But now I'm too old for this shit, and all I feel is second-hand embarrassment and cringe.
Kids prefer content that is a bit more mature than they themselves are, because they are growing in that direction. They can understand and appreciate things at a higher level than they can express.

The conversation level in this game is fit for pre-school children, except the subject matter is not.

Their "modern audience" is imaginary, much like their gender identity.
Yes, and underdeveloped Californian millennials are forever stuck in preschool age and still see themselves as the revolutionary generation that will show it to the boomers soon but in reality, they are the establishment now and everything is worse than ever. They are dried up middle aged losers that replaced having a kid with a dog/cat and continously degenerate further into weirder kinks cos of boredom and nihilism.
 

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