KickStarter Elin (formerly Elin's Inn) - Dwarf Fortress-like from the creator of Elona - now available on Early Access

[Damned Registrations]

The UI is slowly growing on me. Some aspects like lack of keybindings are still awful, but if you dig into it to set up priorities and categories and such, it's very nice having all your scrolls in one bag, potions in another, emergency kit here, corpses diverted to the icebox, etc. The inconsistent functionality for the escape key is driving me nuts though. Some boxes it exits from, others it just opens the stupid options menu, which did NOT need to be a hotkey, let alone such an important one.

Game hits that 'one more thing...' button so damned hard. I've been meaning to go pick up a bunch of snow for like 6 hours and keep getting distracted by other stuff and forgetting.

 

[Sunri]

My character got fantasy cancer and grew wings cool

 

[Damned Registrations]

My character got fantasy cancer and grew wings cool

Hah, we made practically the same character, I did a dwarf instead though, but same class and god. I got hooves early, which was awesome because the speed buff massively outweighs early equipment. I later got 'potion addiction' though, which was fucking awful and I had to clear out all my cancer to get rid of it.

...Are those ecopo tickets? How did you get those? Or the 103 platinum coins for that matter. Did you just never spend them for your entire playthrough?

 

[Damned Registrations]

Behold, the power of throwing a god damned microphone at people's faces:

I gave it to my pet bell for a while but I was having trouble gaining levels because it was killing everything before I could fight it myself. Severed heads do even more damage but those are one time use, sadly.

 

[Sunri]

My character got fantasy cancer and grew wings cool

Hah, we made practically the same character, I did a dwarf instead though, but same class and god. I got hooves early, which was awesome because the speed buff massively outweighs early equipment. I later got 'potion addiction' though, which was fucking awful and I had to clear out all my cancer to get rid of it.

...Are those ecopo tickets? How did you get those? Or the 103 platinum coins for that matter. Did you just never spend them for your entire playthrough?

I got tickets from puting garbage in trashcan at my base you can easily farm coins if you do quest like music performance and monster killing and then reroll quest table for one influence.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Interesting. I tried using the combustible waste boxes but got nothing. Will try trash cans. Never occured to me to reroll quest tables, genius!

 

[Sunri]

I exchanged my claim ticket for this trashcan in some city, but getting those ecopops is not worth it, the only good thing you can but for them is Ether antibody, and you need thousands of them

 

[Damned Registrations]

Yeah I was hoping they had a better spawn rate than they did. Even doing stuff like mining out hundreds of soil or leaves would still take forever. And the seeds are handy in theory, but not really far enough ahead of base level seeds to matter. I'm still farming mushrooms to level farming anyways.

In other news, don't try wishing for a decayed weapon to see what the only anvil recipe in the game does.



Also, I've been shopping around for a new god, since I already got a relic from Opatos. Going to miss the ~60 carry capacity he was giving me. Also, the relic is kinda shit once you switch gods. I mean, it's still awesome, but it loses a LOT of it's powers. Strife god was a bust; too hard to keep the buff going and the other stats didn't mesh with my build too well. Might try again late game when those crazy fighting quests spawn that have like 50+ enemies. Trying out the trickster god now, seems promising. Gaining piety is going to be a bitch though, it's one of those gods that demands a specific weapon type as an offering. Hopefully offering value scales with item value this time. It seemed to do that for Opatos, I think. Also, trying to level martial arts. Feels weak as shit right now, but the way it scales seems promising in the long run. I was hoping to do a shield based build but the skill just won't gain levels. Maybe I'll get lucky and find some artifact boxing gloves.

Pro tip: If you find an Ehkatl altar in a dungeon, it's light enough to pick up and leave with if you've got decent strength. I've got one sitting in my base now. If you get some fishermen to join your village you could get a steady stream of offerings pretty easily.

 

[Emmanuel2]

Goddamn, Noa has hooked me in once again into a time-blackhole of a game!

I gotta say, the amount of presentation/detail in the towns is amazing and well crafted. Going to the floating airship casino for the first time was a nice experience. The comfy soul feel is prevalent and I'm loving it so much.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Do we have little sister pet here like in Elona?

 

[Damned Registrations]

Do we have little sister pet here like in Elona?

IT'S A LITTLE GIRL PET YOU CASUAL!

And yeah, you get the same 4 pet options at the start. There's also the various sister variants in the game still, and one you can pick up for the low, low price of 10,000 orens if you poke around a bit.

Trying to transition into the 15+ dungeons and I'm suffering from an infuriating lack of fireproof blankets. So many fire themed enemies, and they spam the attacks so often. Without inventory protection you just lose so much crap it's not worth fighting them. I might need to go back to having a pet bell murderize everything for me just so I can improve my gear without getting incinerated 50 times each trip.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Hey, that was my suggestion! I just put it in yesterday too. Definitely worth using that F11 button for suggestions/bug reports.

 

[Sunri]

Do we have little sister pet here like in Elona?

There is also zombie version hehe anyway a bought ceberus pet for all my monies, and he was clearing dungeons by himself and then i walked in front of him and he one shooted me too i didn't expect a friendly fire lol

 

[Damned Registrations]

I experimented with some more pets today. Drake gets fire damage on unarmed attacks, kinda neat, but almost no equipment slots. Zealot of Fire seemed promising for the heal spam, but he also summons fire hounds, and they destroy your inventory. Puppet was one of the better ones- spams various hexes at enemies. But he kinda stopped casting them in melee, which sucked. Bell still seems like the best option, 300 speed is just too bonkers. Still looking to find a pet that can heal me in combat without fucking me up. Am tempted to try a ghost or shade as well for their stat draining abilities, seems like that'd be insanely good vs elite enemies as long as you can stall. Maybe floating eye variants would be good with symbiosis actually...

