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Dragon's Dogma II - "They’re masterworks, all – you can’t go wrong"

Zed Duke of Banville

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So it is basically "oblivion, but with a party of 4".

Don't be silly. DD isn't nearly as funny as Oblivion.
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cyborgboy95

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https://www.ign.com/articles/dragon...ains-why-less-fast-travel-can-be-a-good-thing

DRAGON'S DOGMA 2

Dragon’s Dogma 2 Director Explains Why Less Fast Travel Can be a Good Thing​

“Travel is boring? … It’s only an issue because your game is boring.”​





Fast travel is a contentious issue within open world games. Make it too easy, and you risk trivializing the world; make it too hard, and players may find travel tedious. Weighing in on the debate, Dragon’s Dogma 2 director Hideaki Itsuno explained why he is keen to avoid the former, preferring that players travel normally and experience the world around them.

“Just give it a try. Travel is boring? That's not true. It's only an issue because your game is boring. All you have to do is make travel fun,” Itsuno told IGN in a new interview, part of our the exclusive month-long IGN First coverage of Dragon’s Dogma 2. “That's why you place things in the right location for players to discover, or come up with enemy appearance methods that create different experiences each time, or force players into blind situations where they don't know whether it's safe or not ten meters in front of them.”
You never know what you're doing to run into in Dragon's Dogma 2.YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO RUN INTO IN DRAGON'S DOGMA 2.
“We've put a lot of work into designing a game where you can stumble across someone and something will happen, so while it's fine if it does have fast travel, we decided to design the kind of map where players will make the decision for themselves to travel by bike or on foot in order to enjoy the journey.”
Dragon's Dogma 2 and its predecessor are unique in that they don't allow unrestricted fast travel. Both games require expensive and rare Ferrystones to teleport to designated Port Crystals. Dragon's Dogma 2 also adds Oxcarts that allow travel only along specific paths, with the caveat that you may be ambushed along those routes.
In adding the Oxcarts, Itsuno says the goal wasn’t to make a “simple method of safe transportation.” Instead, he sees it as an additive way to build out Dragon’s Dogma 2’s world.
Travel is boring? That's not true. It's only an issue because your game is boring


“While riding one, you might find the path blocked by goblins and have no choice but to get off and join the battle. Then as you do, a Griffin might swoop in and destroy the entire cart with one blow, forcing you to walk the rest of the way while cursing its name,” Itsuno explains. “But none of that has been set up by us in advance. Instead, Griffins naturally have an inclination toward attacking cows they discover as they move, and these pieces all just happen to work together to naturally create the situation. So yes, an oxcart ride in this world may be cheap, but a lot can come as a result of that cheapness. I think that's the kind of world we've managed to create.”
Kento Kinoshita, who was a key developer of the original Dragon's Dogma, throws out a few more examples designed to reveal how reactive the sequel’s world can be. “Say you were trying to cross a bridge, but some goblin went and destroyed it. So then you decide to walk along a different path, only to run into a peddler who's on some task who you can buy from, or save, or who has a camp where you can regroup. When I say the game gives players a lot of space to think for themselves, this is what I mean.”
Fast travel has been criticized in other games for essentially turning open worlds into a series of loading screens. As a result, some games have sought to approach the feature differently, or even do away with it entirely only to bring it back for a sequel. Itsuno does say that he ultimately likes fast travel as a feature, saying “it’s convenient and it’s good.” However, he also feels that distance is an important part of Dragon’s Dogma 2, which is why the team ultimately opted to restrict fast travel.

Kinoshita adds, “I guess we wanted there to be a cost to shortening a long distance. In a way, that strongly mirrors the real world too. There are a lot of rules in real life that are needed to make a system possible, and ignoring those rules makes things seem less realistic, or less valuable.”
 

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https://www.ign.com/articles/dragon...ains-why-less-fast-travel-can-be-a-good-thing

DRAGON'S DOGMA 2

Dragon’s Dogma 2 Director Explains Why Less Fast Travel Can be a Good Thing​

“Travel is boring? … It’s only an issue because your game is boring.”​





Fast travel is a contentious issue within open world games. Make it too easy, and you risk trivializing the world; make it too hard, and players may find travel tedious. Weighing in on the debate, Dragon’s Dogma 2 director Hideaki Itsuno explained why he is keen to avoid the former, preferring that players travel normally and experience the world around them.

