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ELEX RELEASE THREAD

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by Raapys, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Renevent Arbiter

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    How many of you are finished with the game yet? I'm about 35 hours in and think I am pretty close to finishing it. Made top rank for Clerics, completed most of the side quests (that I cared about at least), have 2 converters left to power down, met my ice daddy, and did the big assault mission as well.

    As far as my character goes I finally chose on a build which was using PSI for groups and went ranged for more single target damage. Using the Redeemer unique plasma rifle (100 dmg) and it's pretty freaking sick. I can take out a Cyclops in like 10-15 shots. Love PB games but it's crazy how fast you go from "can't kill a turkey" to "destroyer of entire armies" lol. I don't mean how long it takes to get to that point, what I mean is the window in which that change takes place, there's no gradual build up and as soon as I got blackhole nothing could mess with me.
     
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  2. Murk Arcane

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    I said much earlier, but if you want to know whether or not you should play Elex, then answer yourself this question "Do you think Gothic 3 would have been good if it wasn't a rushed incomplete mess?" and that basically gives you your answer. The game is closest to it, in scope scale and style -- to how little C&C and interconnectivity between quests/plots there are. The trade off is immensely more freedom and exploration with lots of no explanation places that tell their own little story through what you see and do.

    This game never once gave me G1/2 or R1 vibes, those three games are much more focused, compact, and dense in their content. Elex is definitely G3 done "right". I only hope now that they refined this particular formula, they can integrate the two to give us a game with greater scope but the same quality and density of content as G2.

    One can dream /single tear
     
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  3. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The thing is, if they make Elex 2, I think it's much more probable that they work off this G3 formula as a baseline rather than go for the kind of density of content & sparsity of resources you see in G1/2/R1. I would expect Elex 2 at best to be an improved E1 featuring, say, better balanced character skills/attributes, and making better use of the many different kinds of factions and weapons they've already put into the game, and so on.
     
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  4. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    We already know that they are making an ELEX 2 so it's not a case of if.
     
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  5. Zerth Learned

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    I think you should wait up until another major update for PC is released. Elex is certainly playable, but there are things that needs fixin'. Like hostile major factions charging u a fine for killing a member or inconsistent reactivity.

    I've only finished the game once several days ago, only 60 hours and rushed endgame; thus my appreciation is a bit shallow and not entirely accurate. In a nutshell, Is perhaps one of the most ambitious PB game so far, besides Gothic 3 (but better), but that also means It has the inherent problems when you aren't used to bite more than you can chew. It has a bigger scope, worldmap and handles the featured conflict at a greater scale than any other gothic game. But given its size not everything is consistently good. Let's see:

    - Exploration is not always rewarding.

    U see, world map is huge, and bioma offers a great deal of variety across region and landscape really looks different given a certain time of the day. Plus it's amusing to fly around with jetpack, since opens up a wide range of possibilities and streamline the mandatory early PB stage where you have to run away like a bitch from everything that smells remotely like danger.
    But since there's so much stuff you'll not always find something worth the time or resources u spent after thoroughly exploring ruins/ wreckages/ monster's dens etc. Sometimes u will find something awesome or at least useful, but often you'll stumble across with nothing but crap alongside kinda uninteresting exposure in form of audio records from ppl during the time happened soon after meteor impact, aka The old world. Also, Ignadon and Xacor regions are kinda meh, despite being crowded with the strongest game's mobs ..

    - Combat mechanics have decent ideas, but is overall inferior to Risen 1.

    You can only backstep in order to dodge without rolling. You can't unlock further combos. No weapon specialization but perks that give flat increase of damage. There are exploits like the insta knockdown cheese with flamethrower, black hole psi spell, grenades and explosive plasma projectile. But you have a neat combo meter that increases damage if you properly build up and keep the melee combo momentum and u can use jetpack offensively like flyin' and shooting at same and an unlockable fallin' attack.

    - Inconsistency in some Quests.

    There are quests that have great outcomes and coherent reactivity. But there are some whose outcome doesn't make sense fot what the NPC is tellin' you. Perhaps bad translation has part of the blame there. The other is, well, they felt kinda unfinished and/or rushed.
     
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  6. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    the tardation of this main quest is quicky spiralling out of control hory shiet
     
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  7. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Shut up and bring me MORE RAIDER PARTS

    all while learning about your tragic past.
     
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  8. Zerth Learned

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    About time you decided to progress further main quest. U are going to regret it tho.
     
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  9. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    ORION



    hey kallax led me into a trap wtf old man

    o maybe i had bad information i thought it was reliable

    and who gave you dis information

    kallax

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Look its not his fault, Kallax clearly done a Miltiades on him and you are just the bystander
     
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  11. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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  12. Lahey Laheyist Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Hurry up and finish. I've been edging for weeks and need your reaction to the shitty ending to climax.
     
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  13. Shadenuat Arcane

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    Nasty romance is better. It's like a battle who's more an autist.
     
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  14. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    You need to see Nasty's next. It's hilarious.
     