 

[Sunri]

I use two companions now girl from the story dungeon that can heal and golden knight that got spawned when I prayed she heals too but slower

Legendary Hammer

 

[whydoibother]

I don't care about the game, but I saw it go from great score, to mid score, to good score, basically due to chinese raiding.
Apperantly the regional pricing was higher than chinese were used to, so they brigated the score down. Then they got a special China only discount, and the score rose, but now people who bought before the discount are downvoting it.
TFM: The First Men had a similar experience, getting brigaded for not having chinese interface language on launch (it was in the pre-release marketing materials).

Not sure if Steam reviews are reliable, given how what should be a niche group of people, the chinese, can brigade a game and reduce its global score for very local reasons that nobody else cares about.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Not sure if Steam reviews are reliable, given how what should be a niche group of people, the chinese, can brigade a game and reduce its global score for very local reasons that nobody else cares about.

Steam review has been like this for years, the point is just to read the reviews instead of only the score. E.g. not few people buy play 1 hour left negative/positive reviews due to political agenda stuff too (one that I remember recently is that roguelike made by some Pole that got bombed by liberals for not making gay marriage system but then recovered by way of anti-brigading/conservatives leaving positive reviews)

IIRC Steam now has way to filter out this kind of brigading reviews by using machine learning in one of its patch? But it still a massive issue for sure

 

[Damned Registrations]

Main things I usually check in reviews are what the negative ones are saying (complaints about difficulty or lack of handholding are a good sign, and lots of other stuff is irrelevant to me) the time played (lots of glowing reviews from people that played for ~5 hours and then never touched it again is a bad sign for an expensive game) and popular reviews with a ton of responses to them.

 

[Latro]

I usually just sort by most recently posted and then skim for highest played hours. Usually reliable and if I’m not sure I’ll check their other reviews to see if their taste matches mine.

 

[kites]

Booted it up planning to only spend 5 mins looking at options/rolling a character, and it's now hours later.. so far it perfectly tickles that "just one more turn/day" feeling for me.

 

[Inec0rn]

How complete a game is this men? does it feel finished, lack of content, bugs etc. Is it worth picking up now?

 

[Gerrard]

I don't care about the game, but I saw it go from great score, to mid score, to good score, basically due to chinese raiding.
Apperantly the regional pricing was higher than chinese were used to, so they brigated the score down. Then they got a special China only discount, and the score rose, but now people who bought before the discount are downvoting it.
TFM: The First Men had a similar experience, getting brigaded for not having chinese interface language on launch (it was in the pre-release marketing materials).

Not sure if Steam reviews are reliable, given how what should be a niche group of people, the chinese, can brigade a game and reduce its global score for very local reasons that nobody else cares about.

Just make your game not available in bugland, problem solved.

 

[Damned Registrations]

How complete a game is this men? does it feel finished, lack of content, bugs etc. Is it worth picking up now?

It's definitely unfinished. For what it's worth, I sunk at least 40 hours into it before I decided to put it down and wait for it to get fleshed out a bit more. I picked it up partly just because the developer made Elona, and I sunk way more time into that, and it was free. Dude deserves every cent he gets out of this.

It seems to have something of a storyline, not sure if that part is finished, it's not really what I was focused on. It's got a lot of content, but it's like swiss cheese right now; there are places where quests should be that haven't been implemented yet, crafting skills that aren't useful yet, stuff like that. Whether it's worth picking up or not will depend a lot on what you want out of it. It's being updated daily right now, so waiting is probably the smart choice regardless, but if you enjoy aimless dungeon crawling and collecting treasure and getting stronger, you might have an awesome time with it already.

 

[Mortmal]

Not sure if Steam reviews are reliable, given how what should be a niche group of people, the chinese, can brigade a game and reduce its global score for very local reasons that nobody else cares about.

Steam review has been like this for years, the point is just to read the reviews instead of only the score. E.g. not few people buy play 1 hour left negative/positive reviews due to political agenda stuff too (one that I remember recently is that roguelike made by some Pole that got bombed by liberals for not making gay marriage system but then recovered by way of anti-brigading/conservatives leaving positive reviews)

IIRC Steam now has way to filter out this kind of brigading reviews by using machine learning in one of its patch? But it still a massive issue for sure

This is a case of undeserved review bombing. The game is very good—probably even better than Elona. It’s hard and unforgiving, which is a good thing, but I wouldn’t recommend doing an Iron Man run.

There is indeed content missing: a ton of features, areas are closed off, and the storyline doesn’t go very far—but it does exist. The base creation system is quite limited right now, and the difficulty makes it hard to justify spending resources on furniture or making the base look pretty, as everything is very expensive. As a mage, you need to buy books frequently, which adds to the challenge.

That said, the game is highly addictive. For €20, I’ve already spent 50 hours playing it. It’s possible to grind dungeons endlessly, and the core systems are already in place.

 

[kites]

Might be a coincidence, but something I sent with the in-game feedback tool recently got implemented. Nice to see and I hope more people use it. There's a solid base to build on here, and the people waiting for a more fleshed-out experience will be very happy in 1-3+ years.