“Just give it a try. Travel is boring? That's not true. It's only an issue because your game is boring. All you have to do is make travel fun,” Itsuno told IGN in a new interview, part of our the exclusive month-long IGN First coverage of Dragon’s Dogma 2. “That's why you place things in the right location for players to discover, or come up with enemy appearance methods that create different experiences each time, or force players into blind situations where they don't know whether it's safe or not ten meters in front of them.”
You never know what you're doing to run into in Dragon's Dogma 2.'re doing to run into in Dragon's Dogma 2.YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO RUN INTO IN DRAGON'S DOGMA 2.
“We've put a lot of work into designing a game where you can stumble across someone and something will happen, so while it's fine if it does have fast travel, we decided to design the kind of map where players will make the decision for themselves to travel by bike or on foot in order to enjoy the journey.”
Dragon's Dogma 2 and its predecessor are unique in that they don't allow unrestricted fast travel. Both games require expensive and rare Ferrystones to teleport to designated Port Crystals. Dragon's Dogma 2 also adds Oxcarts that allow travel only along specific paths, with the caveat that you may be ambushed along those routes.
In adding the Oxcarts, Itsuno says the goal wasn’t to make a “simple method of safe transportation.” Instead, he sees it as an additive way to build out Dragon’s Dogma 2’s world.
Travel is boring? That's not true. It's only an issue because your game is boring


“While riding one, you might find the path blocked by goblins and have no choice but to get off and join the battle. Then as you do, a Griffin might swoop in and destroy the entire cart with one blow, forcing you to walk the rest of the way while cursing its name,” Itsuno explains. “But none of that has been set up by us in advance. Instead, Griffins naturally have an inclination toward attacking cows they discover as they move, and these pieces all just happen to work together to naturally create the situation. So yes, an oxcart ride in this world may be cheap, but a lot can come as a result of that cheapness. I think that's the kind of world we've managed to create.”
Kento Kinoshita, who was a key developer of the original Dragon's Dogma, throws out a few more examples designed to reveal how reactive the sequel’s world can be. “Say you were trying to cross a bridge, but some goblin went and destroyed it. So then you decide to walk along a different path, only to run into a peddler who's on some task who you can buy from, or save, or who has a camp where you can regroup. When I say the game gives players a lot of space to think for themselves, this is what I mean.”
Fast travel has been criticized in other games for essentially turning open worlds into a series of loading screens. As a result, some games have sought to approach the feature differently, or even do away with it entirely only to bring it back for a sequel. Itsuno does say that he ultimately likes fast travel as a feature, saying “it’s convenient and it’s good.” However, he also feels that distance is an important part of Dragon’s Dogma 2, which is why the team ultimately opted to restrict fast travel.

Kinoshita adds, “I guess we wanted there to be a cost to shortening a long distance. In a way, that strongly mirrors the real world too. There are a lot of rules in real life that are needed to make a system possible, and ignoring those rules makes things seem less realistic, or less valuable.”
Ah yes I love wasting hours of my life walking on big empty areas that I already explored before.



Just another reason to not buy this game.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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Ah yes I love wasting hours of my life walking on big empty areas that I already explored before.

Just another reason to not buy this game.
It's true. DD1 was one of the games where I didn't mind running on foot from one location to the next.
It's only fun the first time.
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen had five portable portcrystals, plus a permanent portcrystal in Gran Soren (and another at Bitterblack Isle), precisely to allow the player to avoid repetitively journeying to the same location, though fast travel would never be an option for the first time. It seems that the sequel also offers a fast travel option, though we'll have to wait and see exactly how it operates.
 
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It’s not totally true that you don’t recruit story NPCs. In the first game the first NPC follower you get is a story related character. And it seems a similar kind of character is in this too. But beyond that one character in Dragon’s Dogma, you don’t get any other story related NPC followers.

It's true. DD1 was one of the games where I didn't mind running on foot from one location to the next.

Dragon’s Dogma is one of the few games where it feels like you actually have to think about traveling so not to get stuck in certain places at night while at lower levels. It reminds me somewhat of Capcom’s own Dead Rising to a degree, they weren’t made by the same teams, but I do wonder if it may have been an influence.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I hope they reduce the endgame grind of high-end gear. BBI was great but in most recent playtrough i just got sick finding equipments that can be used for my character and build i ended up beating daimon twice, and calls it a day.
 

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Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition comes to PC on March 21st. I love Horizon. Everytime they release a game, the game of the year releases around the same time.

Dragon's Dogma 2 releases the day after... GOTY confirmed?
 

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so is Dragons Dogma 2 a reboot of first game? it looks very similar.


so is Dragons Dogma 2 a reboot of first game? it looks very similar.

A spiritual reboot I suppose?
It's being marketed as 'Dragon's dogma but with all the shit we didn't have time to finish the first time' which more or less is what a lot of fans of the original wanted from a sequel in the first place

It's neither a reboot, nor a remake. It's just the second Dragon's Dogma game - if you played the first, then you know what to expect with this one. You had Pawns and other people tell you that there were other worlds out there, all with their own Arisen and Senechals and so on. This new game just happens to take place in one of those worlds.

Or I could be proven wrong and this is just one of the many cycles in the game - which would fit the theme of the eternal return.
 

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