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  15. Zerth Learned

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    Nasty: WHAT U REALLY WANT? CIS PIGS ONLY WANT ME TO REACH MY BROTHER AND AS FUCK TROPHY.
    Jax: I need u as an ally for the upcoming battle agains the hybrid and save magalan.
    Nasty: WHAT U REALLY WANT.
    Jax: Fuck it everything I WANT UR ASS.
    Nasty: I WANT TO FUCK NOW!

    Unfortunately, choosing to that dialogue option understandably cockblocks Caja from any romance opportunity. So I don't know How It went with her. How's it?
     
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  16. Lahey Laheyist Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Show Spoiler
     
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  17. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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  18. Shadenuat Arcane

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    commander dork 1/1
    commander hork 0/1
    commander snork 0/1
    commander kek 1/1
    comannder-sdfdshfj
     
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  19. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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    Caja is a true friend.
     
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  20. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Finished.

    Lawnmowed everything there was to lawnmow, p. much 100%'d the gaem I'm p. sure. Save game tells me I spent 69 hours on it, but I spent at least 15 more on reloading and idling (got the 80h cheevo at 65 save time).

    And yet after all these 80+ hours, my impression is mostly the same as after 20. ELEX is the best shit game I've ever played :shittydog:

    Obligatory endgame charsheet screenie:

    [​IMG]

    Without gulping down elex pots en masse, the game is really stingy with points. The above are actually STR 55 and DEX 64, I just have +10 ring and ammy. For most of the endgame I tried to hog enough points to catapult me to 85 DEX and get ranged waffen III, but I could never get there. Only after I killed the fucking final boss and levelled up again would the 110 I have now in the pic suffice.



    Also I was considering trying a 2nd turbo-playthrough with a full ELEX'd up outlaw, but now I'm not so sure whether it's even much necessary. And if anything, I need some ELEX detox anyway.

    So in other words, expect revioo soon :shittydog:
     
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  21. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    How many large gems you were able to "craft" ? I
     
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  22. Shadenuat Arcane

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    You need 90 CON to get 3 points in Heavy Weapons. Think about it for a sec.

    I was able to get both ranged and melee at tier 3 during endgame on my no-elex viking. But I was more focused and used jewelry (+10 dex amulet, +10 str ring). Here:

    [​IMG]

    Remove many levels since it's endgame and I invested in CON for armor later and into CUN to level up magic, and remove 5 or so points from str and dex just because I messed up and did some rounding up to make stats look pretty. You need 70 str for 2 handed sword and 78 dex for war bow III.
     
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  23. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    will hafta check but i think 3

    deffo didnt have a large red one
     
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  24. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    Holy shit, yeah dude, we like Elex because it’s German, right.

    Look, many of your criticisms are of stuff that just isn’t important, at least not to me (or to many others). Hating a game for its inventory system would be like deciding not to buy a car because you don’t like how the cup holders look. As for the lighting effects, it’s not like you’re going in and out of buildings that often, and someone described how to disable this further up the thread. Getting EXP for finding or killing something before you get assigned the quest to do it is stupid, but again, feels like a pretty minor problem. Capping saves at 100–who gives a fuck? Just copy your old saves to a different folder and then overwrite the originals.

    Complaining about the hitboxes... you must have really great vision because I never felt like it was that bad, and again it’s really easy to adapt to.

    I don’t want to give anyone shit for being on the autism spectrum, but these are some aspy dealbreakers. The fact that you don’t engage with any of my arguments in favor of Elex is pretty telling.

    That’s why I wondered if you’d actually played the game, because there are plenty of perfectly valid reasons why someone might dislike Elex, they’re just not the ones you cite. Others have hated the inverted difficulty curve—too hard at the beginning, too easy at the end—or the idiosyncracies of the English translation, or the endgame story, or the emptiness of Ignadon, or that the occasional need to use quest markers is immersion breaking.


    Back to the hilarious “German drones” thing:

    Given the prevalence of national socialism on this site, maybe this isn’t as crazy as it sounds... But where I grew up ze Germans were still considered ze bad guys. Other than classical composers, 19th century novelists and the occasional brilliant conductor (Furtwangler!), Deutschland isn’t exactly known for its cultural achievements (Nietzsche doesn’t count—he identified as Polish, see Ecce Homo). I guess Kraftwerk is tolerable and Nico was a good singer. Really, though, unless we’re talking about a car or a camera, “made in Germany” is more of a reason NOT to buy something.

    In other words, you cray.
     
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  25. Lambach Arcane

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    One of the things that really, really bothers me about all PB games, including Elex, is the lack of unique combat encounters. In this particular instance, you spend most of the game hunting Kallax, you constantly get to hear about what a super badass cool Elexetor he is now and how you stand no chance against him unless you grow into a total badass motherfucker yourself etc. And what happens when you finally have your 1v1 with him? He has the exact same combat style and power of the average Alb soldier mook. God fucking damn it, PB, is it really so hard to program some extra spells or special moves that only the person you spend 3/4 of the game preparing to fight can do?

    :decline:
     
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